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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Thoughts on this early Newfie stamp

 

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26 Jun 2023
06:03:00pm
This stamp appears to have the name of the printer at the top. Unfortunately, you can only see the lower portion. The last part appears to read ..."& CO. New York". I looked up printing companies of early Newfie stamps and they were all in Canada. Any Thoughts? Kinda interesting if nothing else.

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26 Jun 2023
06:26:48pm
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Please scan the back!

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26 Jun 2023
06:30:56pm
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I checked in my Canada Unitrade and above stamps from this time period it says "National Bank Note Co., New York". This changes later to "British American Bank Note Co., Montreal" so it seems OK for your #40 to be US in origin. I think!!
Edit: There is no need to show the back. It would be blank as are both of my copies - I have the regular rouletted copy and one that someone has perforated 10 for some reason!

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26 Jun 2023
06:44:21pm

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26 Jun 2023
07:48:31pm
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Alway, repeat always scan the back of stamps when trying to make the correct identification!

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26 Jun 2023
09:38:20pm
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Sometimes the back can show interesting things but all this was about was the printer's name which was on the front. Also there was absolutely no doubt about the identification of the stamp - it had to be #40.

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27 Jun 2023
08:50:38am
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Thanks Folks! Always something interesting.

I saw no reason to post back of stamp pic.......it would have added nothing to the issue at question.

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27 Jun 2023
08:51:46am
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Harvey...do yours show the printer name?

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27 Jun 2023
11:32:53am
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No neither of mine does. You'd need larger margins to show that. Your's is a top row with a large top margin so obviously that's where the printer's ID is/ It might be on the bottom as well. That's a great copy of that stamp!!

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27 Jun 2023
12:54:10pm
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@bigcreekdad

The reason to show the back is for a number of reasons, the subject of your original posting "Thoughts of this early Newfie stamp".

My thoughts includes showing the back, as I think this is an egraved flat press printed stamp that appears over inked and sometimes there is an offsett.

Also suggest you apply the water mark process to see if anything appears.

I have a question what is "Newfie" I can't find it anywhere?

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27 Jun 2023
04:14:31pm
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Newfie - short for Newfoundland?

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27 Jun 2023
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27 Jun 2023
06:03:24pm
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1898

I'll repeat what I said earlier. I was only wondering about the printer's ID at the top of the stamp.

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27 Jun 2023
11:44:28pm
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Thought you'd like to see what the words are on you stamp see the attached scan, by the way with a little detective work you could figure out what the words were, especially if you would show the reverse side! Using the water mark process might have helped too!

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28 Jun 2023
08:18:50am
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'' ...I have a question what is "Newfie" I can't find it anywhere?....''

The answer is on the front of the stamp.

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28 Jun 2023
08:43:54am
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1898....please give this a break

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28 Jun 2023
08:44:48am
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You are correct!

But the subject line "Newfie" is used, Stamp-O-Rama is a United States based, and Newfie would not be correct.

People, people please consider what words you use in the subject line, be clear!

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28 Jun 2023
09:03:38am
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Stamp-O-Rama is for people who love stamps.

I love stamps and like to talk about stamps and do research on stamps.

I find it interesting your stamp the words are on the top and the example I gave the words are on the right side, why is this? I'm researching this question now, have not found anything useful yet.

No one is forcing you or anybody else to read any of my posting.

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28 Jun 2023
06:40:22pm
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1898:

You may not be aware of this simple trick. It works, at least, with the Chrome browser, on the Windows platform. I'll defer to others to report if it works for other browsers and other platforms.

If you double-click on the word Newfie anywhere in this thread, it should be highlighted. (In my case, it transforms to a blue background with white letters.) That means the word is selected. You can then right-click on that highlighted word. This provides some context-specific options.

One of those options is 'Search Google for "Newfie". If you then highlight that option and left-click, Chrome will open a tab using "Newfie" as the search term.

The first item Chrome returns for me is from Wikipedia, and it says:

""Newfie is a colloquial term used by Canadians and others for someone who is from Newfoundland. Some Newfoundlanders consider "Newfie" as a slur first used ...""



In my experience, it takes about 3 seconds.

I've been able to answer so many of my own questions quickly that way, but I'm not sure this technique is widely known.

I hope this helps.

(Btw, I did know what Newfie meant without looking it up, and I'm in the US. So I don't think it was a completely unreasonable word choice for the original poster.)


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28 Jun 2023
07:22:48pm
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Dave, I'm running Firefox with DuckDuckGo and it gives me the option to search the web, just like you say.

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28 Jun 2023
09:30:16pm
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@Philatarium

I'm not a computer person and really not interested in learning anything new on a computer!

Thank you

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29 Jun 2023
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'' ... I'm not a computer person and really not interested in learning anything new on a computer!...''

That is very interesting, but makes me curious about how you get your quill pen to print your comments.
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29 Jun 2023
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Was this really necessary!

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29 Jun 2023
08:49:12am
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I thought it was kinda funny. Relax.

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30 Jun 2023
08:06:38am
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"I find it interesting your stamp the words are on the top and the example I gave the words are on the right side, why is this? I'm researching this question now, have not found anything useful yet."




Educated guess would be that the printing continues around the outer selvage of the sheet.


