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Europe/Germany : German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

 

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BWSchulz

07 Dec 2023
02:02:12pm
I have many of these. Is there any way to date them to the years of use? Obviously the usage of the Prussian seals would end early in the Weimar Republic. But the others like the city court and municipal government seals are impossible to date, at least for me. Can you help?

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08 Dec 2023
10:57:04am
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

It is almost impossible to read the seals you posted here.

I found one :

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Koen. Preuss. Amtsgericht Tennstedt

Original sealing stamp made of paper which was used by authorities, companies and also individuals to seal letters from around 1850 to 1945. This mark is also called a seal mark. These stamps are usually broken when the letters are torn open and are now rarely found.

If you want to date them........ well ........ good luck......
You have to type the description into the google searchbar and hope to find something.

I do not know anybody who did that before.
Maybe if it is a military unit.

I only know a link on the internet that shows 30000 seals and you can buy them if you want.
Have a look at :

https://shop.veikkos.com/de/siegelmarken ...

At the top of the page you can switch from the german to the english language.


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08 Dec 2023
01:45:08pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Found another one :

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Siegelmarke Königl. Universitäts Psychiatrische u. Nervenklinik Halle a. S. - Psychiatrie


Vor 200 Jahren wurde die Psychiatrie als Wissenschaft durch den berühmten Arzt Johann Christian Reil in Halle gegründet.
Psychiatry was founded as a science 200 years ago by the famous doctor Johann Christian Reil in Halle.

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08 Dec 2023
02:12:52pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

And another one :

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Siegelmarke Magistrat der Königlichen Haupt- u. Residenzstadt Hannover
Magistrate of the royal capital and residential city of Hanover

Magistrates, also known as Justices of the Peace, are individuals from all walks of life who are passionate about making a difference in their local communities. They volunteer for at least 13 days a year, plus training, to hear a variety of cases in our courts. Magistrates sit in the Magistrates’ courts, dealing with criminal and civil proceedings, or the Family Court, or both. The role is unpaid and many magistrates are employed alongside their role.



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08 Dec 2023
02:25:51pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

And another one :

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Seal mark vignette SIGILLUM CIVITATIS HALBERSTADIENSIS

Do not know who used this seal. and I can not read LATIN

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08 Dec 2023
02:30:52pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

For some military seals look at an earlier post of mine

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...

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08 Dec 2023
07:16:16pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

My picture shows an Austro-Hungarian example from the consulate in Chania on Crete.

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09 Dec 2023
05:05:14am
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

NigelC I am a little confused, you wrote :

"My picture shows an Austro-Hungarian example from the consulate in Chania on Crete. "


But I can not find the picture you are talking about.
Forgot to include a picture in your message?


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09 Dec 2023
05:10:22am
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hello BWSchulz I found another seal of your picture.


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Stadt Dusseldorf

The seal in your picture looks like orange but this one is red.

Do not know who used this seal.

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
07:10:48am
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

SIGILLUM CIVITATIS HALBERSTADIENSIS is Latin for "Seal of the City of Halberstadt."

"Stadt Düsseldorf" is "City of Düsseldorf."

Some are dateable by finding them still on cover. This example was used in place of a postage stamp. It's franked with the Royal Post Office Official Seal and was sent from Schmalkalden, Prussia, to Leipzig, May 6, 1876.

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
07:16:39am
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09 Dec 2023
09:05:31am
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hello HocketNut,

"NigelC I am a little confused, you wrote :

"My picture shows an Austro-Hungarian example from the consulate in Chania on Crete. "

But I can not find the picture you are talking about.
Forgot to include a picture in your message?"



I was referring to my avatar picture which I've used here for several years. Please look to the left. Happy

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
05:09:36pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Another seal dateable by usage. This is the Official Seal of the Prussian Land Survey - Topographical Office used in place of a stamp on a postal card sent in 1896.

