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Middle East/All : Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

 

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Terry
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06 Aug 2023
03:08:26pm
My 2017 Scott catalog lists the mint value of Lebanon #C91-C96 at $155.76. Could someone please check if a later edition of Scott catalog lists a premium for the set NH? I saw one MNH set listed on eBay as cataloging $575. Not sure if that is realistic.
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Billliz1025
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06 Aug 2023
04:41:08pm
re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

The 2020 catalog has the same price without a premium listed. I can't image the premium being 400%.

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Dakota
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06 Aug 2023
05:51:54pm
re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

The 2022 Scott Catalog has the same value. At the start of the Lebanon section, it states that the value for unused stamps are for never hinged starting with Catalog number C97

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06 Aug 2023
07:16:08pm
re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

This is an expensive set, as are many Lebanon sets of this era, but it should not warrant such a huge markup. For early Lebanon there are even rarer and more expensive issues to look for, where catalog prices may well be too low.
I am thinking of two souvenir sheets: the 1946 Sofar Arab Postal congress (not listed in Scott after C114) and the 1947 Evacuation of foreign troops (not listed in Scott after C118) They are listed in Yvert and Tellier
Lebanese post Issued only 500 each.
Rarely seen, and unfortunately counterfeit are often what you will see offered on line. (the original sheets have a bit of yellowish paper, the counterfeits are white background paper, if I remember it right, but certificates are recommended).

The 1946 S/S Victory celebration (see footnote after Scott C106) on thick honeycombed Chamois paper is also very hard to find, and is probably worth a lot more than the Scott price.
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07 Aug 2023
12:04:12pm
re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

Thank you so much for the responses. What I see in Scott is that many of the stamps listed before the dreaded yellow notice box have premiums for MNH. So, I was curious about that set. I was able to find a VF MNH set for $90 which I think is a reasonable price.

As for the souvenir/presentation sheets, yes there are not many offered. I have the 1946 S/S Victory celebration (footnote after Scott C106) on thick honeycombed chamois paper and it is rather large at 142mm x 230mm. It is perhaps the hardest to find as the 1972 Sanabria catalog states that only 300 were printed. While the other two sheets (noted in the footnote on thin white gummed paper with brown inscriptions, and on stout white un-gummed paper with blue inscriptions) had printings of about 4,000 each.

The 1946 Arab Postal Congress and the 1947 Evacuation of Foreign Troops souvenir sheets run a close second as hardest to find with printings of only 500 each. I'm still searching for a good deal on those.

I am also finding it difficult to find a MNH 1938 Maurice Nogues Flight souvenir sheet with four stamps measuring 159mm x122 mm (Scott #C79a). Even though 10,000 were printed, most of the ones offered have serious creases or have been cut-down in size!

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07 Aug 2023
01:04:47pm
re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

Terry how right you are, I am also still looking for the two S/S(Arab Sofar postal congress, and Evacuation of troops) and the Victory celebration Scott C106 note, with Chamois paper.
What I see on sale does not inspire confidence for authenticity, or is sold well above my target goal price. But given the low number of sheets produced, I am not optimistic.

There is also a non issued set of 5 stamps (both perf and imperf) for the 1936 Independence treaty (which was not signed and so the stamps were never issued). The entire stamp run was not destroyed for Lebanon (a similar set for Syria was incinerated, and what was salvaged is extremely rare).
The Lebanon stamps were kept and saved by some enterprising persons, who still hoped the treaty would pass and they could profit from it. After 1948, the "owners" of the sheets began to sell the sheets to dealers, and they started to sell the sheets, singles, pairs and blocks. (ref: the Levant. Journal of the Ottoman & Near East Philatelic Society, No 6. Vol X Sept 2020)
This is a set I also wish I could locate for my collection.

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07 Aug 2023
01:42:58pm
re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

Ahh-h yes... the 1936 Independence Treaty issue. I collect airmail stamps, so I'm looking for that one stamp as well (a space has been prepared in my computer designed pages in the hopes that it can be filled). It is listed in the 1972 Sanabria catalog (Sanabria #71) with little information except that it was printed photogravure by Helio Vaugirard (France) and perforated 10½, as well as imperforate. Thank you very much for the additional info on this issue!


