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Here are a few from my collection:
A USA Scott# 73 Andrew Jackson with a reasonably well-centered sectional cork cancel
Panama Scott# 199 with sectional cork cancel in the form of a palm tree.
Great Britain Scott# 3 with London cancel.
US Scott# 3786 with the town mark from a Universal machine cancel.
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This one was an easy find..they are all over the place !
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Heres the second..many to follow !
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#3 off hand
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I do not think i have enough time left on this earth for all the Dutch kleinsrondstempels !
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i presumed i would find a lot of Guatemala socked on nose..but they are FANCY CANCELS and overprints.
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i found 3 similar to this ..thats about it.
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I've been a SON fan for most of my adult collecting career. Here's one of my favourites, not perfection as far as SON cancels go — it fades a bit at the bottom, and is inverted — but the indicia shows that it was postmarked in Kamsack, Saskatchewan, and that's enough for me to make it special even though I'd never heard of Kamsack. But I had been learning a lot about the history of Royal Canadian Navy corvettes during the Battle of the Atlantic in the Second World War. First, here's the stamp:
And here's the exhibit page I created for the stamp:
Flower-class corvettes were first designed and built by the British to protect convoys from the depredations of German U-boats during the Battle of the Atlantic. It’s no surprise that they were named after flowers! Canadian corvettes, some of which were built in Canada, hence HMCS Kamsack. Kamsack's wartime service was not marked by any successful attacks on U-boats, if success means a permanently submerged U-boat, but the corvettes as a group were important as deterrents to Hitler's plan to starve the British isles of food and war matériel. Few U-boat commanders would dare to stay surfaced if corvettes were lurking nearby; successful torpedo attacks were normally made from surfaced U-boats.
A British corvette was named HMS Pansy when construction started, but her name was changed to Heartsease prior to launch. Which was probably a good thing. British tars wore the name of their ship on their caps; it’s not hard to imagine the brawl that might ensue in a British pub if a group of tars from HMS Pansy made their entrance, especially if sailors from HMS Minotaur or HMS Implacable were well into their cups.
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St Thomas Prince:
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Portugal #65
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Belgium 1896, Mi.65 with cancel: Brussels Dec. 9, 1896
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Love the revenues!
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"Airplanes on Stamps" is my largest stamp collection. More correctly, I should call it "Aviation on Stamps". Also, it's not a topical collection, which would be limited to stamps picturing airplanes. My collection includes not just airplane topicals, but stamps showing aircraft parts (like engines, tails, engines, propellers), aircraft interiors, passengers and crew members, airports, famous aviators and aircraft designers, and even birds. I just couldn’t turn down these gorgeous, somewhat expensive, used copies of Italy Scott C28 and C32, commemorating Leonardo Da Vinci’s human-powered flying machine (which was never built, except as modern, full-scale replicas which don’t fly) and the Dante Alighieri Society:
I don’t know if those cancellations cancelled to order, but the arcs of the CDS cancellations and the arcs of the wings of Da Vinci’s man-powered flying machine are certainly complementary.
It's interesting that used copies of these stamps are valued more highly than mint copie sof the same stamps:
• According to my 2013 Scott catalogue, the 50c olive brown stamp is valued at $5.00 for a mint copy, but $14.50 for a used copy.
• The 7.70l +2l dark blue stamp is valued at $11.50 for a used copy, but $140.00 for a used copy!
The Scott values for the used stamps are printed in italics, indicating that Scott assumes that older used stamps may have modern rather than contemporaneous cancellations. The cancellations on these particular copies seem to me to be contemporaneous and genuine. Legitimate, postally used copies of these stamps seem to be quite rare; the stamps probably didn’t have large print runs.
Bob
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Costa Rica Transit Postmark:
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I've always enjoyed the non-traditional types of SONs....like those found on revenues and other BOBs .
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I don't understand "non-traditional types of SONs" could you give me an example as to what you are referring to?
