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2010ccg

06 Feb 2023
09:21:27am
I have a complete set of the 13 plus 1 of the confederate stamps issued in 1862 They appear to be unused and hinged . I tried to upload the image but i was unable to do successfully. My question is of value . Any ideas? Anyone wishing to see the set I can email you the image to you
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06 Feb 2023
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Reduce the image size to 800 wide - it will work

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06 Feb 2023
03:03:01pm
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This is the image Cheryl wanted to post. It was in a .pdf and I just scraped out the image part. Stamp images cut-off at the bottom as in the .pdf file.

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06 Feb 2023
03:10:07pm
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06 Feb 2023
05:44:33pm
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You have to be a bit careful since facsimiles of these stamps exist. I don't think they were very well done but you should certainly try to find out about them. The only one I have is a facsimile of #3 and it is a very poor copy of the stamp.

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06 Feb 2023
09:29:13pm
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@ccg

I assume you are talking about stamps 1861-1865 and not just 1862?

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2010ccg

07 Feb 2023
07:34:01am
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No just the ones in the photocopy..Can you post pictures of the stamps from 63 to 65?

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07 Feb 2023
08:31:07am
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Harvey is quite right. What you have are facsimiles, not originals. That said, they are fine for inclusion to show the series while you work very hard to actually get hold of some originals. Usually the originals will not be perfect, have corners off, will be poor examples compared to the rest of your collection, but still fun to get hold of. The clues will be the quality of the paper and the depth of the color and the picture. The originals kind of "pop out" at you, compared to the facsimiles which appear as muted/faded.
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07 Feb 2023
04:36:06pm
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Thankyou Dan I thought so....

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07 Feb 2023
09:46:06pm
re: Confederate stamp collection

I was pleased to add a Confederate stamp to my collection a few years ago.

Very nice collection. I'm wary of getting anything that could be a forgery or facsimile.

Only get high values from my trusted dealer of 25 years.

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08 Feb 2023
07:45:51am
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Instead of showing the scans, just provide the cat. numbers, for all your 13 plus 1 of the confederate stamps issued in 1862!


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08 Feb 2023
08:59:51am
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"Instead of showing the scans, just provide the cat. numbers, for all your 13 plus 1 of the confederate stamps issued in 1862!"



And of what use would that be? Anybody with a Scott catalog can look up what stamps were issued. Unless of course, you are trolling for a misstatement that you can challenge. (Like maybe there are only 8 Scott major numbers assigned to issues dated 1862 -- one unissued) and the rest are shown as 1863?)

The question was, what does she have?

Cheryl, I believe this is what you have:

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Further searching on "Confederate Springfield facsimiles" may turn up some useful info. I haven't had a chance.

Here is my only page of Confederate stamps for comparison:

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You can see that the print quality, the paper and the uniformity of the margins in your image are all immediately suspect.

Roy

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08 Feb 2023
10:51:32am
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She's looking for value, I have a cat., but do not know for sure which stamps she has.

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2010ccg

08 Feb 2023
04:49:31pm
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The stamps that I have are shown above . I am not sure what you are questioning
My question to you via message was to scan and show what you believe to be later issues
. As for value they are the Springfield Facsimiles . Thank you Roy for your information.
As for value I truly don`t know but will certainly be checking the information supplied by Roy.
There is a set currently on ebay selling for 25$ US. To me they are a nice addition to my US collection
and not for sale.
Cheryl
ps The set was the creation of Howard MacIntosh of Tatham Stamps & Coin Co. 1934 If anyone can add more info please do...Thankyou



I just located an article from Linns of Nov 19th 2019 which stated that the Tatham Stamp Co. was a well known mail order house between 1930-1960. They produced educational booklets to show the stamp recognition and history . They also produced Christmas seals between 1927-1950.

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08 Feb 2023
10:47:09pm
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Plus the Confederacy never issued a yellow one cent stamp.

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09 Feb 2023
03:25:05am
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Cheryl,

Nice topic. I have a whole bunch of these reproductions, not all of them from Tatham Stamp & Coin I am sure. I also have part of the Confederate Educational booklet.
The Tatham Stamp & Coin Company produced some very nice Cinderella stamps, many of them to advertise their business.

More later......

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09 Feb 2023
08:19:00am
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@20100ccg

So sorry I could not help you to determine what the value of your stamps were. I know nothing about fake stamps in addition I do not collect Confederate stamps or know any thing about them. Of course at the start of your original posting it was unknown they were faked!

Have the cat. numbers would have been a big help!

Good luck in your future stamp collecting!

