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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

 

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03 Jun 2023
06:05:10pm
My wife and I sold on E-Bay not too long after it started and things were much simpler then!! People now talk about their "Global Shipping" as if E-Bay handles the shipping for the seller. What I don't understand is... How in heck do they get your item? Do you have to deliver it to a certain central location because shipping it to them makes no sense what-so-ever. I must be very dense but I can't figure this out at all!!
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Brechinite

03 Jun 2023
06:48:36pm

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re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"Do you have to deliver it to a certain central location"



My understanding is YES.

Ebay want to control everything and charge sellers more and more and with ebay having control over shipping they can charge buyers more and more.

Remember ebay gets a percentage on everything now.

They now control payments as well. Sellers have to nominate when they get paid and if they nominate weekly ebay can then play the money market with what is sellers money!

We have a saying in Old Caledonia "Aye there's nothing like hooks, crooks and comic singers"
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04 Jun 2023
08:51:36pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

Global Shipping Program, name soon to be changed, simplifies the process for international shipping. eBay deals with the logistics and customs and lost or damaged item claims are resolved in your favor. You ship to a domestic shipping center which is a piece of cake, although there are country limits, weight and cost, and banned countries, so it’s something to look into. Rather than characterizing this as somehow less than above board, this is a service that simplifies things for the seller. Services are not free, nor should they be, but the costs are still insertion fees and final sales fees. But if you sell inexpensive items it’s probably not worth it. You can always opt out. Search for “eBay global shipping program” in Google and the EBay page is right at the top.

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07 Jun 2023
06:15:46pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I hate to ask, but what is it you don't understand ????

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07 Jun 2023
06:26:00pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I didn't understand how E-Bay got your item so they could take it over using their Global Shipping. That has been been explained and now I realize that you have to send your items to local centers. I'm still not sure how these centers are distributed to allow rural people to have access. Surely it is just as much of a pain shipping to these centers as it would be shipping to the customer. It really only makes sense if you can send them multiple items or if the center were close enough to make actual delivery possible!

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07 Jun 2023
07:54:54pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I received an item last week from a dealer in New Jersey who used the Global Shipping Program. As Ebay has no way of tracking anything, they showed in the tracking that it was Out for Delivery two nights in a row in another city.

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07 Jun 2023
10:51:56pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I would hazard to guess, Global Shipping Program option, I believe to be renamed International Shipping in July, is not the option to use for domestic sales. Otherwise you could be shipping to a buyer next door through a fulfillment center hundreds of miles away. It only makes sense for international shipping as the benefits only relate to international shipping. It does seem confusing.

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07 Jun 2023
11:13:26pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

It's a ridiculous method to get stamps to customers. The cost to post to Australia can be between $20-$30 for a 10c sale. I don't buy from anyone daft enough to use this "service". Clearly their focus is on simplifying to their processes to the detriment of their customers.

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08 Jun 2023
03:41:48am
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

''... Clearly their focus is on simplifying to their processes to the detriment of their customers. ...''

That's E-BAY.
The shock wore off many moons ago.

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08 Jun 2023
08:30:41am
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

Another reason to buy and sell on Stamporama.

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08 Jun 2023
11:53:41am
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"It's a ridiculous method to get stamps to customers. The cost to post to Australia can be between $20-$30 for a 10c sale. I don't buy from anyone daft enough to use this "service". Clearly their focus is on simplifying to their processes to the detriment of their customers."



Absolutely, I couldn't agree more, even here in neighbouring Canada I regularly see listings for one or two cheap stamps with Global Shipping quoted at US$20 to $30
If I really want an item though, I will try to contact the seller, as in some cases they don't even realise that they are part of the Global Shipping programme and are happy to send via USPS instead.

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michael78651

08 Jun 2023
10:33:56pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I rarely sell on Ebay any more. When I was, and when they started the Global Shipping, if you indicated that you shipped internationally, the Global Shipping option was defaulted to yes. You had to go into the listing and unmark it. I don't know if they changed that.

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10 Jun 2023
03:00:35pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

You can opt out completely and you can remove individual listings from the program. If selling inexpensive terms that would not benefit from international logistics or conflict resolution, e.g., because the item isn’t worth much, then don’t use the program. If buying inexpensive items then maybe don’t bid if shipping costs are expensive or if seller is international.

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Harvey
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10 Jun 2023
03:35:06pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"If buying inexpensive items then maybe don’t bid if shipping costs are expensiv"


I don't! I often see items where the shipping is significantly more than the cost of the item. I'm really not sure how these sellers expect to sell those items. Occasionally if I really would like to have the item I contact the seller and sometimes he reduces the shipping cost. I guess he/she must take that item out of Global Shipping, or whatever they call it now. But quite often I don't hear back and the item just sits there!!
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10 Jun 2023
03:53:04pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"I'm really not sure how these sellers expect to sell those items."



It's simply because they are focused on their US market and their attitude is that they don't care about international sales, or they feel international sales are too much of a pain to ship, but if someone wants to pay for it, and ebay handles it for them, so be it.

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10 Jun 2023
04:35:03pm
re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

Good points Roy! I keep forgetting about the international aspect of all of this. I guess it saves them the hassle of stating that they will only sell in their own country!