The subject "Show your SON (socked-on-nose) cancels" which all my posting are SONs!
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'Traditional' cancels - referring to SONs are CDS's....Circular Date Stamp.
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The posting subject did not specify CDS, only SONs!
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I am aware of that.
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Whitehaven, Cumberland December 27, 1974
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Great Britain, 1864 - Scott #33, plate 72 with Edinburgh Brunswwick Star Postmark
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USA RBV 2 Federal Boating Stamp
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I have two such cancels resulted from my Stamp Out War: Support Ukraine! project: they were all applied on the 24th of August, 2022.
From Berlin, Germany:
From Chiba, Japan:
My two participants all felt sorry that the cancels were not that visible because they were on the stamps, but I think some philatelists (not necessarily maximaphilists) would consider these as the 'perfect' cancels.
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10:44:39am
A few Mexico items. I have a particular fondness for rouletted blocks of 4. (Maybe more on this in another post if I find a few minutes to dig and scan).
Observant individuals may notice something about the cancels on these.
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Hi Roy,
I am not familiar with these "Servicio Ambulante" cancels from Mexico, what do they mean?
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"I am not familiar with these "Servicio Ambulante" cancels from Mexico, what do they mean?"
"Ambulante" = Travelling Post Office = TPO = Railway Post Office = RPO
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I thought that myself but wasn’t sure. Thanks, Roy.
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Ambulante Postmarks from Costa Rica:
Ambulante - Puntarenas
Another Ambulante - Ramal
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Leona Vicario, August 25, 1912 - Used during the Mexican Revolution.
Hungary, Palace of Budapest, CDS / Bullseye, June 30, 1933, 10f on 70f Scarlet.
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Sweden #2625c White Animals (Lepus timidus) - Issued November 19, 2009
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I was sorting through glassines like i do when i have nothing else to do (about 16 hours a day) and this one jogged my memory..i remember when it came out it was probably one of the first 3 stamps in my collection. It has a nice cancel so i will replace the one in my 1949 Scott Modern with this one.
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Belgium Sc 85 with a postmark from Porte de Flandre,Brussels
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And tomorrow's date, AngloBob! 
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Perfin from Denmark with a Copenhagen postmark.
Also a Leap Year cancellation February 29 1956
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Quaker dating method, enhanced 37%
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French Guinea ,cancellation shows Knidia instead of Kindia.
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Thimble postmark from Deutsch Altenburg,Lower Austria
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Imperial Eagle of Maximilian I of Mexico. 1 real without District name, consignation and Date. Early Plate, used in Tampico in November 27, 1864 during the French Intervention. Stamps used without marks are scarce and can be identified with the Postmark
Mexico, Mail Coach stamp with CDS, "CERTIFICACION INERNACIONAL - MEXICO, D.F.", April 4, 1899. This type of Postmark are very difficult and scarce due to their little use. Regularly the name of the region or province was placed at the top.
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I have not looked at my Dutch Indies bulk lately...today i found this great socked on nose from Medan !
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Lovely squared-circle postmark from Medan, Phil.
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1856, 2 reales, Plate III - District. MEXICO, rare use - "Out of District" in TIXTLA GUERRERO. Stamps with big margins are scarce!.
Mexico, 1896 Transportation Mail Issue, 10c. Rose, Wove paper with irregular Pin perfs. 12 and Wmk.152. CDS "MEXICO, D.F. - February 27, 1896", cancellation at 7:00 p.m.. Now the Post Offices close at 3:00 p.m.
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RTV:
Beautiful Mexican stamps. I'm always happy to see Latini American stamps!
David
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01:37:24pm
Those perfs on that second Mexico stamp are very odd. I know almost nothing about early Mexico stamps!!
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"DavidG:
RTV:
Beautiful Mexican stamps. I'm always happy to see Latini American stamps!
David
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Harvey:
Those perfs on that second Mexico stamp are very odd. I know almost nothing about early Mexico stamps!!
