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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : What's the difference between a variety and an error?

 

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08 Feb 2023
01:50:05pm
I was just getting ready to add a list of my Canada varieties/errors to my want/have list and I realize that I have no idea what the definitions of these two things are. In a post a week or so ago I called something an error and I was told it wasn't an error, it was a variety. Can anyone explain the difference in such a way that I can understand it. In other words, plain language, not a bunch of esoteric double speak - please!! I use the two terms almost interchangeably but there must be a difference!!
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08 Feb 2023
02:46:25pm
re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Variety cause changes in the appearance of the printed stamp.

Error is a mistake.

Next time just google it!

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08 Feb 2023
03:05:15pm
re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Harvey, an error is specifically a stamp that has something abnormal as compared with a normal stamp of the same design or issue. eg. misspelt name, wrong colour or paper or perf. Double printed, wrong plate construction, like an inverted centre or incorrect watermark.
A variety is a stamp having an omission from or addition to the normal design, usually caused by an error or fault in the printing process.These usually show up as dots or flecks not part of the original design. Hence the term Flyspecking.
Hope this helps.

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08 Feb 2023
03:16:59pm
re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

When responding to a question like this, my preference is always to defer to the people who have written books, and therefore presumably put some thought into a meaningful definition.

In this case, I defer to Mr. Sutton, who offers what I think are excellent explanations:

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I have bracketed the portion of this one that deals with "Errors of design". My own personal preference on this topic is that it should be a separate entry, because including it with printing errors perpetuates the novice's or non-collector's idea that such errors make a stamp valuable. If the design error is immediately recalled (like the 2015 Canada "Dinosaur Park" error) that can be true, but if the design error is allowed to persist for some time, it has insignificant effect on the value of the stamp (Sutton's Fiji example).

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08 Feb 2023
03:23:08pm
re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Vic, that helps a lot, thanks! I think I understand now!! If I think of the 5 additions to the Kreighoff stamp - log in snow, icicle on roof, etc, these are varieties. I can think of a couple of my Russian stamps that had to be reissued with corrections because of a wrong date on one and a miss-colored flag on another. These would be errors. I can't think of too many actual errors on Canadian stamps right now but at least I know what they are. And as far as 1898 is concerned I tried his advice

" Next time just google it! "

and really didn't like the explanation! No major offence intended, but I found that a little bit rude.

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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08 Feb 2023
03:29:02pm
re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

I think google explained it better than I could.

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08 Feb 2023
03:40:47pm
re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Like Roy, my go to is this one by David Rennie, published in 1982. ISBN 0 352 31088 X Price originally was UK £1.50
My copy is actually signed by David Rennie in 1992, well hopefully it is his signature. Think I picked it up in a box lot at auction years ago.
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09 Feb 2023
08:59:32am
re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Harvey
As error is akin to saying the sum of 2+3 is 7. A variety is akin to having to choose from Butter Pecan from Moose Tracks ice cream. As to how this relates to stamps?.....no idea. Maybe you could Google it.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
08 Feb 2023
01:50:05pm

I was just getting ready to add a list of my Canada varieties/errors to my want/have list and I realize that I have no idea what the definitions of these two things are. In a post a week or so ago I called something an error and I was told it wasn't an error, it was a variety. Can anyone explain the difference in such a way that I can understand it. In other words, plain language, not a bunch of esoteric double speak - please!! I use the two terms almost interchangeably but there must be a difference!!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

08 Feb 2023
02:46:25pm

re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Variety cause changes in the appearance of the printed stamp.

Error is a mistake.

Next time just google it!

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sheepshanks

08 Feb 2023
03:05:15pm

re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Harvey, an error is specifically a stamp that has something abnormal as compared with a normal stamp of the same design or issue. eg. misspelt name, wrong colour or paper or perf. Double printed, wrong plate construction, like an inverted centre or incorrect watermark.
A variety is a stamp having an omission from or addition to the normal design, usually caused by an error or fault in the printing process.These usually show up as dots or flecks not part of the original design. Hence the term Flyspecking.
Hope this helps.

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08 Feb 2023
03:16:59pm

re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

When responding to a question like this, my preference is always to defer to the people who have written books, and therefore presumably put some thought into a meaningful definition.

In this case, I defer to Mr. Sutton, who offers what I think are excellent explanations:

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I have bracketed the portion of this one that deals with "Errors of design". My own personal preference on this topic is that it should be a separate entry, because including it with printing errors perpetuates the novice's or non-collector's idea that such errors make a stamp valuable. If the design error is immediately recalled (like the 2015 Canada "Dinosaur Park" error) that can be true, but if the design error is allowed to persist for some time, it has insignificant effect on the value of the stamp (Sutton's Fiji example).

Roy

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
08 Feb 2023
03:23:08pm

re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Vic, that helps a lot, thanks! I think I understand now!! If I think of the 5 additions to the Kreighoff stamp - log in snow, icicle on roof, etc, these are varieties. I can think of a couple of my Russian stamps that had to be reissued with corrections because of a wrong date on one and a miss-colored flag on another. These would be errors. I can't think of too many actual errors on Canadian stamps right now but at least I know what they are. And as far as 1898 is concerned I tried his advice

" Next time just google it! "

and really didn't like the explanation! No major offence intended, but I found that a little bit rude.

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

08 Feb 2023
03:29:02pm

re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

I think google explained it better than I could.

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08 Feb 2023
03:40:47pm

re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Like Roy, my go to is this one by David Rennie, published in 1982. ISBN 0 352 31088 X Price originally was UK £1.50
My copy is actually signed by David Rennie in 1992, well hopefully it is his signature. Think I picked it up in a box lot at auction years ago.
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09 Feb 2023
08:59:32am

re: What's the difference between a variety and an error?

Harvey
As error is akin to saying the sum of 2+3 is 7. A variety is akin to having to choose from Butter Pecan from Moose Tracks ice cream. As to how this relates to stamps?.....no idea. Maybe you could Google it.

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