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
03 Jun 2023
06:05:10pm

My wife and I sold on E-Bay not too long after it started and things were much simpler then!! People now talk about their "Global Shipping" as if E-Bay handles the shipping for the seller. What I don't understand is... How in heck do they get your item? Do you have to deliver it to a certain central location because shipping it to them makes no sense what-so-ever. I must be very dense but I can't figure this out at all!!

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Brechinite

03 Jun 2023
06:48:36pm

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re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"Do you have to deliver it to a certain central location"



My understanding is YES.

Ebay want to control everything and charge sellers more and more and with ebay having control over shipping they can charge buyers more and more.

Remember ebay gets a percentage on everything now.

They now control payments as well. Sellers have to nominate when they get paid and if they nominate weekly ebay can then play the money market with what is sellers money!

We have a saying in Old Caledonia "Aye there's nothing like hooks, crooks and comic singers"
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04 Jun 2023
08:51:36pm

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

Global Shipping Program, name soon to be changed, simplifies the process for international shipping. eBay deals with the logistics and customs and lost or damaged item claims are resolved in your favor. You ship to a domestic shipping center which is a piece of cake, although there are country limits, weight and cost, and banned countries, so it’s something to look into. Rather than characterizing this as somehow less than above board, this is a service that simplifies things for the seller. Services are not free, nor should they be, but the costs are still insertion fees and final sales fees. But if you sell inexpensive items it’s probably not worth it. You can always opt out. Search for “eBay global shipping program” in Google and the EBay page is right at the top.

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re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I hate to ask, but what is it you don't understand ????

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07 Jun 2023
06:26:00pm

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I didn't understand how E-Bay got your item so they could take it over using their Global Shipping. That has been been explained and now I realize that you have to send your items to local centers. I'm still not sure how these centers are distributed to allow rural people to have access. Surely it is just as much of a pain shipping to these centers as it would be shipping to the customer. It really only makes sense if you can send them multiple items or if the center were close enough to make actual delivery possible!

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07 Jun 2023
07:54:54pm

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I received an item last week from a dealer in New Jersey who used the Global Shipping Program. As Ebay has no way of tracking anything, they showed in the tracking that it was Out for Delivery two nights in a row in another city.

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07 Jun 2023
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re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I would hazard to guess, Global Shipping Program option, I believe to be renamed International Shipping in July, is not the option to use for domestic sales. Otherwise you could be shipping to a buyer next door through a fulfillment center hundreds of miles away. It only makes sense for international shipping as the benefits only relate to international shipping. It does seem confusing.

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07 Jun 2023
11:13:26pm

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

It's a ridiculous method to get stamps to customers. The cost to post to Australia can be between $20-$30 for a 10c sale. I don't buy from anyone daft enough to use this "service". Clearly their focus is on simplifying to their processes to the detriment of their customers.

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08 Jun 2023
03:41:48am

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

''... Clearly their focus is on simplifying to their processes to the detriment of their customers. ...''

That's E-BAY.
The shock wore off many moons ago.

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08 Jun 2023
08:30:41am

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

Another reason to buy and sell on Stamporama.

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08 Jun 2023
11:53:41am

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"It's a ridiculous method to get stamps to customers. The cost to post to Australia can be between $20-$30 for a 10c sale. I don't buy from anyone daft enough to use this "service". Clearly their focus is on simplifying to their processes to the detriment of their customers."



Absolutely, I couldn't agree more, even here in neighbouring Canada I regularly see listings for one or two cheap stamps with Global Shipping quoted at US$20 to $30
If I really want an item though, I will try to contact the seller, as in some cases they don't even realise that they are part of the Global Shipping programme and are happy to send via USPS instead.

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michael78651

08 Jun 2023
10:33:56pm

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

I rarely sell on Ebay any more. When I was, and when they started the Global Shipping, if you indicated that you shipped internationally, the Global Shipping option was defaulted to yes. You had to go into the listing and unmark it. I don't know if they changed that.

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10 Jun 2023
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re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

You can opt out completely and you can remove individual listings from the program. If selling inexpensive terms that would not benefit from international logistics or conflict resolution, e.g., because the item isn’t worth much, then don’t use the program. If buying inexpensive items then maybe don’t bid if shipping costs are expensive or if seller is international.

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re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"If buying inexpensive items then maybe don’t bid if shipping costs are expensiv"


I don't! I often see items where the shipping is significantly more than the cost of the item. I'm really not sure how these sellers expect to sell those items. Occasionally if I really would like to have the item I contact the seller and sometimes he reduces the shipping cost. I guess he/she must take that item out of Global Shipping, or whatever they call it now. But quite often I don't hear back and the item just sits there!!
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10 Jun 2023
03:53:04pm

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

"I'm really not sure how these sellers expect to sell those items."



It's simply because they are focused on their US market and their attitude is that they don't care about international sales, or they feel international sales are too much of a pain to ship, but if someone wants to pay for it, and ebay handles it for them, so be it.

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04:35:03pm

re: Something about E-Bay I don't understand!

Good points Roy! I keep forgetting about the international aspect of all of this. I guess it saves them the hassle of stating that they will only sell in their own country!

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