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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

 

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08 Mar 2023
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I have been on my own for quite a while now and am realizing how little it takes to make me happy - a purring cat, watching birds at a bird feeder, seeing a deer when you're out for a drive, etc. Also right up there is filling a page in a stamp album. I am an old school stamp collector and am a firm believer in the old fashioned album. I got a series of Russian stamps in the mail today that filled a page in my Minkus album. I stared at the page for a minute or two and actually came back to look at it a few more times today. It made me realize that I had a better feeling now about that page - a feeling that I accomplished something! Of course some pages will never be filled - the page in my Russian album where the only stamp missing is a $10 000+ overprint, the page in my Canada album containing #32 with only 3 in existence, the Canada page with the Port Hood Provisionals and there are many more examples. There were pages that were difficult to fill, but it was done! There was a page in the Minkus Poland album that had a horizontal overprint instead of a diagonal one. That was filled because someone here had it for sale. There were the pages in the US album with the Trans-Mississippi and Columbian series that were filled because one of you offered the higher values at prices I could (barely) afford. There are pages that should be filled but I decided they weren't. All the Canada BOB pages that were filled until I thought "How about all the "G" errors, all those strange diagonally overprinted War Tax stamps and we can't ignore the cracked plated for the officials", they'd look great on those pages. I'd really like to find a reasonably priced US #13, K16 or C15 so I can fill those three pages!!! Filling pages is a lot of fun!! Now if I designed my own pages like some of you do, gaps would be much easier to take care of, just redesign the page so the gap just goes away. Honestly, I really can't see the fun in that. Please excuse the long winded rant. It just seemed like something that I had to say!
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09 Mar 2023
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"Filling pages is a lot of fun!! Now if I designed my own pages like some of you do, gaps would be much easier to take care of, just redesign the page so the gap just goes away."



Actually, I started designing my own pages for exactly the opposite reason, I was finding pre-printed albums too restrictive as they didn't offer spaces for the varieties that I collect, many of which are catalogued.

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09 Mar 2023
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Valid, and great, point Clive!! I put that stuff next to the stamp or on spare pages. It doesn't stop me from picking the stuff up. Actually I just got back from the mail. One of the envelopes will contain more than 100 trident overprints for The Ukraine that have to be figured out - eventually!! And the other one is going to contain a large bunch of Canada varieties that have to be mounted near their corresponding stamps. Thankfully my Harris Canada Album has large margins (sort of like the Small Queen Jumbos we discussed in another thread) and spare pages! A self designed album would make sense but, even though it crowds things a bit, I like it better this way! I guess we're all different!

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09 Mar 2023
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I’m with you, Clive - I collect too many varieties, cancels, multiples, covers, mint/used for any preprinted album to ever work. Even printing my own pages would be problematic because I’m always on the lookout for new oddities to add. So Hagnar and Vario sheets it is! I sure do love not having to monkey around with mounts or hinges, too. In the long run, when you figure in all the expenses with printers, paper, yadda yadda, I think they end up being cheaper. Heck, you can even sell gently used ones. I’d gladly pay a premium for collections arranged on loose leaf pages like those.

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10 Mar 2023
05:29:32am
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For modern material, there are often easy to get or affordable modern varieties that will never have a space in a pre-printed album.

I moved to Mystic back in the early 90's (yipe!) in part because it was 8½ x 11 inch format so easy to print pages on a standard printer and easy to obtain and reasonable matching paper. I find it odd the "specialized" albums are expensive but what really hurts is that they are not really more specialized.

On this page it was 10 minor varieties where a Scott/Mystic would only have 4.

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10 Mar 2023
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I recently found out that there are over 80 varieties of these liberty bell stamps, after checking a pile of duplicates I was able to ID 63 of them, I would like to know which preprinted album has all of them. I'm not fond of preprinted albums, I did used some in the past but as far I'm concern they are useless.

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10 Mar 2023
10:50:52am
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I chuckle to myself every time I look through my Scott National Album and come to the page for a single inverted Jenny. I should probably remove it but what the heck--you can always dream.

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10 Mar 2023
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I think I’ve found all the bells except for one ATM and the thin printing is trickier to ID if on paper. Here’s my scribbled cheat sheet if anyone is interested.



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Part of mine with one of each perforation variety. There are 6, 9 or 18 perforation varieties for each type, too, so there are a boatload of bells!

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10 Mar 2023
12:43:28pm
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Scott provides spaces for stamps that 99% will ever own and if I did own it I am not sure I would leave in the album!