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Thanks for your comments!. The “Transportation Mail Issue” was a series with some variants in the perforations.
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Mexico - 1856, 1 real, Plate 1, pair imperforated, District; "ZACATECAS", Sub-Office: "FRESNILLO", 6 points of rarity.
Mexico, 1856, District: Zacatecas, with "A" (Aguascalientes) Postmark. From Nov/3 to Nov/30, 1858 the principal post office of Zacatecas was located in Aguascalientes.The Mexican civil war (War of the Reform 1858-61) had some of its fiercest battles in this area
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I would not consider this as a SON cancellation.
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I was looking at my Palestine Cancelations and noticed how hard it is to find a well centered SON cancelation. Mostly the circular date cancel is much bigger than the stamp, so it is very rarely well centered and confined just to the stamp. Chances are cancelations on pieces are a much better bet.
Here are a few better ones from my files:
rescanned to get photos with better focus.
rrr...
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From my Collection: Mexico, Coat of Arms (Eagle) with CDS, "OFICINA CORREOS / MAZATLAN" date: November 12, 1910, 8 days before to the start of the independence of Mexico!
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Couple more cancellations
Denmark July 13 1960 with a Copenhagen cancellation.
Mauritania June 12 1939 with a Chinguetti cancellation..
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06:54:34am
May I ask what would you consider "SON" cancel(s)?
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A postmark which is typically a circle with the date and town/city and applied in the centre of the stamp.An ideal SON cancel has the entire postmark within the margins of the stamp although this may not always be possible if the stamp is too small.
Early Austrian cancellations were smaller in diameter so they could be seen entirely on a stamp.
Example attached.
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500th Anniversary of Copenhagen University with a Copenhagen postmark.
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Stamp from Travancore (India), 1911, SON on Mi.15.
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Another wonderful SON cancellation.
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Thank you
I wonder what this one would look like if the cancel was green or blue color.
I have more to share.
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Not IAW Treasury directive of 1899
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Bills of Lading
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Any questions, address questions to"1898", I do not read all posting!
(Special Note: On this reissue the watermarks are easier to detect)
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Cyprus, rural cancel Kalopanayoti
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Queensland, 121 of Clifton
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Austrian Military Post
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Austria with cancel from Breitenau
French Guinea cancel from Macenta.
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Another one that is pretty well centered. 
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I tried looking up this city on Google and couldn't find it. Might it be a cancel from a neighborhood in a larger town?
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https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10076016
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Thanks for the link, Charlie.
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Ascherbude is now Biernatowo, Poland.
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Lovely SON cancels on those United States revenue stamps.
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8 Dec 1907
Upper Senegal and Niger with a postmark from Kayes,now in Mali.
15 Dec 1894
Austria with a postmark from Trubenwasser,now Mlade Buky in the Czech Republic.
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Odoben, Gold Coast 27 Dec 1952
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11:08:54am
That Maltese cross is amazing!! Thanks for showing! How common are those large margins on the stamp?
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I knew about the Maltese Cross cancel, but never researched it.
Here's a little background information.
I like learning something new everyday.
By 1840 the British postal service had benefitted from the following measures, largely brought about by Sir Rowland Hill :
(a) a uniform postal rate throughout the UK, instead of the cost being distance related,
(b) reduced cost of sending a letter from 4d to 1d,
(c) introduction in 1840, of the world's first adhesive postage stamps, the penny black and the twopenny blue, followed a year later by the penny red.
(d) changing the responsibility for payment for letter carriage from being made by the receiver to being prepaid by the sender.
Each postmaster was required to arrange for a special rubber ‘stamp’ to be made which would then be pressed into a ink-impregnated pad before being applied to the adhesive stamp on a letter so as to “obliterate” the stamp to prevent it from being re-used. The postmaster was also responsible for mixing the ink from a recipe of components.
