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My choice come to: Hummingbirds, Ducks, Owls and Roses.
All are just perfect design by artist, but Hummingbirds (or Colibri, how we know to call it), deserve to be on first place as best in 2022.
I see, from official site, that quantity printed varied from 1600 to 8000 pieces from set of four stamps, so, it is now challenge to have one complete set, 1600 pieces is for low face value stamp and 8000 is for highest face value in set, mean, when all 1600 stamp will be sold it will be "end" of possibility to have it more complete sets accumulated. Yes, it have great impact on prices too (small quantity printed), because it is very popular topics in stamp collecting, and too, if you collect just used or really traveled used material, than prepare to have hard time in the future in completing this sets.
Checking internet, we see that price tag for complete set in mnh condition go from 11.00 to 18.00 US$ per set, than there are postage cost too. If You go after having this issues in small sheets of 6 and m/s, than, again, prepare budget for it because I see that prices for small sheet of 6 sets go around 80.00 US$ per one set!
Expensive yes, worth to have it? I think yes, if You are serious in building one specialized or complete collection for this topical or country!
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Hi Milco
I'm glad you collect stamps from my country (unfortunately I don't)
They are very beautiful stamps and I noticed that the "Colibri" series are sold out.
The number of stamps at the low face value of the series is 6512 (to the 1600 stamps ordered by "Posta Romana" there are also 1312 and 3600 ordered by "Romfilatelia").
"Posta Romana" orders different amounts of face values from the series according to their needs and indeed the lowest face value is in the smallest print.
The "Colibri" series was sold by "Romfilatelia" for 6.4 Euros.
Romanian stamps can be bought on the website "romfilatelia.ro" and I suspect that the total price will be lower than the dealers' price of 11-18 US $.
Maybe I'm wrong, You need to clarify the method of payment and the transport costs.
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Gerom:
You know, 6.40 euro is around 7.00 US$, so, someone who is selling on internet (eBay or other), will not sell for this face value You mentioned, because there will be no profit at all!
For sure, they will not calculate envelope and time spend in Post Office, because it will be overpriced, but, as I see,
and You say that "Colibri" is sold out, than price can just go up.
Personally, I don't keep in stock a "quantity" of Romania material, because I specialized in Yugoslavia (and related Republics), but few of my long time clients have it hard to obtain Romania material, and they don't want to spend time and money to purchase it directly from Romanian Post or Official Shop, for reason of too much administration around, and time of delivery, way of payment too, so I help where I can.
What I'm glad to see (and I know issues from Romania well), that design and printing is now much-much better that before!
(Pheasant issue from 2020, shown, is just perfect made)
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I am Romanian and I collect Romanian stamps. The current problem with stamps issued by Romfilatelia is an overwhelming of recent issues. From my knowledge, Romanian Postal Office buys the stamps, probably at discounted price, from Romfilatelia. From Post Office you cannot buy complete sets, because they order only most common stamps. The higher face value stamps are not usually available there. This is the reason that postally circulated high value stamps practically do not exists! A big problem for stamp collectors is the way stamps are printed. Almost any set has a lot of variants: tete-beche, labels, different arrangements, minisheets of 4, 5, etc., etc, all creating a financial nightmare for a serious collector. Real collectors are very few. Romfilatelia is an independent business, created with the purpose of making money. The only reason they exist is that Postal Office needs stamps. They also sale stamps through independent stores and world-wide dealers. From what I heard, Post Office employes will not accept your letters with stamps purchased from these stores. Reason? They do not make money this way.
Indeed, the quality of modern Romanian stamps is great. But they also issue stamps with too many topics. Something like Burundi.
It would be interesting to see other opinions.
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gerom, why don't you collect Romanian stamps?
Just curious.
I have some recent maxicards, besides my childhood collection.
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5-6 years ago I started looking for information about inherited stamps. I didn't know anything about stamps.
It was impossible for me to find a Romanian philatelic site where I could discuss my stamps or a philatelic association near my city.