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
05:10:19pm
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09 Dec 2023
09:22:50pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hello BWShultz,

It's interesting to see the old spelling of Abteilung.

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BWSchulz

12 Dec 2023
08:51:17pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

This is from the Historic Monuments Office in Berlin to Munich. 1901.
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BWSchulz

12 Dec 2023
08:55:57pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

This is the recipient, Ludwig Traube's wickedpedia biography:

Traube was born in Berlin, the son of a middle-class Jewish family, and studied at the universities of Munich and Greifswald. In 1883 he finished his Ph.D. with a dissertation entitled Varia libamenta critica. He finished his habilitation in classical and medieval philology in 1888 with a part of his book on Carolingian poetry (Karolingische Dichtungen).

In 1897 he became a member of the central management of Monumenta Germaniae Historica. In 1902 he was appointed professor of Latin philology of the Middle Ages at Munich. In 1905 he discovered that he had leukemia, dying from it two years later.

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15 Dec 2023
12:29:47pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

And now.................

From far far away.....

DEUTSCH OST AFRIKA


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BWSchulz

15 Dec 2023
02:18:57pm
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hockey,

You've made me jealous.

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16 Dec 2023
07:33:14am
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Because they are so beautiful, two more.
But please note, these are not mine.

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Deutsches Auslandspostanweisung Schanghai
German foreign postal order Schanghai
(If you want this one you have to pay 2700 euros)

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Militärpoststelle Swakopmund und drei blauen Siegelmarken des Postamts Swakopmund Sud West Afrika
Swakopmund military post office and three blue seal stamps from the Swakopmund Sud West Africa post office.

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16 Dec 2023
07:57:05am
re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Well, one more then.

This one is not mine either


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Kaiserliche eisenbahn station Winkhoek Sud West Afrika
Imperial railway station Winkhoek Sud West Africa

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BWSchulz

07 Dec 2023
02:02:12pm

I have many of these. Is there any way to date them to the years of use? Obviously the usage of the Prussian seals would end early in the Weimar Republic. But the others like the city court and municipal government seals are impossible to date, at least for me. Can you help?

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HockeyNut

08 Dec 2023
10:57:04am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

It is almost impossible to read the seals you posted here.

I found one :

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Koen. Preuss. Amtsgericht Tennstedt

Original sealing stamp made of paper which was used by authorities, companies and also individuals to seal letters from around 1850 to 1945. This mark is also called a seal mark. These stamps are usually broken when the letters are torn open and are now rarely found.

If you want to date them........ well ........ good luck......
You have to type the description into the google searchbar and hope to find something.

I do not know anybody who did that before.
Maybe if it is a military unit.

I only know a link on the internet that shows 30000 seals and you can buy them if you want.
Have a look at :

https://shop.veikkos.com/de/siegelmarken ...

At the top of the page you can switch from the german to the english language.


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HockeyNut

08 Dec 2023
01:45:08pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Found another one :

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Siegelmarke Königl. Universitäts Psychiatrische u. Nervenklinik Halle a. S. - Psychiatrie


Vor 200 Jahren wurde die Psychiatrie als Wissenschaft durch den berühmten Arzt Johann Christian Reil in Halle gegründet.
Psychiatry was founded as a science 200 years ago by the famous doctor Johann Christian Reil in Halle.

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HockeyNut

08 Dec 2023
02:12:52pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

And another one :

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Siegelmarke Magistrat der Königlichen Haupt- u. Residenzstadt Hannover
Magistrate of the royal capital and residential city of Hanover

Magistrates, also known as Justices of the Peace, are individuals from all walks of life who are passionate about making a difference in their local communities. They volunteer for at least 13 days a year, plus training, to hear a variety of cases in our courts. Magistrates sit in the Magistrates’ courts, dealing with criminal and civil proceedings, or the Family Court, or both. The role is unpaid and many magistrates are employed alongside their role.