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06 Aug 2023
03:08:26pm

My 2017 Scott catalog lists the mint value of Lebanon #C91-C96 at $155.76. Could someone please check if a later edition of Scott catalog lists a premium for the set NH? I saw one MNH set listed on eBay as cataloging $575. Not sure if that is realistic.

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06 Aug 2023
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re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

The 2020 catalog has the same price without a premium listed. I can't image the premium being 400%.

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Dakota

06 Aug 2023
05:51:54pm

re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

The 2022 Scott Catalog has the same value. At the start of the Lebanon section, it states that the value for unused stamps are for never hinged starting with Catalog number C97

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06 Aug 2023
07:16:08pm

re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

This is an expensive set, as are many Lebanon sets of this era, but it should not warrant such a huge markup. For early Lebanon there are even rarer and more expensive issues to look for, where catalog prices may well be too low.
I am thinking of two souvenir sheets: the 1946 Sofar Arab Postal congress (not listed in Scott after C114) and the 1947 Evacuation of foreign troops (not listed in Scott after C118) They are listed in Yvert and Tellier
Lebanese post Issued only 500 each.
Rarely seen, and unfortunately counterfeit are often what you will see offered on line. (the original sheets have a bit of yellowish paper, the counterfeits are white background paper, if I remember it right, but certificates are recommended).

The 1946 S/S Victory celebration (see footnote after Scott C106) on thick honeycombed Chamois paper is also very hard to find, and is probably worth a lot more than the Scott price.
rrr...

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07 Aug 2023
12:04:12pm

re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

Thank you so much for the responses. What I see in Scott is that many of the stamps listed before the dreaded yellow notice box have premiums for MNH. So, I was curious about that set. I was able to find a VF MNH set for $90 which I think is a reasonable price.

As for the souvenir/presentation sheets, yes there are not many offered. I have the 1946 S/S Victory celebration (footnote after Scott C106) on thick honeycombed chamois paper and it is rather large at 142mm x 230mm. It is perhaps the hardest to find as the 1972 Sanabria catalog states that only 300 were printed. While the other two sheets (noted in the footnote on thin white gummed paper with brown inscriptions, and on stout white un-gummed paper with blue inscriptions) had printings of about 4,000 each.

The 1946 Arab Postal Congress and the 1947 Evacuation of Foreign Troops souvenir sheets run a close second as hardest to find with printings of only 500 each. I'm still searching for a good deal on those.

I am also finding it difficult to find a MNH 1938 Maurice Nogues Flight souvenir sheet with four stamps measuring 159mm x122 mm (Scott #C79a). Even though 10,000 were printed, most of the ones offered have serious creases or have been cut-down in size!

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07 Aug 2023
01:04:47pm

re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

Terry how right you are, I am also still looking for the two S/S(Arab Sofar postal congress, and Evacuation of troops) and the Victory celebration Scott C106 note, with Chamois paper.
What I see on sale does not inspire confidence for authenticity, or is sold well above my target goal price. But given the low number of sheets produced, I am not optimistic.

There is also a non issued set of 5 stamps (both perf and imperf) for the 1936 Independence treaty (which was not signed and so the stamps were never issued). The entire stamp run was not destroyed for Lebanon (a similar set for Syria was incinerated, and what was salvaged is extremely rare).
The Lebanon stamps were kept and saved by some enterprising persons, who still hoped the treaty would pass and they could profit from it. After 1948, the "owners" of the sheets began to sell the sheets to dealers, and they started to sell the sheets, singles, pairs and blocks. (ref: the Levant. Journal of the Ottoman & Near East Philatelic Society, No 6. Vol X Sept 2020)
This is a set I also wish I could locate for my collection.

rrr...

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07 Aug 2023
01:42:58pm

re: Lebanon Scott C91-C96 MNH Value?

Ahh-h yes... the 1936 Independence Treaty issue. I collect airmail stamps, so I'm looking for that one stamp as well (a space has been prepared in my computer designed pages in the hopes that it can be filled). It is listed in the 1972 Sanabria catalog (Sanabria #71) with little information except that it was printed photogravure by Helio Vaugirard (France) and perforated 10½, as well as imperforate. Thank you very much for the additional info on this issue!


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