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United States/BOB & Other : what does cancelled signify?

 

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Harvey
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08 Oct 2023
08:31:44am
I know this was explained before but I'll ask the question anyway! I bought this lot for $7 on ebay because I was missing 7 of them! A couple say "cancelled" and I forget exactly what that means! Could someone re-explain it to me?
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EDIT: I have really cut down on E-Bay buying because of their "Global Shipping" or whatever they call it. The shipping for this was $3, which is very low. I saw a post card this morning with a post mark I wanted but with a shipping price of $21, no way!! I used to contact the seller but I don't bother any more.
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08 Oct 2023
11:45:33am
re: what does cancelled signify?

It doesn't mean anything specific other than the stamp was used. A handstamp is less work than putting a manuscript cancel on the stamp. These are more desirable than cut cancels.

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08 Oct 2023
12:10:08pm
re: what does cancelled signify?

"It doesn't mean anything specific other than the stamp was used. "


That would have been my guess but I could have sworn that someone in a much earlier post mentioned some other meaning.
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08 Oct 2023
05:40:47pm
re: what does cancelled signify?

Cancelled only means some postal employee at some point did something to the stamp to render it used, much like what Antonio just said.

However, it CAN mean a whole volume of things.

I know little about revenues and their cancels.

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08 Oct 2023
06:26:02pm
re: what does cancelled signify?

I think Harvey is asking about the literal word "Cancelled" being stamped as a cancellation on the revenue stamps, as in the bottom row of his picture. I'm curious to the answer myself. Were postal employees involved in cancelling revenue stamps?

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08 Oct 2023
07:10:22pm
re: what does cancelled signify?

"I think Harvey is asking about the literal word "Cancelled" being stamped as a cancellation on the revenue stamps, as in the bottom row of his picture."


That's exactly what I mean. Two of the stamps actually have "cancelled" on the stamps. I thought this had a specific meaning. It was mentioned once in a discussion string but I can't remember what was said!
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08 Oct 2023
07:28:20pm
re: what does cancelled signify?

The post office had nothing to do with revenue stamps. There are some postage stamps (I think in the British Commonwealth) that are overprinted with "cancelled" that means they were excess stamps to be gotten rid of, but that does not apply with US revenue stamps.

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08 Oct 2023
11:29:10pm
re: what does cancelled signify?

These stamps at one time was on an instrument, then were soaked off, if you could have seen them while still on the instrument, then the marking would make more sense then off the instrument. Quite a few revenues as such have "Cancelled" on them.

My question is I do not remember seeing "cancelled" on the RB series Revenues? Anyone have an example of an RB stamp with "cancelled" on it?

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09 Oct 2023
05:56:49am
re: what does cancelled signify?

Unlike postage stamps, revenue cancels are much more varied but still performed a similar service; marking the stamp so it cannot be reused and as a fee being charged. There were US regulations that required cancellations be used in case there was any question the tax had been paid.

The straight line ‘Cancelled’ (early example shown below) is fairly generic and can be found on a number of different sources (i.e. not from a single company) over the years.

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The diversity of different US revenue cancels use over the years is astounding and offer many collecting opportunities. This diversity is largely due to the fact the US government did not supply revenue stamp cancellers to businesses, they were required to procure their own. At the time right after the Civil War, there were a number of companies which sprung up offering various hand cancellers. Small companies (or those which had not yet received their cancellers) could choose to use manuscript cancels. Obviously, manuscript cancelling was more time consuming and less efficient than hand stamping of using other more automated cancellers.
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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
08 Oct 2023
08:31:44am

I know this was explained before but I'll ask the question anyway! I bought this lot for $7 on ebay because I was missing 7 of them! A couple say "cancelled" and I forget exactly what that means! Could someone re-explain it to me?
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EDIT: I have really cut down on E-Bay buying because of their "Global Shipping" or whatever they call it. The shipping for this was $3, which is very low. I saw a post card this morning with a post mark I wanted but with a shipping price of $21, no way!! I used to contact the seller but I don't bother any more.

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08 Oct 2023
11:45:33am

re: what does cancelled signify?

It doesn't mean anything specific other than the stamp was used. A handstamp is less work than putting a manuscript cancel on the stamp. These are more desirable than cut cancels.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
08 Oct 2023
12:10:08pm

re: what does cancelled signify?

"It doesn't mean anything specific other than the stamp was used. "


That would have been my guess but I could have sworn that someone in a much earlier post mentioned some other meaning.
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08 Oct 2023
05:40:47pm

re: what does cancelled signify?

Cancelled only means some postal employee at some point did something to the stamp to render it used, much like what Antonio just said.

However, it CAN mean a whole volume of things.

I know little about revenues and their cancels.

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joshtanski

08 Oct 2023
06:26:02pm

re: what does cancelled signify?

I think Harvey is asking about the literal word "Cancelled" being stamped as a cancellation on the revenue stamps, as in the bottom row of his picture. I'm curious to the answer myself. Were postal employees involved in cancelling revenue stamps?

Josh

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08 Oct 2023
07:10:22pm

re: what does cancelled signify?

"I think Harvey is asking about the literal word "Cancelled" being stamped as a cancellation on the revenue stamps, as in the bottom row of his picture."


That's exactly what I mean. Two of the stamps actually have "cancelled" on the stamps. I thought this had a specific meaning. It was mentioned once in a discussion string but I can't remember what was said!
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08 Oct 2023
07:28:20pm

re: what does cancelled signify?

The post office had nothing to do with revenue stamps. There are some postage stamps (I think in the British Commonwealth) that are overprinted with "cancelled" that means they were excess stamps to be gotten rid of, but that does not apply with US revenue stamps.

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08 Oct 2023
11:29:10pm

re: what does cancelled signify?

These stamps at one time was on an instrument, then were soaked off, if you could have seen them while still on the instrument, then the marking would make more sense then off the instrument. Quite a few revenues as such have "Cancelled" on them.

My question is I do not remember seeing "cancelled" on the RB series Revenues? Anyone have an example of an RB stamp with "cancelled" on it?

1898

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09 Oct 2023
05:56:49am

re: what does cancelled signify?

Unlike postage stamps, revenue cancels are much more varied but still performed a similar service; marking the stamp so it cannot be reused and as a fee being charged. There were US regulations that required cancellations be used in case there was any question the tax had been paid.

The straight line ‘Cancelled’ (early example shown below) is fairly generic and can be found on a number of different sources (i.e. not from a single company) over the years.

Image Not Found

The diversity of different US revenue cancels use over the years is astounding and offer many collecting opportunities. This diversity is largely due to the fact the US government did not supply revenue stamp cancellers to businesses, they were required to procure their own. At the time right after the Civil War, there were a number of companies which sprung up offering various hand cancellers. Small companies (or those which had not yet received their cancellers) could choose to use manuscript cancels. Obviously, manuscript cancelling was more time consuming and less efficient than hand stamping of using other more automated cancellers.
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