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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Is this overprint a fake?

 

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bigcreekdad
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22 Apr 2023
05:49:54pm
It's the "Protectorate" that just doesn't look right. Maybe just me.


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1898

22 Apr 2023
06:35:50pm
re: Is this overprint a fake?

Not my area, but how does is not look right, too bad it's damaged!

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22 Apr 2023
06:44:05pm
re: Is this overprint a fake?

"too bad it's damaged!"


I see a small crease. It's unfortunate but I could live with it, unless I'm missing something else!
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Brechinite

22 Apr 2023
06:55:00pm

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re: Is this overprint a fake?

It looks like Scott 53.

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23 Apr 2023
08:45:52am
re: Is this overprint a fake?

Here is the rear. Small crease UR (from rear pic). Other than that....where is damage?






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Benque

23 Apr 2023
10:06:31am
re: Is this overprint a fake?

I have the same stamp, which I acquired from a dealer's approval lot in 2016, for CDN $24.07. I liked the stamp so much, that I didn't quibble over the cost. My copy is MNH, edit: Used, VF. Upon comparing to yours, I notice the "P" in Protectorate is higher than the rest of the word by very close to the same amount. Also, that word in the overprint looks to be of the same quality of print and position as in yours, compared to "British" and "Bechuanaland" which, also like yours are well defined. I have no idea if mine is genuine, but if I worried about every slightly "off" stamp in my collection, I'd have no collection Big Grin

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DaveSheridan
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23 Apr 2023
11:05:13am
re: Is this overprint a fake?

The raised P is a known variety, the overprint looks just fine to me

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bigcreekdad
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23 Apr 2023
11:06:34am
re: Is this overprint a fake?

Ben...so if yours is the same, I guess we can both somewhat safely assume they are legit. Thanks.

As an aside, it quite irritates me when someone (1898) throws a negative (to me anyway) into a query that has nothing to do with the question at hand.

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23 Apr 2023
11:22:32am
re: Is this overprint a fake?

"As an aside, it quite irritates me when someone (1898) throws a negative (to me anyway) into a query that has nothing to do with the question at hand."


I agree!! Even if the stamp was damaged, which it isn't, that has nothing to do with your question!!
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clivel
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23 Apr 2023
12:47:23pm
re: Is this overprint a fake?

It is almost certainly genuine.
Stamps of GB overprinted British Bechuanaland, subsequently overprinted Protectorate, hence the different typefaces.

SG lists three different overprints SG40, 54 and 55 plus varieties such as overprint doubled, inverted etc. The cheapest of the three is listed mint at £13, the most expensive £225, used are much higher with the cheapest listed at £50.

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1898

23 Apr 2023
12:48:16pm
re: Is this overprint a fake?

@bigcreekdad, I was wrong, you were right I should not have added it was damaged!

@Harvey, you are correct it is not a damaged stamp I was wrong!

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23 Apr 2023
01:05:01pm
re: Is this overprint a fake?

1898...thanks man! No problems.

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23 Apr 2023
05:13:19pm
re: Is this overprint a fake?

I see a line on the front upper left corner that appears to be a crease. Is that part of the design?
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bigcreekdad

22 Apr 2023
05:49:54pm

It's the "Protectorate" that just doesn't look right. Maybe just me.


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1898

22 Apr 2023
06:35:50pm

re: Is this overprint a fake?

Not my area, but how does is not look right, too bad it's damaged!

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22 Apr 2023
06:44:05pm

re: Is this overprint a fake?

"too bad it's damaged!"


I see a small crease. It's unfortunate but I could live with it, unless I'm missing something else!
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22 Apr 2023
06:55:00pm

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re: Is this overprint a fake?

It looks like Scott 53.

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23 Apr 2023
08:45:52am

re: Is this overprint a fake?

Here is the rear. Small crease UR (from rear pic). Other than that....where is damage?






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Benque

23 Apr 2023
10:06:31am

re: Is this overprint a fake?

I have the same stamp, which I acquired from a dealer's approval lot in 2016, for CDN $24.07. I liked the stamp so much, that I didn't quibble over the cost. My copy is MNH, edit: Used, VF. Upon comparing to yours, I notice the "P" in Protectorate is higher than the rest of the word by very close to the same amount. Also, that word in the overprint looks to be of the same quality of print and position as in yours, compared to "British" and "Bechuanaland" which, also like yours are well defined. I have no idea if mine is genuine, but if I worried about every slightly "off" stamp in my collection, I'd have no collection Big Grin

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23 Apr 2023
11:05:13am

re: Is this overprint a fake?

The raised P is a known variety, the overprint looks just fine to me

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bigcreekdad

23 Apr 2023
11:06:34am

re: Is this overprint a fake?

Ben...so if yours is the same, I guess we can both somewhat safely assume they are legit. Thanks.

As an aside, it quite irritates me when someone (1898) throws a negative (to me anyway) into a query that has nothing to do with the question at hand.

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23 Apr 2023
11:22:32am

re: Is this overprint a fake?

"As an aside, it quite irritates me when someone (1898) throws a negative (to me anyway) into a query that has nothing to do with the question at hand."


I agree!! Even if the stamp was damaged, which it isn't, that has nothing to do with your question!!
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clivel

23 Apr 2023
12:47:23pm

re: Is this overprint a fake?

It is almost certainly genuine.
Stamps of GB overprinted British Bechuanaland, subsequently overprinted Protectorate, hence the different typefaces.

SG lists three different overprints SG40, 54 and 55 plus varieties such as overprint doubled, inverted etc. The cheapest of the three is listed mint at £13, the most expensive £225, used are much higher with the cheapest listed at £50.

Clive


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1898

23 Apr 2023
12:48:16pm

re: Is this overprint a fake?

@bigcreekdad, I was wrong, you were right I should not have added it was damaged!

@Harvey, you are correct it is not a damaged stamp I was wrong!

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23 Apr 2023
01:05:01pm

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1898...thanks man! No problems.

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vinman

23 Apr 2023
05:13:19pm

re: Is this overprint a fake?

I see a line on the front upper left corner that appears to be a crease. Is that part of the design?
Vince

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