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BWSchulz

24 Oct 2023
03:37:12pm
I have a few German stamp dealer covers from before 1940. Here is an example. This is an Registered Air Mail cover from Herman E. Sieger to a Willy Wolfrum, a resident of Freiburg in Breisgau. I can locate the Wolfrum family living there because some were well known scientists, but I cannot find a short biography for Willy/Wilhelm. The 'stains' are scanner shadows crated because of the high quality paper which resembles parchment.

To me the interesting bit is the reverse side. It's sealed with Sieger's specially designed label and that is 'cancelled' with two fake cancellations which advertise the Seiger company. Enjoy. Comments welcome.Image Not Found

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12 Nov 2023
08:08:35am
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Here a story about that man (From Wikipedia).

Politician for the NSDAP in Lorch

Hermann Ernst Sieger was a founding member of the Lorcher NSDAP local group in 1932.
At the first local council meeting after the Gleichschaltung in 1933, the Sieger city council requested that central streets and squares in the city of Lorch be renamed after National Socialist personalities and Reich President Hindenburg, who had made the NSDAP dictatorship possible.
In addition, ruthless action against dissidents and the political opposition was announced.
In 1935, Sieger was appointed the mayor's first deputy.
From 1937 to 1945 he was the local group leader of the Lorcher NSDAP.
He also worked as deputy to the district leader, as district economic advisor, district technical advisor for municipal affairs, senior section leader of the NSDAP and as honorary consul for Paraguay.
As was usual during the National Socialist era - and in Sieger's specific case proven by contemporary witnesses and sources - the local group leader was in fact above the mayor and gave him instructions and orders.
Since Sieger did not hold back with his authority, the mayor of Lorch at the time, Wilhelm Scheufele, referred to him as the “little dictator of Lorch”.
At his instigation, political opponents and people who were hostile to Sieger for personal reasons were excluded in Lorch, threatened, subjected to violence, imprisoned in concentration camps and placed on death lists.
Sieger was a convinced anti-Semite and consistently excluded Jewish traders from Lorch business life.
Under Sieger, at least four Lorch women were forcibly sterilized and at least three disabled people - including an 11-year-old girl - were transported to the Grafeneck killing center as part of Operation T4 and murdered there by gassing.

When US soldiers invaded Lorch on April 19, 1945, Sieger fled the city with his family.
At the instigation of Josef Hoop, he briefly received refuge in Liechtenstein, and was then interned in Ludwigsburg from 1945 to 1948.
In the course of denazification, Sieger was classified as a Nazi follower - not least because of Hoop's statement exonerating him.

Philatelic activities
On December 16, 1922, at the age of 20, Sieger founded his company of the same name in Lorch.
In the same year he donated the winner's prize named after him.
In 1930, Sieger first published its Zeppelin postal catalog, the so-called “Sieger Catalog”.
He was also a philatelic advisor to Zeppelin AG and headed the Reich organization of the German stamp trade during the Nazi era.

In 1954 his son Hermann Walter Sieger (1928–2019) took over the company.
In 1975, his grandson Günter Hermann Sieger joined the company and now runs it.


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BWSchulz

21 Nov 2023
05:16:08am
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Here is another Stamp Dealer cover. Sender was Hermann Tober, fairly well-known in America through advertising in the philatelic press. Recipient was E. Tillaman, a stamp dealer living in Osanbruck, Lower Saxony. It was registered-signature required. The denomination is shifted to the left.

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21 Nov 2023
07:53:03am
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This is one of my favorites, shows signs of wear but fits just fine in my collection.
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21 Nov 2023
01:29:23pm
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Lovely cover. And the flag cancellation is stellar.

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Tom in Exton, PA

21 Nov 2023
09:48:51pm
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When ever pioneer stamp dealers are mentioned, I always think of Hiram Deats. Everyone has seen one of these covers as they've gone through old cover boxes!

He came from a wealthy family and his father died young, leaving him a fortune. He then proceeded to build the best collection of US revenue stamps. He was a stamp dealer, and also started a regional NJ newspaper.

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I like the "Philatelic Expert" and use of interesting stamps. The one on the right is a Shermack private perf

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22 Nov 2023
10:36:59pm
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Okay, I will jump in here with a few of my own;


1912

This one appears to be sent TO a stamp dealer....why they put a battleship revenue on it - who knows.
Looks like the used revenue was added AFTER the cancel was applied.
I can't quite make out the sender's return address info - maybe someone here can;

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1924
This one looks like the delivery address was changed/modified/updated?

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1923
This last one also has something imprinted on the reverse as well;



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23 Nov 2023
10:33:31am
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The return address on the first cover looks like
Charlotte NC
902 N Poplar St

First name could be Fritz
nothing close in the 1910 and 1920 census at that address

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23 Nov 2023
11:26:55am
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I have some dealer covers here is one from 1936 L.A. to Newfoundland.Image Not Found

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24 Nov 2023
11:26:41am
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@musicman

"why they put a battleship revenue on it - who knows.
Looks like the used revenue was added AFTER the cancel was applied."