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HockeyNut

08 Dec 2023
02:25:51pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

And another one :

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Seal mark vignette SIGILLUM CIVITATIS HALBERSTADIENSIS

Do not know who used this seal. and I can not read LATIN

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HockeyNut

08 Dec 2023
02:30:52pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

For some military seals look at an earlier post of mine

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...

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nigelc

08 Dec 2023
07:16:16pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

My picture shows an Austro-Hungarian example from the consulate in Chania on Crete.

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HockeyNut

09 Dec 2023
05:05:14am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

NigelC I am a little confused, you wrote :

"My picture shows an Austro-Hungarian example from the consulate in Chania on Crete. "


But I can not find the picture you are talking about.
Forgot to include a picture in your message?


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HockeyNut

09 Dec 2023
05:10:22am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hello BWSchulz I found another seal of your picture.


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Stadt Dusseldorf

The seal in your picture looks like orange but this one is red.

Do not know who used this seal.

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
07:10:48am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

SIGILLUM CIVITATIS HALBERSTADIENSIS is Latin for "Seal of the City of Halberstadt."

"Stadt Düsseldorf" is "City of Düsseldorf."

Some are dateable by finding them still on cover. This example was used in place of a postage stamp. It's franked with the Royal Post Office Official Seal and was sent from Schmalkalden, Prussia, to Leipzig, May 6, 1876.

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
07:16:39am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

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nigelc

09 Dec 2023
09:05:31am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hello HocketNut,

"NigelC I am a little confused, you wrote :

"My picture shows an Austro-Hungarian example from the consulate in Chania on Crete. "

But I can not find the picture you are talking about.
Forgot to include a picture in your message?"



I was referring to my avatar picture which I've used here for several years. Please look to the left. Happy

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
05:09:36pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Another seal dateable by usage. This is the Official Seal of the Prussian Land Survey - Topographical Office used in place of a stamp on a postal card sent in 1896.

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BWSchulz

09 Dec 2023
05:10:19pm

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nigelc

09 Dec 2023
09:22:50pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hello BWShultz,

It's interesting to see the old spelling of Abteilung.

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BWSchulz

12 Dec 2023
08:51:17pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

This is from the Historic Monuments Office in Berlin to Munich. 1901.
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BWSchulz

12 Dec 2023
08:55:57pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

This is the recipient, Ludwig Traube's wickedpedia biography:

Traube was born in Berlin, the son of a middle-class Jewish family, and studied at the universities of Munich and Greifswald. In 1883 he finished his Ph.D. with a dissertation entitled Varia libamenta critica. He finished his habilitation in classical and medieval philology in 1888 with a part of his book on Carolingian poetry (Karolingische Dichtungen).

In 1897 he became a member of the central management of Monumenta Germaniae Historica. In 1902 he was appointed professor of Latin philology of the Middle Ages at Munich. In 1905 he discovered that he had leukemia, dying from it two years later.

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HockeyNut

15 Dec 2023
12:29:47pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

And now.................

From far far away.....

DEUTSCH OST AFRIKA


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BWSchulz

15 Dec 2023
02:18:57pm

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Hockey,

You've made me jealous.

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HockeyNut

16 Dec 2023
07:33:14am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Because they are so beautiful, two more.
But please note, these are not mine.

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Deutsches Auslandspostanweisung Schanghai
German foreign postal order Schanghai
(If you want this one you have to pay 2700 euros)

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Militärpoststelle Swakopmund und drei blauen Siegelmarken des Postamts Swakopmund Sud West Afrika
Swakopmund military post office and three blue seal stamps from the Swakopmund Sud West Africa post office.

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HockeyNut

16 Dec 2023
07:57:05am

re: German Empire and Weimar Envelope Seals

Well, one more then.

This one is not mine either


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Kaiserliche eisenbahn station Winkhoek Sud West Afrika
Imperial railway station Winkhoek Sud West Africa

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