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05:59:11pm
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Not damaged, no need to replace!
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06:52:07pm
Harvey,
Maybe not damaged, since it can frequently (but not always) be reversed with hydrogen peroxide. But from a dealer's perspective, the proof in the pudding is marketability. Put the oxidized stamp beside an otherwise identical condition example of the same stamp and see if you can sell both of them for the same price. The only way that will happen is if somebody tricks themselves into thinking it's a color variety ('cause I know you wouldn't suggest that).
So, from that standpoint, it's "fault".
Roy
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07:03:09pm
Good advice from both. I just hate messing with chemicals! In almost every case I have a good version as well, put the two together and write oxidized above one. I know it's not a colour variety but to me it's not really damage either - kind off hard to explain!
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Hi Harvey,
Oxidation is often known by a number of different terms. Some similar terms I have heard used are "environmentally damaged" or "toned". I consider it damage, though it is a controversial topic as it appears is to some extent reversable. I have myself experimented with a method that does reverse toning.
The Philatelic Foundation, a stamp expertisation service here in the United States uses the word "toned" as seen in this example website: http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd.php? ... .
The APS stamp certification service uses the same terminology. To see it used in situ search their website for certificate no. 203842.
I wasn't able to find an example certifcate from the Vincent Graves Greene Philatelic Research Foundation, a Canadian stamp expertisation service but I suspect they use a similar term.
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07:24:10pm
I looked at the two examples, very interesting stamps. My "toned" stamps are very cheap and one is a cheap document stamp on document. The cheap ones could be easily treated if I were of the mind to but I'm going to keep them as they are as examples. If I had a very expensive toned, or oxidized, stamp I'm not sure what I would do. The one on the document I pretty well have to leave. Great comments all, thank you!!
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"environmentally damaged"
It's amazing that political correctness is even starting to show up in philately. Sort of like calling a bald man "follicleally (sp?) challenged" or calling a fat man "too short for his weight"!!
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11 Aug 2023
05:59:11pm
That's the question! I have a few nice copies of stamps where the colour has changed due to oxidization, usually orange to brown. I know this can be reversed but if I don't do that is the stamp considered to be damaged and should be replaced? Just curious!!
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06:28:59pm
re: Is an oxidized stamp damaged?
Not damaged, no need to replace!
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11 Aug 2023
06:52:07pm
re: Is an oxidized stamp damaged?
Harvey,
Maybe not damaged, since it can frequently (but not always) be reversed with hydrogen peroxide. But from a dealer's perspective, the proof in the pudding is marketability. Put the oxidized stamp beside an otherwise identical condition example of the same stamp and see if you can sell both of them for the same price. The only way that will happen is if somebody tricks themselves into thinking it's a color variety ('cause I know you wouldn't suggest that).
So, from that standpoint, it's "fault".
Roy
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11 Aug 2023
07:03:09pm
re: Is an oxidized stamp damaged?
Good advice from both. I just hate messing with chemicals! In almost every case I have a good version as well, put the two together and write oxidized above one. I know it's not a colour variety but to me it's not really damage either - kind off hard to explain!
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re: Is an oxidized stamp damaged?
Hi Harvey,
Oxidation is often known by a number of different terms. Some similar terms I have heard used are "environmentally damaged" or "toned". I consider it damage, though it is a controversial topic as it appears is to some extent reversable. I have myself experimented with a method that does reverse toning.
The Philatelic Foundation, a stamp expertisation service here in the United States uses the word "toned" as seen in this example website: http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd.php? ... .
The APS stamp certification service uses the same terminology. To see it used in situ search their website for certificate no. 203842.
I wasn't able to find an example certifcate from the Vincent Graves Greene Philatelic Research Foundation, a Canadian stamp expertisation service but I suspect they use a similar term.
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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
11 Aug 2023
07:24:10pm
re: Is an oxidized stamp damaged?
I looked at the two examples, very interesting stamps. My "toned" stamps are very cheap and one is a cheap document stamp on document. The cheap ones could be easily treated if I were of the mind to but I'm going to keep them as they are as examples. If I had a very expensive toned, or oxidized, stamp I'm not sure what I would do. The one on the document I pretty well have to leave. Great comments all, thank you!!
Edit:
"environmentally damaged"
It's amazing that political correctness is even starting to show up in philately. Sort of like calling a bald man "follicleally (sp?) challenged" or calling a fat man "too short for his weight"!!
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