I turned to French and English language sites...which influenced my collecting field (originally France and currently Germany)
Now that I have more experience about stamps or about the sites where I can find specialized information, I still haven't found enough information about Romanian stamps (up to 1930)
Can you give me the name of an expert in this field?...I couldn't find it.
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@virgilp: ....as I know, all postage stamps are accepted in any Post Office, as it is still legal note to pay service, so no need to worry about. High face value on really traveled mail are available, but, yes, just if Your supplier will be nice to use it! Hardly that everyone will use high face value stamps on shipment, because dealers and collectors know well that it is printed in low quantity, so they will avoid using it, but also because people like to receive as much stamps on cover as possible, mean, low value will be used! Now, regarding comparison between Romania and Burundi, You know, they are still in "affordable" level quantity, not as other from Oceania, or even some more "developed" countries, but what worry me, is this low quantity printed, this will have big impact in completing collection of this country!
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Romfilatelia is the company which prints stamps, not Romanian Postal Service. The name of Postal Service in Romanian is “Posta Romana”. Romfilatelia prints whatever they want in whatever quantity they want and at whatever prices they want. In 2019 there were issued 53 sets of stamps (including souvenir sheets). Many stamps were printed in sheets of 5+label, sheets of 8+label, 13+labels. Indeed, they are in “affordable” quantities, but a stamp collector would like to get also the labels, tete-beches, etc. As result, the prices are not "affordable" for a Romanian stamp collector. Because there are so many sets, varieties and souvenir sheets to collect, many stamp collectors just stopped to collect, including myself.
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@virgilp, you are wrong with these statements (not entirely).
It is an absurd organization of these societies that I think is possible only in Romania.
If you speak Romanian, search on Google: "Curtea de conturi. Romfilatelia" and you will find an audit report and you will be able to make a more correct idea.
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Indeed, maybe I exaggerated somehow the status of Romfilatelia. But I keep my opinion that the number of sets issued every year are exaggeratedly high, making difficult for a collector to keep up with everything they issue.
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In previous post, we talk about nice and quality work by Romania postal worker and sender of mail, and now, I wish to show four issues from Romania 2022 year, that (according my view) is worth to have in collection.
My choice come to: Hummingbirds, Ducks, Owls and Roses.
All are just perfect design by artist, but Hummingbirds (or Colibri, how we know to call it), deserve to be on first place as best in 2022.
I see, from official site, that quantity printed varied from 1600 to 8000 pieces from set of four stamps, so, it is now challenge to have one complete set, 1600 pieces is for low face value stamp and 8000 is for highest face value in set, mean, when all 1600 stamp will be sold it will be "end" of possibility to have it more complete sets accumulated. Yes, it have great impact on prices too (small quantity printed), because it is very popular topics in stamp collecting, and too, if you collect just used or really traveled used material, than prepare to have hard time in the future in completing this sets.
Checking internet, we see that price tag for complete set in mnh condition go from 11.00 to 18.00 US$ per set, than there are postage cost too. If You go after having this issues in small sheets of 6 and m/s, than, again, prepare budget for it because I see that prices for small sheet of 6 sets go around 80.00 US$ per one set!
Expensive yes, worth to have it? I think yes, if You are serious in building one specialized or complete collection for this topical or country!
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Hi Milco
I'm glad you collect stamps from my country (unfortunately I don't)
They are very beautiful stamps and I noticed that the "Colibri" series are sold out.
The number of stamps at the low face value of the series is 6512 (to the 1600 stamps ordered by "Posta Romana" there are also 1312 and 3600 ordered by "Romfilatelia").
"Posta Romana" orders different amounts of face values from the series according to their needs and indeed the lowest face value is in the smallest print.
The "Colibri" series was sold by "Romfilatelia" for 6.4 Euros.
Romanian stamps can be bought on the website "romfilatelia.ro" and I suspect that the total price will be lower than the dealers' price of 11-18 US $.
Maybe I'm wrong, You need to clarify the method of payment and the transport costs.
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Gerom:
You know, 6.40 euro is around 7.00 US$, so, someone who is selling on internet (eBay or other), will not sell for this face value You mentioned, because there will be no profit at all!