I have seen that many times in old accumulations. The used envelope may have been used to store multiple duplicates of that particular revenue issue. Cheaper than buying another envelope for storage.

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14 Dec 2023
11:03:23am
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A stamp dealer unknown to me, but I bought this cover for the illustration of mint sheet protectors.

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Tom in Exton, PA

14 Dec 2023
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Here's one from Elmer Long to A. Atlas Leve, both noted philatelists and dealers back in the 1930s.

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15 Dec 2023
09:52:11am
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Hey Tom!

Just discovered I had this one in some miscellaneous covers;



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A good mate to the one you have - if you want it, just say the word and I'll send it off to ya.







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Tom in Exton, PA

15 Dec 2023
09:55:43am
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Thanks for the offer Randy! I do have that one somewhere in my hoard!

BTW, I sent you something!

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15 Dec 2023
09:57:17am
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Does it have the same precancel?

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15 Dec 2023
09:59:37am
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I'd have to dig, but I remember it being a precancel.

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15 Dec 2023
10:05:28am
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no need - just my curious mind!

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15 Dec 2023
11:21:58am
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Anyone recognize the name of the sender? Big Grin


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15 Dec 2023
11:24:36am
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Another Elmer Long cover. Long's covers are among my favorites. He used the art work of John Coulthard to illustrate many of his covers along with his ads in Stamps Magazine, and his annual Collector's Handbook, which was a price list for stamps and collecting supplies. John Coulthard was a commercial artist from Modesto, California, who did the art for many cachets and pieces of philatelic ephemera in the 1930s and 1940s.

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The "Happy Mailman" corner card. The spotted dog was John Coulthard's signature figure.
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An example of the Collector's Handbook that Long mailed in the cover above.
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15 Dec 2023
12:23:52pm
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Aside from being a great Herst cover, I also recognize the addressee. The addressee, Gordon Morison, was a USPS excutive employee, collector, and active in organized philately. Here is a link to Morison's obituary:


https://www.linns.com/news/us-stamps-pos ...



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15 Dec 2023
12:37:01pm
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DonSellos,

Many thanks for the information on Gordon Morison. I did a brief search for the name, but came up empty. Makes the cover that much more interesting. At least for me.

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BWSchulz

24 Oct 2023
03:37:12pm

I have a few German stamp dealer covers from before 1940. Here is an example. This is an Registered Air Mail cover from Herman E. Sieger to a Willy Wolfrum, a resident of Freiburg in Breisgau. I can locate the Wolfrum family living there because some were well known scientists, but I cannot find a short biography for Willy/Wilhelm. The 'stains' are scanner shadows crated because of the high quality paper which resembles parchment.

To me the interesting bit is the reverse side. It's sealed with Sieger's specially designed label and that is 'cancelled' with two fake cancellations which advertise the Seiger company. Enjoy. Comments welcome.Image Not Found

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12 Nov 2023
08:08:35am

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Here a story about that man (From Wikipedia).

Politician for the NSDAP in Lorch

Hermann Ernst Sieger was a founding member of the Lorcher NSDAP local group in 1932.
At the first local council meeting after the Gleichschaltung in 1933, the Sieger city council requested that central streets and squares in the city of Lorch be renamed after National Socialist personalities and Reich President Hindenburg, who had made the NSDAP dictatorship possible.
In addition, ruthless action against dissidents and the political opposition was announced.
In 1935, Sieger was appointed the mayor's first deputy.
From 1937 to 1945 he was the local group leader of the Lorcher NSDAP.
He also worked as deputy to the district leader, as district economic advisor, district technical advisor for municipal affairs, senior section leader of the NSDAP and as honorary consul for Paraguay.
As was usual during the National Socialist era - and in Sieger's specific case proven by contemporary witnesses and sources - the local group leader was in fact above the mayor and gave him instructions and orders.
Since Sieger did not hold back with his authority, the mayor of Lorch at the time, Wilhelm Scheufele, referred to him as the “little dictator of Lorch”.
At his instigation, political opponents and people who were hostile to Sieger for personal reasons were excluded in Lorch, threatened, subjected to violence, imprisoned in concentration camps and placed on death lists.
Sieger was a convinced anti-Semite and consistently excluded Jewish traders from Lorch business life.
Under Sieger, at least four Lorch women were forcibly sterilized and at least three disabled people - including an 11-year-old girl - were transported to the Grafeneck killing center as part of Operation T4 and murdered there by gassing.