Initially the ‘obliterating stamps’ were used with black ink, but cleaning and re-using penny blacks became commonplace. Hence, firstly the ink was changed from black to red, but the more permanent solution was to change the adhesive from black to red and revert to using black as the obliterating ink.
The “cancellation” left behind when the rubber stamp had been applied became known as a “Maltese Cross”, although some would argue that this is not an appropriate description of the shape. This method of “cancelling” stamps with a maltese cross was used from 1840 until it was replaced by a numeral cancel, which was location dependant, in 1844.
Because the maltese cross (MX) obliterating stamps were commissioned independently it is not surprising that some became more instantly recognisable than others. The Gatehouse maltese cross would originally have looked similar to this picture : (for some reason the picture did not show up by 1898)
After about 2 years of use the central diamond had disappeared, as had much of the inner cross. This deterioration helps to identify stamps which have been cancelled by a Gatehouse MX, even if the stamp has been removed from its cover.
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Thanks for sharing that information. I learned from it.
Rowland Hill was an educator. He actually invented a new educational paradigm wherin the focus was changed so instead of inflicting corporal punishment, each student was to receive individual attention and care from the teacher. Quite the amazing person he was.
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Panama Scott# 195 with Los Santos town cancel with star.
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From my Collection: Mixed use on fragment of cover, British East Africa Stamp (Issue 1896) the Protectorate Uganda (Issue 1896), know as Missionary Stamp with variety of small "O" in "POSTAGE" and double "PROTECTORATE", both stamps with Cancellation:"MOMBASA", August 15, 1897, interesting piece!
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Interesting "I. R." in cancel!
Educational!
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From my Collection - Madagascar / French Colony, 1891 Issue - With CDS, used in ""ANTANANARIVO - MADAGASCAR"", July 21, 1891.
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Powers that be: Could we start a Show your SON (socked-on-nose) cancels #2 please? This is a bit big!!
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1902 Revenue Series both with Varnish Square's still intact.
See Pick Up Points (PUPs) arrows.
Usually the varnish square does not show on used right and proper stamps.
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SON stands for Socked-On-Nose. Generally this term comes from when stamps generally had a face on them and the goal is to get a well-centered cancel on the stamp either in general or in relation to the design.
Here are a few from my collection:
A USA Scott# 73 Andrew Jackson with a reasonably well-centered sectional cork cancel
Panama Scott# 199 with sectional cork cancel in the form of a palm tree.
Great Britain Scott# 3 with London cancel.
US Scott# 3786 with the town mark from a Universal machine cancel.
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This one was an easy find..they are all over the place !
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Heres the second..many to follow !
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#3 off hand
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I do not think i have enough time left on this earth for all the Dutch kleinsrondstempels !
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i presumed i would find a lot of Guatemala socked on nose..but they are FANCY CANCELS and overprints.
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i found 3 similar to this ..thats about it.
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I've been a SON fan for most of my adult collecting career. Here's one of my favourites, not perfection as far as SON cancels go — it fades a bit at the bottom, and is inverted — but the indicia shows that it was postmarked in Kamsack, Saskatchewan, and that's enough for me to make it special even though I'd never heard of Kamsack. But I had been learning a lot about the history of Royal Canadian Navy corvettes during the Battle of the Atlantic in the Second World War. First, here's the stamp:
And here's the exhibit page I created for the stamp:
Flower-class corvettes were first designed and built by the British to protect convoys from the depredations of German U-boats during the Battle of the Atlantic. It’s no surprise that they were named after flowers! Canadian corvettes, some of which were built in Canada, hence HMCS Kamsack. Kamsack's wartime service was not marked by any successful attacks on U-boats, if success means a permanently submerged U-boat, but the corvettes as a group were important as deterrents to Hitler's plan to starve the British isles of food and war matériel. Few U-boat commanders would dare to stay surfaced if corvettes were lurking nearby; successful torpedo attacks were normally made from surfaced U-boats.
