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Middle East/All : Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

 

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oldtriguy1960
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09 Jan 2024
07:15:02am
All,

My Scott 2011 lists this stamp (along with C53-C64) as perf 13 x 13 1/2.
I have one copy of C59 and it is perf 13 1/2 x 13/12.
I checked the C56 I have and it is 13 x 13 1/2 as stated in the Scott catalog.

Does anyone know of a perf variety for the C59?
Anyone with C59s could you check yours and tell what the perfs are on yours?

Thanks!

David N.
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rrraphy
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09 Jan 2024
12:21:27pm
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

My C59 is 13.5x13.5
I checked several in the series (C 39--> and o/p following) and they were 13.5x13.5
None I checked were 13x13.5
rrr...

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oldtriguy1960
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09 Jan 2024
07:49:58pm
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Thanks rrr!
That's the kind of input I'm looking for.
Any others?

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nigelc
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10 Jan 2024
08:47:36am
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Hi oldtriguy,

I was intrigued by this and checked the top perfs of my stamps with this design.

I have 33 of these stamps (22 from the original set, 5 with the overprint, 6 with the overprint and bars) and they are all perf 13½ at the top.

These include 2 of the original 20 mills stamps and just one 20 mills stamp with the overprint.

For what it's worth, I notice that the SG catalogue lists these stamps as perf 13½, i.e. 13½ on all sides.

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10 Jan 2024
11:10:31am
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Michel also lists these stamps as perf 13.5.

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rrraphy
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10 Jan 2024
01:44:47pm
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

I checked some more of my stamps and they are ALL 13.5
rrr...

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Betyar68

10 Jan 2024
05:02:54pm
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Checked my set at 13-1/2 also

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11 Jan 2024
10:49:04pm
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Thanks for all the input!
I'm going to assume an error in the Scott catalog.
Next question would be if anyone has a current 2023 edition of Scott to see if it has been corrected since my old 2011 edition? And if not, steps to contact the Scott editors to ask them to look into it?

Oldtriguy1960

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smauggie
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12 Jan 2024
05:12:37am
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

In my limited experience Scott is more likely to have not bothered with a separate per listing for one stamp in a set than made an error.

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Terry
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12 Jan 2024
12:28:23pm
re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Of further interest may be that the final edition of The World Airmail Catalog by Sanabria (1972) lists the 1947 Egyptian set as perforated 13¼ x 13½. So, I checked my set again with my clear Unitrade "perfect gauge" (graduated in 1/10ths). And, to my surprise, I found that they do, in fact, measure 13¼ x 13½. I suspect that Scott's 'rounding' of perforation measures would consider anything from 12.8 to 13.3 to be "13".

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oldtriguy1960

09 Jan 2024
07:15:02am

All,

My Scott 2011 lists this stamp (along with C53-C64) as perf 13 x 13 1/2.
I have one copy of C59 and it is perf 13 1/2 x 13/12.
I checked the C56 I have and it is 13 x 13 1/2 as stated in the Scott catalog.

Does anyone know of a perf variety for the C59?
Anyone with C59s could you check yours and tell what the perfs are on yours?

Thanks!

David N.

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rrraphy

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09 Jan 2024
12:21:27pm

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

My C59 is 13.5x13.5
I checked several in the series (C 39--> and o/p following) and they were 13.5x13.5
None I checked were 13x13.5
rrr...

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09 Jan 2024
07:49:58pm

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Thanks rrr!
That's the kind of input I'm looking for.
Any others?

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nigelc

10 Jan 2024
08:47:36am

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Hi oldtriguy,

I was intrigued by this and checked the top perfs of my stamps with this design.

I have 33 of these stamps (22 from the original set, 5 with the overprint, 6 with the overprint and bars) and they are all perf 13½ at the top.

These include 2 of the original 20 mills stamps and just one 20 mills stamp with the overprint.

For what it's worth, I notice that the SG catalogue lists these stamps as perf 13½, i.e. 13½ on all sides.

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10 Jan 2024
11:10:31am

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Michel also lists these stamps as perf 13.5.

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10 Jan 2024
01:44:47pm

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

I checked some more of my stamps and they are ALL 13.5
rrr...

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Betyar68

10 Jan 2024
05:02:54pm

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Checked my set at 13-1/2 also

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oldtriguy1960

11 Jan 2024
10:49:04pm

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Thanks for all the input!
I'm going to assume an error in the Scott catalog.
Next question would be if anyone has a current 2023 edition of Scott to see if it has been corrected since my old 2011 edition? And if not, steps to contact the Scott editors to ask them to look into it?

Oldtriguy1960

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smauggie

12 Jan 2024
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re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

In my limited experience Scott is more likely to have not bothered with a separate per listing for one stamp in a set than made an error.

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Terry

12 Jan 2024
12:28:23pm

re: Egypt Scott # C59 1952 20m w/overprint perfs question

Of further interest may be that the final edition of The World Airmail Catalog by Sanabria (1972) lists the 1947 Egyptian set as perforated 13¼ x 13½. So, I checked my set again with my clear Unitrade "perfect gauge" (graduated in 1/10ths). And, to my surprise, I found that they do, in fact, measure 13¼ x 13½. I suspect that Scott's 'rounding' of perforation measures would consider anything from 12.8 to 13.3 to be "13".

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