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30 Jun 2023
11:16:23am
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Was your posting about me? If I'm wrong sorry.

I've been using computers since 1977.

Now my computer time is spent with researching cancels about 90% of computer time everyday.

The other 10% would be searching revenue cancels on ebay, and Stamp-O-Rama, and emailing my kids.

So please tell me what other areas on the computer I need to learn relating to stamps and other areas?

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26 Jun 2023
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This stamp appears to have the name of the printer at the top. Unfortunately, you can only see the lower portion. The last part appears to read ..."& CO. New York". I looked up printing companies of early Newfie stamps and they were all in Canada. Any Thoughts? Kinda interesting if nothing else.

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26 Jun 2023
06:26:48pm

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Please scan the back!

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I checked in my Canada Unitrade and above stamps from this time period it says "National Bank Note Co., New York". This changes later to "British American Bank Note Co., Montreal" so it seems OK for your #40 to be US in origin. I think!!
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26 Jun 2023
06:44:21pm

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26 Jun 2023
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Alway, repeat always scan the back of stamps when trying to make the correct identification!

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Sometimes the back can show interesting things but all this was about was the printer's name which was on the front. Also there was absolutely no doubt about the identification of the stamp - it had to be #40.

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27 Jun 2023
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Thanks Folks! Always something interesting.

I saw no reason to post back of stamp pic.......it would have added nothing to the issue at question.

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Harvey...do yours show the printer name?

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No neither of mine does. You'd need larger margins to show that. Your's is a top row with a large top margin so obviously that's where the printer's ID is/ It might be on the bottom as well. That's a great copy of that stamp!!

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27 Jun 2023
12:54:10pm

re: Thoughts on this early Newfie stamp

@bigcreekdad

The reason to show the back is for a number of reasons, the subject of your original posting "Thoughts of this early Newfie stamp".

My thoughts includes showing the back, as I think this is an egraved flat press printed stamp that appears over inked and sometimes there is an offsett.

Also suggest you apply the water mark process to see if anything appears.

I have a question what is "Newfie" I can't find it anywhere?

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Newfie - short for Newfoundland?

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1898

I'll repeat what I said earlier. I was only wondering about the printer's ID at the top of the stamp.

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Thought you'd like to see what the words are on you stamp see the attached scan, by the way with a little detective work you could figure out what the words were, especially if you would show the reverse side! Using the water mark process might have helped too!

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'' ...I have a question what is "Newfie" I can't find it anywhere?....''

The answer is on the front of the stamp.

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1898....please give this a break

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You are correct!

But the subject line "Newfie" is used, Stamp-O-Rama is a United States based, and Newfie would not be correct.

People, people please consider what words you use in the subject line, be clear!

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28 Jun 2023
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Stamp-O-Rama is for people who love stamps.

I love stamps and like to talk about stamps and do research on stamps.

I find it interesting your stamp the words are on the top and the example I gave the words are on the right side, why is this? I'm researching this question now, have not found anything useful yet.

No one is forcing you or anybody else to read any of my posting.

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06:40:22pm

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1898:

You may not be aware of this simple trick. It works, at least, with the Chrome browser, on the Windows platform. I'll defer to others to report if it works for other browsers and other platforms.

If you double-click on the word Newfie anywhere in this thread, it should be highlighted. (In my case, it transforms to a blue background with white letters.) That means the word is selected. You can then right-click on that highlighted word. This provides some context-specific options.

One of those options is 'Search Google for "Newfie". If you then highlight that option and left-click, Chrome will open a tab using "Newfie" as the search term.

The first item Chrome returns for me is from Wikipedia, and it says:

""Newfie is a colloquial term used by Canadians and others for someone who is from Newfoundland. Some Newfoundlanders consider "Newfie" as a slur first used ...""



In my experience, it takes about 3 seconds.

I've been able to answer so many of my own questions quickly that way, but I'm not sure this technique is widely known.

I hope this helps.

(Btw, I did know what Newfie meant without looking it up, and I'm in the US. So I don't think it was a completely unreasonable word choice for the original poster.)


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28 Jun 2023
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Dave, I'm running Firefox with DuckDuckGo and it gives me the option to search the web, just like you say.

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28 Jun 2023
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I'm not a computer person and really not interested in learning anything new on a computer!

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'' ... I'm not a computer person and really not interested in learning anything new on a computer!...''

That is very interesting, but makes me curious about how you get your quill pen to print your comments.
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29 Jun 2023
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I thought it was kinda funny. Relax.

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30 Jun 2023
08:06:38am

re: Thoughts on this early Newfie stamp

"I find it interesting your stamp the words are on the top and the example I gave the words are on the right side, why is this? I'm researching this question now, have not found anything useful yet."




Educated guess would be that the printing continues around the outer selvage of the sheet.


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30 Jun 2023
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@musicman

Was your posting about me? If I'm wrong sorry.

I've been using computers since 1977.

Now my computer time is spent with researching cancels about 90% of computer time everyday.

The other 10% would be searching revenue cancels on ebay, and Stamp-O-Rama, and emailing my kids.

So please tell me what other areas on the computer I need to learn relating to stamps and other areas?

Spoken with sadness, not malice!

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