A British corvette was named HMS Pansy when construction started, but her name was changed to Heartsease prior to launch. Which was probably a good thing. British tars wore the name of their ship on their caps; it’s not hard to imagine the brawl that might ensue in a British pub if a group of tars from HMS Pansy made their entrance, especially if sailors from HMS Minotaur or HMS Implacable were well into their cups.
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St Thomas Prince:
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Portugal #65
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Belgium 1896, Mi.65 with cancel: Brussels Dec. 9, 1896
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Love the revenues!
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Here is a link to an earlier thread on this topic.
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"Airplanes on Stamps" is my largest stamp collection. More correctly, I should call it "Aviation on Stamps". Also, it's not a topical collection, which would be limited to stamps picturing airplanes. My collection includes not just airplane topicals, but stamps showing aircraft parts (like engines, tails, engines, propellers), aircraft interiors, passengers and crew members, airports, famous aviators and aircraft designers, and even birds. I just couldn’t turn down these gorgeous, somewhat expensive, used copies of Italy Scott C28 and C32, commemorating Leonardo Da Vinci’s human-powered flying machine (which was never built, except as modern, full-scale replicas which don’t fly) and the Dante Alighieri Society:
I don’t know if those cancellations cancelled to order, but the arcs of the CDS cancellations and the arcs of the wings of Da Vinci’s man-powered flying machine are certainly complementary.
It's interesting that used copies of these stamps are valued more highly than mint copie sof the same stamps:
• According to my 2013 Scott catalogue, the 50c olive brown stamp is valued at $5.00 for a mint copy, but $14.50 for a used copy.
• The 7.70l +2l dark blue stamp is valued at $11.50 for a used copy, but $140.00 for a used copy!
The Scott values for the used stamps are printed in italics, indicating that Scott assumes that older used stamps may have modern rather than contemporaneous cancellations. The cancellations on these particular copies seem to me to be contemporaneous and genuine. Legitimate, postally used copies of these stamps seem to be quite rare; the stamps probably didn’t have large print runs.
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Costa Rica Transit Postmark:
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I've always enjoyed the non-traditional types of SONs....like those found on revenues and other BOBs .
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@Musicman
I don't understand "non-traditional types of SONs" could you give me an example as to what you are referring to?
The subject "Show your SON (socked-on-nose) cancels" which all my posting are SONs!
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'Traditional' cancels - referring to SONs are CDS's....Circular Date Stamp.
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The posting subject did not specify CDS, only SONs!
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I am aware of that.
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I have two such cancels resulted from my Stamp Out War: Support Ukraine! project: they were all applied on the 24th of August, 2022.
From Berlin, Germany:
From Chiba, Japan:
My two participants all felt sorry that the cancels were not that visible because they were on the stamps, but I think some philatelists (not necessarily maximaphilists) would consider these as the 'perfect' cancels.
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A few Mexico items. I have a particular fondness for rouletted blocks of 4. (Maybe more on this in another post if I find a few minutes to dig and scan).
Observant individuals may notice something about the cancels on these.
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Hi Roy,
I am not familiar with these "Servicio Ambulante" cancels from Mexico, what do they mean?
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"I am not familiar with these "Servicio Ambulante" cancels from Mexico, what do they mean?"
"Ambulante" = Travelling Post Office = TPO = Railway Post Office = RPO
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I thought that myself but wasn’t sure. Thanks, Roy.
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Ambulante Postmarks from Costa Rica:
Ambulante - Puntarenas
Another Ambulante - Ramal
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Leona Vicario, August 25, 1912 - Used during the Mexican Revolution.
Hungary, Palace of Budapest, CDS / Bullseye, June 30, 1933, 10f on 70f Scarlet.
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Sweden #2625c White Animals (Lepus timidus) - Issued November 19, 2009
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I was sorting through glassines like i do when i have nothing else to do (about 16 hours a day) and this one jogged my memory..i remember when it came out it was probably one of the first 3 stamps in my collection. It has a nice cancel so i will replace the one in my 1949 Scott Modern with this one.
