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United States/BOB & Other : Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

 

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13 Jul 2023
10:16:41pm
I was doing a bit of research on Shanghai overprints on U S stamps. I am missing one of the K code stamps and was looking online and discovered a whole bunch of others called the Darrah printings. I haven't looked for prices yet but am wondering if any of you US specialty collectors could show a few scans. I'm not sure (yet) how many there are and what they might go for.
Edit: There are several on E-Bay. High CV cited but very low bidding. They look incredibly easy to fake. Does anyone have any advice?
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14 Jul 2023
12:18:13am
re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

I only have a footnote reference to the unauthorized Darrah printing, as it goes they were only on sale for one week and withdrawn from sale. These were printed by the direction of the Shanghai Postal Agent John Darrah in December 1913. They were withdrawn by order of the United States Postmaster General.

These Darrah printing and the K code stamps (as you call them) are faked alot. More faked overprints exist then the real stamps with the right and proper overprint see the scan (for the Darrah overprint).

Most of the faked overprints come from Canada.

If I was going to collect these (both types) I get them on cover. I would stay away from mint copies as these are for sure faked overprints!

1898

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14 Jul 2023
11:41:28pm
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@Harvey

Of course if you already have the faked overprints you could display them in some fashion. I've seen collecors who seek out thes fake overprints.

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15 Jul 2023
08:32:42am
re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

"I would stay away from mint copies as these are for sure faked overprints!"


The dealer I buy most of my material from has been in the business, him and his father, for over 50 years and they really know their stamps. I've got most of my Shanghai overprints from them over the years. They trust their sources and I trust them. Every time someone mentions overprints here there are several posters who automatically say "they must be fake". I'm starting to get a bit tired of the negative comments from certain people. If you can't have the odd nice thing to say, not always, just occasionally, maybe you should keep some of your comments to yourself. Sorry if I've insulted anyone, but the occasional positive comment would be real nice!

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15 Jul 2023
09:08:12am
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@Harvey

I agree there are alot of negative comments!

I need to organize my notes better, as I found a reference that Mr. Darrah claimed his intention as to the overprints that they were meant as precancels.

You are lucky if you have a right and proper dealer that you trust. Is your dealer online, and does your dealer offer money back? Please share your dealers site I'd like to see if your dealer has anything I'd be interested in.

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15 Jul 2023
11:23:06am
re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

My dealer is local and does not, as far as I know, sell on line. I started buying from him in 1972 when I saw an ad for Nickerson Stamps in The Canadian Stamp News long before home computers existed. He does have a web site (https://nickerson-stamps.com/) but I don't think he sells in places like E-Bay. He is pretty much an approval service and as such items are always returnable. He has my want lists and sends me items every two weeks. If the items are especially expensive it's only an hours drive so I pick items up from him. His father helps in his shop and between the two of them they have had almost 100 years experience. I've never had a problem and, believe it or not, in all that time I've never had his items get lost in the mail - knock on wood. If he's not sure about an item, for example early Poland overprints and similar material, he charges very low prices and will always allow me to return the items. I believe he also does local stamp shows.

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16 Jul 2023
01:59:10pm
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@Harvey

Since your interested in the various over prints of China, perhaps you be interested in the invasion of Mexico by the U.S. in 1914 Vera Cruz, I know next to nothing about these, but U.S. stamps were used.

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16 Jul 2023
07:32:10pm
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"perhaps you be interested in the invasion of Mexico by the U.S. in 1914 Vera Cruz, I know next to nothing about these, but U.S. stamps were used."


Sounds interesting, I'll check it out!! Thanks!! History is the main reason I got into stamps, so why not?
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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
13 Jul 2023
10:16:41pm

I was doing a bit of research on Shanghai overprints on U S stamps. I am missing one of the K code stamps and was looking online and discovered a whole bunch of others called the Darrah printings. I haven't looked for prices yet but am wondering if any of you US specialty collectors could show a few scans. I'm not sure (yet) how many there are and what they might go for.
Edit: There are several on E-Bay. High CV cited but very low bidding. They look incredibly easy to fake. Does anyone have any advice?

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1898

14 Jul 2023
12:18:13am

re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

I only have a footnote reference to the unauthorized Darrah printing, as it goes they were only on sale for one week and withdrawn from sale. These were printed by the direction of the Shanghai Postal Agent John Darrah in December 1913. They were withdrawn by order of the United States Postmaster General.

These Darrah printing and the K code stamps (as you call them) are faked alot. More faked overprints exist then the real stamps with the right and proper overprint see the scan (for the Darrah overprint).

Most of the faked overprints come from Canada.

If I was going to collect these (both types) I get them on cover. I would stay away from mint copies as these are for sure faked overprints!

1898

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14 Jul 2023
11:41:28pm

re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

@Harvey

Of course if you already have the faked overprints you could display them in some fashion. I've seen collecors who seek out thes fake overprints.

1898

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15 Jul 2023
08:32:42am

re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

"I would stay away from mint copies as these are for sure faked overprints!"


The dealer I buy most of my material from has been in the business, him and his father, for over 50 years and they really know their stamps. I've got most of my Shanghai overprints from them over the years. They trust their sources and I trust them. Every time someone mentions overprints here there are several posters who automatically say "they must be fake". I'm starting to get a bit tired of the negative comments from certain people. If you can't have the odd nice thing to say, not always, just occasionally, maybe you should keep some of your comments to yourself. Sorry if I've insulted anyone, but the occasional positive comment would be real nice!

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1898

15 Jul 2023
09:08:12am

re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

@Harvey

I agree there are alot of negative comments!

I need to organize my notes better, as I found a reference that Mr. Darrah claimed his intention as to the overprints that they were meant as precancels.

You are lucky if you have a right and proper dealer that you trust. Is your dealer online, and does your dealer offer money back? Please share your dealers site I'd like to see if your dealer has anything I'd be interested in.

1898


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15 Jul 2023
11:23:06am

re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

My dealer is local and does not, as far as I know, sell on line. I started buying from him in 1972 when I saw an ad for Nickerson Stamps in The Canadian Stamp News long before home computers existed. He does have a web site (https://nickerson-stamps.com/) but I don't think he sells in places like E-Bay. He is pretty much an approval service and as such items are always returnable. He has my want lists and sends me items every two weeks. If the items are especially expensive it's only an hours drive so I pick items up from him. His father helps in his shop and between the two of them they have had almost 100 years experience. I've never had a problem and, believe it or not, in all that time I've never had his items get lost in the mail - knock on wood. If he's not sure about an item, for example early Poland overprints and similar material, he charges very low prices and will always allow me to return the items. I believe he also does local stamp shows.

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1898

16 Jul 2023
01:59:10pm

re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

@Harvey

Since your interested in the various over prints of China, perhaps you be interested in the invasion of Mexico by the U.S. in 1914 Vera Cruz, I know next to nothing about these, but U.S. stamps were used.

1898

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
16 Jul 2023
07:32:10pm

re: Darrah printings - Shanghai overprints

"perhaps you be interested in the invasion of Mexico by the U.S. in 1914 Vera Cruz, I know next to nothing about these, but U.S. stamps were used."


Sounds interesting, I'll check it out!! Thanks!! History is the main reason I got into stamps, so why not?
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