For sure, they will not calculate envelope and time spend in Post Office, because it will be overpriced, but, as I see,
and You say that "Colibri" is sold out, than price can just go up.
Personally, I don't keep in stock a "quantity" of Romania material, because I specialized in Yugoslavia (and related Republics), but few of my long time clients have it hard to obtain Romania material, and they don't want to spend time and money to purchase it directly from Romanian Post or Official Shop, for reason of too much administration around, and time of delivery, way of payment too, so I help where I can.
What I'm glad to see (and I know issues from Romania well), that design and printing is now much-much better that before!
(Pheasant issue from 2020, shown, is just perfect made)
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re: ROMANIA 2022 (second part):
I am Romanian and I collect Romanian stamps. The current problem with stamps issued by Romfilatelia is an overwhelming of recent issues. From my knowledge, Romanian Postal Office buys the stamps, probably at discounted price, from Romfilatelia. From Post Office you cannot buy complete sets, because they order only most common stamps. The higher face value stamps are not usually available there. This is the reason that postally circulated high value stamps practically do not exists! A big problem for stamp collectors is the way stamps are printed. Almost any set has a lot of variants: tete-beche, labels, different arrangements, minisheets of 4, 5, etc., etc, all creating a financial nightmare for a serious collector. Real collectors are very few. Romfilatelia is an independent business, created with the purpose of making money. The only reason they exist is that Postal Office needs stamps. They also sale stamps through independent stores and world-wide dealers. From what I heard, Post Office employes will not accept your letters with stamps purchased from these stores. Reason? They do not make money this way.
Indeed, the quality of modern Romanian stamps is great. But they also issue stamps with too many topics. Something like Burundi.
It would be interesting to see other opinions.
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gerom, why don't you collect Romanian stamps?
Just curious.
I have some recent maxicards, besides my childhood collection.
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@dorincard
5-6 years ago I started looking for information about inherited stamps. I didn't know anything about stamps.
It was impossible for me to find a Romanian philatelic site where I could discuss my stamps or a philatelic association near my city.
I turned to French and English language sites...which influenced my collecting field (originally France and currently Germany)
Now that I have more experience about stamps or about the sites where I can find specialized information, I still haven't found enough information about Romanian stamps (up to 1930)
Can you give me the name of an expert in this field?...I couldn't find it.
George
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re: ROMANIA 2022 (second part):
@virgilp: ....as I know, all postage stamps are accepted in any Post Office, as it is still legal note to pay service, so no need to worry about. High face value on really traveled mail are available, but, yes, just if Your supplier will be nice to use it! Hardly that everyone will use high face value stamps on shipment, because dealers and collectors know well that it is printed in low quantity, so they will avoid using it, but also because people like to receive as much stamps on cover as possible, mean, low value will be used! Now, regarding comparison between Romania and Burundi, You know, they are still in "affordable" level quantity, not as other from Oceania, or even some more "developed" countries, but what worry me, is this low quantity printed, this will have big impact in completing collection of this country!
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re: ROMANIA 2022 (second part):
Romfilatelia is the company which prints stamps, not Romanian Postal Service. The name of Postal Service in Romanian is “Posta Romana”. Romfilatelia prints whatever they want in whatever quantity they want and at whatever prices they want. In 2019 there were issued 53 sets of stamps (including souvenir sheets). Many stamps were printed in sheets of 5+label, sheets of 8+label, 13+labels. Indeed, they are in “affordable” quantities, but a stamp collector would like to get also the labels, tete-beches, etc. As result, the prices are not "affordable" for a Romanian stamp collector. Because there are so many sets, varieties and souvenir sheets to collect, many stamp collectors just stopped to collect, including myself.
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@virgilp, you are wrong with these statements (not entirely).
It is an absurd organization of these societies that I think is possible only in Romania.
If you speak Romanian, search on Google: "Curtea de conturi. Romfilatelia" and you will find an audit report and you will be able to make a more correct idea.
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re: ROMANIA 2022 (second part):
Indeed, maybe I exaggerated somehow the status of Romfilatelia. But I keep my opinion that the number of sets issued every year are exaggeratedly high, making difficult for a collector to keep up with everything they issue.
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