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Belgium Sc 85 with a postmark from Porte de Flandre,Brussels
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And tomorrow's date, AngloBob!
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Perfin from Denmark with a Copenhagen postmark.
Also a Leap Year cancellation February 29 1956
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Quaker dating method, enhanced 37%
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French Guinea ,cancellation shows Knidia instead of Kindia.
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Thimble postmark from Deutsch Altenburg,Lower Austria
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Imperial Eagle of Maximilian I of Mexico. 1 real without District name, consignation and Date. Early Plate, used in Tampico in November 27, 1864 during the French Intervention. Stamps used without marks are scarce and can be identified with the Postmark
Mexico, Mail Coach stamp with CDS, "CERTIFICACION INERNACIONAL - MEXICO, D.F.", April 4, 1899. This type of Postmark are very difficult and scarce due to their little use. Regularly the name of the region or province was placed at the top.
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I have not looked at my Dutch Indies bulk lately...today i found this great socked on nose from Medan !
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Lovely squared-circle postmark from Medan, Phil.
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1856, 2 reales, Plate III - District. MEXICO, rare use - "Out of District" in TIXTLA GUERRERO. Stamps with big margins are scarce!.
Mexico, 1896 Transportation Mail Issue, 10c. Rose, Wove paper with irregular Pin perfs. 12 and Wmk.152. CDS "MEXICO, D.F. - February 27, 1896", cancellation at 7:00 p.m.. Now the Post Offices close at 3:00 p.m.
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Beautiful Mexican stamps. I'm always happy to see Latini American stamps!
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Those perfs on that second Mexico stamp are very odd. I know almost nothing about early Mexico stamps!!
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"DavidG:
RTV:
Beautiful Mexican stamps. I'm always happy to see Latini American stamps!
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Harvey:
Those perfs on that second Mexico stamp are very odd. I know almost nothing about early Mexico stamps!!
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Thanks for your comments!. The “Transportation Mail Issue” was a series with some variants in the perforations.
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Mexico - 1856, 1 real, Plate 1, pair imperforated, District; "ZACATECAS", Sub-Office: "FRESNILLO", 6 points of rarity.
Mexico, 1856, District: Zacatecas, with "A" (Aguascalientes) Postmark. From Nov/3 to Nov/30, 1858 the principal post office of Zacatecas was located in Aguascalientes.The Mexican civil war (War of the Reform 1858-61) had some of its fiercest battles in this area
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I would not consider this as a SON cancellation.
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I was looking at my Palestine Cancelations and noticed how hard it is to find a well centered SON cancelation. Mostly the circular date cancel is much bigger than the stamp, so it is very rarely well centered and confined just to the stamp. Chances are cancelations on pieces are a much better bet.
Here are a few better ones from my files:
rescanned to get photos with better focus.
rrr...
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From my Collection: Mexico, Coat of Arms (Eagle) with CDS, "OFICINA CORREOS / MAZATLAN" date: November 12, 1910, 8 days before to the start of the independence of Mexico!
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Couple more cancellations
Denmark July 13 1960 with a Copenhagen cancellation.
Mauritania June 12 1939 with a Chinguetti cancellation..
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May I ask what would you consider "SON" cancel(s)?
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Enhanced
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@1898
A postmark which is typically a circle with the date and town/city and applied in the centre of the stamp.An ideal SON cancel has the entire postmark within the margins of the stamp although this may not always be possible if the stamp is too small.
Early Austrian cancellations were smaller in diameter so they could be seen entirely on a stamp.
Example attached.
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500th Anniversary of Copenhagen University with a Copenhagen postmark.
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Stamp from Travancore (India), 1911, SON on Mi.15.
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Another wonderful SON cancellation.
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Thank you
I wonder what this one would look like if the cancel was green or blue color.
I have more to share.