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10 Mar 2023
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"One of the envelopes will contain more than 100 trident overprints for The Ukraine that have to be figured out - eventually!!"



Harvey, I hope whatever you find out about these you will post. I have a bunch of these, myself.
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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

Hi Ted You might have to wait a while!! I want to get more before I actually get started and it's going to be a big time job. There are, as far as I can figure, at least 13 different versions of the overprint and some of them are very similar. I also think I'm going to try to find copies of the Stanley Gibbons pages to mount them in because they seem to have a better organized area for these stamps in their catalog. We are talking months but when I get the pages and have my stamps on those pages I will post photos. My eyes and patience are not as good as they used to be so this might be more than I can manage - I really hope not though!!! My Minkus Russian album has these different regions in their area for The Ukraine but I really don't like their setup.

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11 Mar 2023
01:24:57pm
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I have been collecting for over 50 years and have never used pre-printed album pages. In the past I made pages for Stanley Gibbons albums, for GB stamps particularly Machin specialized, using an IBM Selectric typewriter. Worked well and was better than other typewriters without the ability to change fonts (this was before computers and inkjet printers. Now I create my own pages using MS Word and a colour inkjet printer with 11 x 8 quadrille paper. I just love the flexibility I have to design pages that suit any particular layout I wish to create and the ability to add graphics if warranted.

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11 Mar 2023
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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

We all collect differently, and that's good! I have no idea why I am such a strong believer in pre-done albums. Part of it was that when my wife and I started collecting in the early 1970's that's all we knew. And I guess we just stayed with that. My albums are very dear to me now since they contain the original notations we made at the beginning. Each to his/her own. But, all this being said, I'd still love to find those Ukraine pages from a SG album before I start mounting the stamps in my Minkus album. Can anyone help?

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12 Mar 2023
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I give up using an album 40 years ago, Scott Specility Album just too confining.

I built my own pages for a few years.

Now it Vario pages


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10 Apr 2023
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I think everyone here knows how I do my albums! Hey I like my material the way I want it. When I find something cool, I can always add it to my collection. There are no rules!

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11 Apr 2023
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I do not know what i would do without the stamps and covers...they were always a solace in trying times.

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11 Apr 2023
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Great presentation, Tom (BenFranklin). I just love looking at collections that include covers, varieties, multiples and so on. Beautiful and so interesting! I wish I could browse through that entire album.

I think the Texas cover you picked is cool - more interesting to see a smaller town cancel like “Gonzales”. Nice stuff!

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15 Apr 2023
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Thanks Theresa!

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08 Mar 2023
09:41:38pm

I have been on my own for quite a while now and am realizing how little it takes to make me happy - a purring cat, watching birds at a bird feeder, seeing a deer when you're out for a drive, etc. Also right up there is filling a page in a stamp album. I am an old school stamp collector and am a firm believer in the old fashioned album. I got a series of Russian stamps in the mail today that filled a page in my Minkus album. I stared at the page for a minute or two and actually came back to look at it a few more times today. It made me realize that I had a better feeling now about that page - a feeling that I accomplished something! Of course some pages will never be filled - the page in my Russian album where the only stamp missing is a $10 000+ overprint, the page in my Canada album containing #32 with only 3 in existence, the Canada page with the Port Hood Provisionals and there are many more examples. There were pages that were difficult to fill, but it was done! There was a page in the Minkus Poland album that had a horizontal overprint instead of a diagonal one. That was filled because someone here had it for sale. There were the pages in the US album with the Trans-Mississippi and Columbian series that were filled because one of you offered the higher values at prices I could (barely) afford. There are pages that should be filled but I decided they weren't. All the Canada BOB pages that were filled until I thought "How about all the "G" errors, all those strange diagonally overprinted War Tax stamps and we can't ignore the cracked plated for the officials", they'd look great on those pages. I'd really like to find a reasonably priced US #13, K16 or C15 so I can fill those three pages!!! Filling pages is a lot of fun!! Now if I designed my own pages like some of you do, gaps would be much easier to take care of, just redesign the page so the gap just goes away. Honestly, I really can't see the fun in that. Please excuse the long winded rant. It just seemed like something that I had to say!

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09 Mar 2023
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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

"Filling pages is a lot of fun!! Now if I designed my own pages like some of you do, gaps would be much easier to take care of, just redesign the page so the gap just goes away."



Actually, I started designing my own pages for exactly the opposite reason, I was finding pre-printed albums too restrictive as they didn't offer spaces for the varieties that I collect, many of which are catalogued.

