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12 Sep 2023
04:07:59pm
I hate it when this happens! Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.Image Not Found

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12 Sep 2023
04:15:52pm
re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

#51 - Umber Brown #52 - Violet Brown According to Unitrade the reissue is usually brighter. My two look like your two, the second one is darker and appears to have a little bit of violet in it, I think!! Let's put it this way, if your two are not #51 and #52 then mine aren't either. The colour difference is quite subtle but the second one is darker, as mine is as well!

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12 Sep 2023
04:44:11pm
re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

''' .....ANY THOUGHTS,,,,,,,''

I think you would have the best results in the ''Canada'' section.

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12 Sep 2023
06:02:47pm
re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

Yours are both #51

Here is a 52 offered by a major Canadian dealer, with a Vincent Graves Greene Foundation certificate

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and yours (cropped)
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Admittedly, they are from two different scans, but the difference is very obvious. There is no violet in either of your copies, and shades still exist within a particular catalogue number. Remember #51 was used for 9 years before #52 was issued.

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12 Sep 2023
06:02:47pm
re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

CDJ....you are certainly correct. I'll see if there are any more responses here. If none, I will post there. Is there Amy way a moderator could move it intact to Canada section? I apologize for the inconvenience.

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12 Sep 2023
06:10:56pm
re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

Roy, great post! I'm not sure if I can see any violet in mine either. I will probably have to chase down an actual #52 myself!! Bah, humbug!!!
EDIT: I'm travelling to see my local stamp dealer on Thursday to pick up a few items a bit bothersome to ship (crystal black mounts, a book on Canada Revenues and three large books of US precancels) and I'll have a look to see what he has available for Newfoundland #52. After comparing mine to the one Roy posted I really have my doubts!! I think both John and I have 51 (umber brown) and 51a (brown) which are both fairly cheap compared to #52!

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13 Sep 2023
08:18:24am
re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

Do I have to return the new BMW?

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12 Sep 2023
04:07:59pm

I hate it when this happens! Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.Image Not Found

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12 Sep 2023
04:15:52pm

re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

#51 - Umber Brown #52 - Violet Brown According to Unitrade the reissue is usually brighter. My two look like your two, the second one is darker and appears to have a little bit of violet in it, I think!! Let's put it this way, if your two are not #51 and #52 then mine aren't either. The colour difference is quite subtle but the second one is darker, as mine is as well!

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"As anyone who has ever been around a cat for any length of time well knows cats have enormous patience with the limitations of the humankind."

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12 Sep 2023
04:44:11pm

re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

''' .....ANY THOUGHTS,,,,,,,''

I think you would have the best results in the ''Canada'' section.

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12 Sep 2023
06:02:47pm

re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

Yours are both #51

Here is a 52 offered by a major Canadian dealer, with a Vincent Graves Greene Foundation certificate

Image Not Found
and yours (cropped)
Image Not Found

Admittedly, they are from two different scans, but the difference is very obvious. There is no violet in either of your copies, and shades still exist within a particular catalogue number. Remember #51 was used for 9 years before #52 was issued.

Roy

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12 Sep 2023
06:02:47pm

re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

CDJ....you are certainly correct. I'll see if there are any more responses here. If none, I will post there. Is there Amy way a moderator could move it intact to Canada section? I apologize for the inconvenience.

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12 Sep 2023
06:10:56pm

re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

Roy, great post! I'm not sure if I can see any violet in mine either. I will probably have to chase down an actual #52 myself!! Bah, humbug!!!
EDIT: I'm travelling to see my local stamp dealer on Thursday to pick up a few items a bit bothersome to ship (crystal black mounts, a book on Canada Revenues and three large books of US precancels) and I'll have a look to see what he has available for Newfoundland #52. After comparing mine to the one Roy posted I really have my doubts!! I think both John and I have 51 (umber brown) and 51a (brown) which are both fairly cheap compared to #52!

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13 Sep 2023
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re: Another color challenge....Newfoundland 51 or 52?

Do I have to return the new BMW?

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