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Not IAW Treasury directive of 1899
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Bills of Lading
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Any questions, address questions to"1898", I do not read all posting!
(Special Note: On this reissue the watermarks are easier to detect)
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Cyprus, rural cancel Kalopanayoti
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Austrian Military Post
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Austria with cancel from Breitenau
French Guinea cancel from Macenta.
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Another one that is pretty well centered.
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I tried looking up this city on Google and couldn't find it. Might it be a cancel from a neighborhood in a larger town?
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https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10076016
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Thanks for the link, Charlie.
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Ascherbude is now Biernatowo, Poland.
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Lovely SON cancels on those United States revenue stamps.
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8 Dec 1907
Upper Senegal and Niger with a postmark from Kayes,now in Mali.
15 Dec 1894
Austria with a postmark from Trubenwasser,now Mlade Buky in the Czech Republic.
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Odoben, Gold Coast 27 Dec 1952
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That Maltese cross is amazing!! Thanks for showing! How common are those large margins on the stamp?
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I knew about the Maltese Cross cancel, but never researched it.
Here's a little background information.
I like learning something new everyday.
By 1840 the British postal service had benefitted from the following measures, largely brought about by Sir Rowland Hill :
(a) a uniform postal rate throughout the UK, instead of the cost being distance related,
(b) reduced cost of sending a letter from 4d to 1d,
(c) introduction in 1840, of the world's first adhesive postage stamps, the penny black and the twopenny blue, followed a year later by the penny red.
(d) changing the responsibility for payment for letter carriage from being made by the receiver to being prepaid by the sender.
Each postmaster was required to arrange for a special rubber ‘stamp’ to be made which would then be pressed into a ink-impregnated pad before being applied to the adhesive stamp on a letter so as to “obliterate” the stamp to prevent it from being re-used. The postmaster was also responsible for mixing the ink from a recipe of components.
Initially the ‘obliterating stamps’ were used with black ink, but cleaning and re-using penny blacks became commonplace. Hence, firstly the ink was changed from black to red, but the more permanent solution was to change the adhesive from black to red and revert to using black as the obliterating ink.
The “cancellation” left behind when the rubber stamp had been applied became known as a “Maltese Cross”, although some would argue that this is not an appropriate description of the shape. This method of “cancelling” stamps with a maltese cross was used from 1840 until it was replaced by a numeral cancel, which was location dependant, in 1844.
Because the maltese cross (MX) obliterating stamps were commissioned independently it is not surprising that some became more instantly recognisable than others. The Gatehouse maltese cross would originally have looked similar to this picture : (for some reason the picture did not show up by 1898)
After about 2 years of use the central diamond had disappeared, as had much of the inner cross. This deterioration helps to identify stamps which have been cancelled by a Gatehouse MX, even if the stamp has been removed from its cover.
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Thanks for sharing that information. I learned from it.
Rowland Hill was an educator. He actually invented a new educational paradigm wherin the focus was changed so instead of inflicting corporal punishment, each student was to receive individual attention and care from the teacher. Quite the amazing person he was.
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Panama Scott# 195 with Los Santos town cancel with star.
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From my Collection: Mixed use on fragment of cover, British East Africa Stamp (Issue 1896) the Protectorate Uganda (Issue 1896), know as Missionary Stamp with variety of small "O" in "POSTAGE" and double "PROTECTORATE", both stamps with Cancellation:"MOMBASA", August 15, 1897, interesting piece!
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Interesting "I. R." in cancel!
Educational!
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From my Collection - Madagascar / French Colony, 1891 Issue - With CDS, used in ""ANTANANARIVO - MADAGASCAR"", July 21, 1891.
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Powers that be: Could we start a Show your SON (socked-on-nose) cancels #2 please? This is a bit big!!
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1902 Revenue Series both with Varnish Square's still intact.
See Pick Up Points (PUPs) arrows.
Usually the varnish square does not show on used right and proper stamps.
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