When US soldiers invaded Lorch on April 19, 1945, Sieger fled the city with his family.
At the instigation of Josef Hoop, he briefly received refuge in Liechtenstein, and was then interned in Ludwigsburg from 1945 to 1948.
In the course of denazification, Sieger was classified as a Nazi follower - not least because of Hoop's statement exonerating him.

Philatelic activities
On December 16, 1922, at the age of 20, Sieger founded his company of the same name in Lorch.
In the same year he donated the winner's prize named after him.
In 1930, Sieger first published its Zeppelin postal catalog, the so-called “Sieger Catalog”.
He was also a philatelic advisor to Zeppelin AG and headed the Reich organization of the German stamp trade during the Nazi era.

In 1954 his son Hermann Walter Sieger (1928–2019) took over the company.
In 1975, his grandson Günter Hermann Sieger joined the company and now runs it.


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BWSchulz

21 Nov 2023
05:16:08am

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Here is another Stamp Dealer cover. Sender was Hermann Tober, fairly well-known in America through advertising in the philatelic press. Recipient was E. Tillaman, a stamp dealer living in Osanbruck, Lower Saxony. It was registered-signature required. The denomination is shifted to the left.

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21 Nov 2023
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This is one of my favorites, shows signs of wear but fits just fine in my collection.
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21 Nov 2023
01:29:23pm

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Lovely cover. And the flag cancellation is stellar.

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Tom in Exton, PA
21 Nov 2023
09:48:51pm

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When ever pioneer stamp dealers are mentioned, I always think of Hiram Deats. Everyone has seen one of these covers as they've gone through old cover boxes!

He came from a wealthy family and his father died young, leaving him a fortune. He then proceeded to build the best collection of US revenue stamps. He was a stamp dealer, and also started a regional NJ newspaper.

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Cover Craft Cachets of Paterson, NJ

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I like the "Philatelic Expert" and use of interesting stamps. The one on the right is a Shermack private perf

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22 Nov 2023
10:36:59pm

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Okay, I will jump in here with a few of my own;


1912

This one appears to be sent TO a stamp dealer....why they put a battleship revenue on it - who knows.
Looks like the used revenue was added AFTER the cancel was applied.
I can't quite make out the sender's return address info - maybe someone here can;

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1924
This one looks like the delivery address was changed/modified/updated?

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1923
This last one also has something imprinted on the reverse as well;



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23 Nov 2023
10:33:31am

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The return address on the first cover looks like
Charlotte NC
902 N Poplar St

First name could be Fritz
nothing close in the 1910 and 1920 census at that address

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23 Nov 2023
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I have some dealer covers here is one from 1936 L.A. to Newfoundland.Image Not Found

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@musicman

"why they put a battleship revenue on it - who knows.
Looks like the used revenue was added AFTER the cancel was applied."


I have seen that many times in old accumulations. The used envelope may have been used to store multiple duplicates of that particular revenue issue. Cheaper than buying another envelope for storage.

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14 Dec 2023
11:03:23am

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A stamp dealer unknown to me, but I bought this cover for the illustration of mint sheet protectors.

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Tom in Exton, PA
14 Dec 2023
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Here's one from Elmer Long to A. Atlas Leve, both noted philatelists and dealers back in the 1930s.

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15 Dec 2023
09:52:11am

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Hey Tom!

Just discovered I had this one in some miscellaneous covers;



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A good mate to the one you have - if you want it, just say the word and I'll send it off to ya.







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15 Dec 2023
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Thanks for the offer Randy! I do have that one somewhere in my hoard!

BTW, I sent you something!

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15 Dec 2023
09:57:17am

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Does it have the same precancel?

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15 Dec 2023
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I'd have to dig, but I remember it being a precancel.

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15 Dec 2023
10:05:28am

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no need - just my curious mind!

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15 Dec 2023
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Anyone recognize the name of the sender? Big Grin


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15 Dec 2023
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Another Elmer Long cover. Long's covers are among my favorites. He used the art work of John Coulthard to illustrate many of his covers along with his ads in Stamps Magazine, and his annual Collector's Handbook, which was a price list for stamps and collecting supplies. John Coulthard was a commercial artist from Modesto, California, who did the art for many cachets and pieces of philatelic ephemera in the 1930s and 1940s.

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The "Happy Mailman" corner card. The spotted dog was John Coulthard's signature figure.
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An example of the Collector's Handbook that Long mailed in the cover above.
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15 Dec 2023
12:23:52pm

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Aside from being a great Herst cover, I also recognize the addressee. The addressee, Gordon Morison, was a USPS excutive employee, collector, and active in organized philately. Here is a link to Morison's obituary:


https://www.linns.com/news/us-stamps-pos ...



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DonSellos,

Many thanks for the information on Gordon Morison. I did a brief search for the name, but came up empty. Makes the cover that much more interesting. At least for me.

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