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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

Valid, and great, point Clive!! I put that stuff next to the stamp or on spare pages. It doesn't stop me from picking the stuff up. Actually I just got back from the mail. One of the envelopes will contain more than 100 trident overprints for The Ukraine that have to be figured out - eventually!! And the other one is going to contain a large bunch of Canada varieties that have to be mounted near their corresponding stamps. Thankfully my Harris Canada Album has large margins (sort of like the Small Queen Jumbos we discussed in another thread) and spare pages! A self designed album would make sense but, even though it crowds things a bit, I like it better this way! I guess we're all different!

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09 Mar 2023
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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

I’m with you, Clive - I collect too many varieties, cancels, multiples, covers, mint/used for any preprinted album to ever work. Even printing my own pages would be problematic because I’m always on the lookout for new oddities to add. So Hagnar and Vario sheets it is! I sure do love not having to monkey around with mounts or hinges, too. In the long run, when you figure in all the expenses with printers, paper, yadda yadda, I think they end up being cheaper. Heck, you can even sell gently used ones. I’d gladly pay a premium for collections arranged on loose leaf pages like those.

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10 Mar 2023
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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

For modern material, there are often easy to get or affordable modern varieties that will never have a space in a pre-printed album.

I moved to Mystic back in the early 90's (yipe!) in part because it was 8½ x 11 inch format so easy to print pages on a standard printer and easy to obtain and reasonable matching paper. I find it odd the "specialized" albums are expensive but what really hurts is that they are not really more specialized.

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10 Mar 2023
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I recently found out that there are over 80 varieties of these liberty bell stamps, after checking a pile of duplicates I was able to ID 63 of them, I would like to know which preprinted album has all of them. I'm not fond of preprinted albums, I did used some in the past but as far I'm concern they are useless.

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I chuckle to myself every time I look through my Scott National Album and come to the page for a single inverted Jenny. I should probably remove it but what the heck--you can always dream.

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I think I’ve found all the bells except for one ATM and the thin printing is trickier to ID if on paper. Here’s my scribbled cheat sheet if anyone is interested.



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Part of mine with one of each perforation variety. There are 6, 9 or 18 perforation varieties for each type, too, so there are a boatload of bells!

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Scott provides spaces for stamps that 99% will ever own and if I did own it I am not sure I would leave in the album!

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"One of the envelopes will contain more than 100 trident overprints for The Ukraine that have to be figured out - eventually!!"



Harvey, I hope whatever you find out about these you will post. I have a bunch of these, myself.
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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

Hi Ted You might have to wait a while!! I want to get more before I actually get started and it's going to be a big time job. There are, as far as I can figure, at least 13 different versions of the overprint and some of them are very similar. I also think I'm going to try to find copies of the Stanley Gibbons pages to mount them in because they seem to have a better organized area for these stamps in their catalog. We are talking months but when I get the pages and have my stamps on those pages I will post photos. My eyes and patience are not as good as they used to be so this might be more than I can manage - I really hope not though!!! My Minkus Russian album has these different regions in their area for The Ukraine but I really don't like their setup.

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I have been collecting for over 50 years and have never used pre-printed album pages. In the past I made pages for Stanley Gibbons albums, for GB stamps particularly Machin specialized, using an IBM Selectric typewriter. Worked well and was better than other typewriters without the ability to change fonts (this was before computers and inkjet printers. Now I create my own pages using MS Word and a colour inkjet printer with 11 x 8 quadrille paper. I just love the flexibility I have to design pages that suit any particular layout I wish to create and the ability to add graphics if warranted.

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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

We all collect differently, and that's good! I have no idea why I am such a strong believer in pre-done albums. Part of it was that when my wife and I started collecting in the early 1970's that's all we knew. And I guess we just stayed with that. My albums are very dear to me now since they contain the original notations we made at the beginning. Each to his/her own. But, all this being said, I'd still love to find those Ukraine pages from a SG album before I start mounting the stamps in my Minkus album. Can anyone help?

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re: The "joys" involved in stamp collecting!!

I give up using an album 40 years ago, Scott Specility Album just too confining.

I built my own pages for a few years.

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I think everyone here knows how I do my albums! Hey I like my material the way I want it. When I find something cool, I can always add it to my collection. There are no rules!

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I do not know what i would do without the stamps and covers...they were always a solace in trying times.

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Great presentation, Tom (BenFranklin). I just love looking at collections that include covers, varieties, multiples and so on. Beautiful and so interesting! I wish I could browse through that entire album.

I think the Texas cover you picked is cool - more interesting to see a smaller town cancel like “Gonzales”. Nice stuff!

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Thanks Theresa!

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