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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Great Britain #3's

 

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Mike

04 May 2023
03:33:55pm
I have been collecting stamps a very long time, but rarely get into the odds and ends and miscellaneous offbeat collecting, but just prefer to have one of each stamp and so on and so forth! Having found some sheets of #3's I picked up somewhere in time and finally taking a good look at them I find some are labeled to show a plate number, to my surprise. I had never heard of such a thing before about that. My question is how do you determine the plate number for each #3 stamp? I do have a SG catalogue, but it is not a specialized, so there isn't much help there. I guess that is the reason they basically start printing the #33's and actually showing the plate numbers.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Not really being a treky, I usually show my support by celebrating the Forth with a Fifth! Then tomorrow it's a repeat since it is Cinco de Mayo! I may not be working on stamps much for a couple of days!!!

Mike
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04 May 2023
04:46:30pm
re: Great Britain #3's

Can you clarify which stamp you are referring to, illustration number 3 (2d Blue) or the penny black which is stamp number 3 in the Concise.

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04 May 2023
04:48:03pm
re: Great Britain #3's

He is most likely referring to the imperf penny red. You need a specialized catalog to determine plate numbers on those (or any imperf GB stamps). I am not sure which one you need as it is not my area.

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04 May 2023
05:55:49pm
re: Great Britain #3's

Please provide a scanned readable image!

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05 May 2023
09:21:41am
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Once again I was thinking only of the Scott's catalog since I am in the USA, I'm sorry for my singlemindedness. I also do have some specialized foreign, to me, catalog's, but have never needed a GB specialized before, so just haven't bothered to acquire one. The stamps I am referring to are the 1841 red brown issues that are perfed 11. The famous penny reds are the #33's and I have found a bunch of them and those plate numbers are on the vertical perf area.

I must have been thinking about that fifth that I still haven't open, which means I now have two to work on today. Happy Cinco de Mayo!!!!

Here I am sitting typing this on my computer and my phone rings, which it hardly ever does. It was my wife calling to tell me "good morning" from the cruise ship that left from Ft. Lauderdale late yesterday and are heading to Grand Cayman as their first port of call. She invited our granddaughter from Seattle to go with her since we have taken the local grandkids with us numerous times and she is now on her first cruise and in awe of the ship. Their next ports are the A,B,C islands off the coast of Venezuela.

Thank you to the responders and I may just see about buying a GB specialized!

Mike

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05 May 2023
02:57:06pm
re: Great Britain #3's

Plating these is just like plating the Penny Blacks. In fact, the early ones were printed with the Penny Black plates.

Identifying the plate is a matter of identifying certain minute characteristics known for each position of the stamp in each plate. There are much more specialized books available, but this is where I would start:

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Be warned, it is a very complicated field of study.

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05 May 2023
04:24:12pm
re: Great Britain #3's

Roy,
Thank you for that explanation, but I am not that particularly enthused with getting that serious about any stamp, nor do I have the time or patience for it, particularly since I have joined the Octogenarian club. I am just a happy little camper to just have one of each stamp in each space of the album. That is as much of a challenge for me at this time of my life. I quit collecting WW about 25 years ago, in hopes of improving the countries I wanted to keep and have swapped or sold most of the ones that were chopped, which has worked out for the better for the collections I chose to keep.
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04 May 2023
03:33:55pm

I have been collecting stamps a very long time, but rarely get into the odds and ends and miscellaneous offbeat collecting, but just prefer to have one of each stamp and so on and so forth! Having found some sheets of #3's I picked up somewhere in time and finally taking a good look at them I find some are labeled to show a plate number, to my surprise. I had never heard of such a thing before about that. My question is how do you determine the plate number for each #3 stamp? I do have a SG catalogue, but it is not a specialized, so there isn't much help there. I guess that is the reason they basically start printing the #33's and actually showing the plate numbers.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Not really being a treky, I usually show my support by celebrating the Forth with a Fifth! Then tomorrow it's a repeat since it is Cinco de Mayo! I may not be working on stamps much for a couple of days!!!

Mike

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04 May 2023
04:46:30pm

re: Great Britain #3's

Can you clarify which stamp you are referring to, illustration number 3 (2d Blue) or the penny black which is stamp number 3 in the Concise.

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04 May 2023
04:48:03pm

re: Great Britain #3's

He is most likely referring to the imperf penny red. You need a specialized catalog to determine plate numbers on those (or any imperf GB stamps). I am not sure which one you need as it is not my area.

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04 May 2023
05:55:49pm

re: Great Britain #3's

Please provide a scanned readable image!

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05 May 2023
09:21:41am

re: Great Britain #3's

Once again I was thinking only of the Scott's catalog since I am in the USA, I'm sorry for my singlemindedness. I also do have some specialized foreign, to me, catalog's, but have never needed a GB specialized before, so just haven't bothered to acquire one. The stamps I am referring to are the 1841 red brown issues that are perfed 11. The famous penny reds are the #33's and I have found a bunch of them and those plate numbers are on the vertical perf area.

I must have been thinking about that fifth that I still haven't open, which means I now have two to work on today. Happy Cinco de Mayo!!!!

Here I am sitting typing this on my computer and my phone rings, which it hardly ever does. It was my wife calling to tell me "good morning" from the cruise ship that left from Ft. Lauderdale late yesterday and are heading to Grand Cayman as their first port of call. She invited our granddaughter from Seattle to go with her since we have taken the local grandkids with us numerous times and she is now on her first cruise and in awe of the ship. Their next ports are the A,B,C islands off the coast of Venezuela.

Thank you to the responders and I may just see about buying a GB specialized!

Mike

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05 May 2023
02:57:06pm

re: Great Britain #3's

Plating these is just like plating the Penny Blacks. In fact, the early ones were printed with the Penny Black plates.

Identifying the plate is a matter of identifying certain minute characteristics known for each position of the stamp in each plate. There are much more specialized books available, but this is where I would start:

Image Not Found
Image Not Found

Be warned, it is a very complicated field of study.

Roy

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Mike
05 May 2023
04:24:12pm

re: Great Britain #3's

Roy,
Thank you for that explanation, but I am not that particularly enthused with getting that serious about any stamp, nor do I have the time or patience for it, particularly since I have joined the Octogenarian club. I am just a happy little camper to just have one of each stamp in each space of the album. That is as much of a challenge for me at this time of my life. I quit collecting WW about 25 years ago, in hopes of improving the countries I wanted to keep and have swapped or sold most of the ones that were chopped, which has worked out for the better for the collections I chose to keep.
Mike

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