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2010ccg

09 Feb 2023
11:32:50am
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I am sorry that I could not provide the catalogue numbers for you Not everyone uses Scott and since I am not a serious collector I do not have a recent catalogue I am more in to postal history and the story behind the stamps.
With the help of another member, Dan posted the scans for me and this led to a lot of history being shared Roy was a great help and this led to me discovering the Tatham Stamp Company . Another member has added more history this morning.
Stamporama is made up an amazing group of philatelic folks who share their knowledge and wisdom . I am so blessed to learn from them

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2010ccg

06 Feb 2023
09:21:27am

I have a complete set of the 13 plus 1 of the confederate stamps issued in 1862 They appear to be unused and hinged . I tried to upload the image but i was unable to do successfully. My question is of value . Any ideas? Anyone wishing to see the set I can email you the image to you
Cheryl

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06 Feb 2023
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06 Feb 2023
03:03:01pm

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This is the image Cheryl wanted to post. It was in a .pdf and I just scraped out the image part. Stamp images cut-off at the bottom as in the .pdf file.

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06 Feb 2023
03:10:07pm

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06 Feb 2023
05:44:33pm

re: Confederate stamp collection

You have to be a bit careful since facsimiles of these stamps exist. I don't think they were very well done but you should certainly try to find out about them. The only one I have is a facsimile of #3 and it is a very poor copy of the stamp.

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06 Feb 2023
09:29:13pm

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@ccg

I assume you are talking about stamps 1861-1865 and not just 1862?

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2010ccg

07 Feb 2023
07:34:01am

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No just the ones in the photocopy..Can you post pictures of the stamps from 63 to 65?

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07 Feb 2023
08:31:07am

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Harvey is quite right. What you have are facsimiles, not originals. That said, they are fine for inclusion to show the series while you work very hard to actually get hold of some originals. Usually the originals will not be perfect, have corners off, will be poor examples compared to the rest of your collection, but still fun to get hold of. The clues will be the quality of the paper and the depth of the color and the picture. The originals kind of "pop out" at you, compared to the facsimiles which appear as muted/faded.
Best,
Dan C.

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07 Feb 2023
04:36:06pm

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Thankyou Dan I thought so....

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09:46:06pm

re: Confederate stamp collection

I was pleased to add a Confederate stamp to my collection a few years ago.

Very nice collection. I'm wary of getting anything that could be a forgery or facsimile.

Only get high values from my trusted dealer of 25 years.

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08 Feb 2023
07:45:51am

re: Confederate stamp collection

@2010ccg

Instead of showing the scans, just provide the cat. numbers, for all your 13 plus 1 of the confederate stamps issued in 1862!


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08 Feb 2023
08:59:51am

re: Confederate stamp collection

"Instead of showing the scans, just provide the cat. numbers, for all your 13 plus 1 of the confederate stamps issued in 1862!"



And of what use would that be? Anybody with a Scott catalog can look up what stamps were issued. Unless of course, you are trolling for a misstatement that you can challenge. (Like maybe there are only 8 Scott major numbers assigned to issues dated 1862 -- one unissued) and the rest are shown as 1863?)

The question was, what does she have?

Cheryl, I believe this is what you have:

Image Not Found

Further searching on "Confederate Springfield facsimiles" may turn up some useful info. I haven't had a chance.

Here is my only page of Confederate stamps for comparison:

Image Not Found

You can see that the print quality, the paper and the uniformity of the margins in your image are all immediately suspect.

Roy

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08 Feb 2023
10:51:32am

re: Confederate stamp collection

She's looking for value, I have a cat., but do not know for sure which stamps she has.

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2010ccg

08 Feb 2023
04:49:31pm

re: Confederate stamp collection

The stamps that I have are shown above . I am not sure what you are questioning
My question to you via message was to scan and show what you believe to be later issues
. As for value they are the Springfield Facsimiles . Thank you Roy for your information.
As for value I truly don`t know but will certainly be checking the information supplied by Roy.
There is a set currently on ebay selling for 25$ US. To me they are a nice addition to my US collection
and not for sale.
Cheryl
ps The set was the creation of Howard MacIntosh of Tatham Stamps & Coin Co. 1934 If anyone can add more info please do...Thankyou



I just located an article from Linns of Nov 19th 2019 which stated that the Tatham Stamp Co. was a well known mail order house between 1930-1960. They produced educational booklets to show the stamp recognition and history . They also produced Christmas seals between 1927-1950.

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08 Feb 2023
10:47:09pm

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Plus the Confederacy never issued a yellow one cent stamp.

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09 Feb 2023
03:25:05am

re: Confederate stamp collection

Cheryl,

Nice topic. I have a whole bunch of these reproductions, not all of them from Tatham Stamp & Coin I am sure. I also have part of the Confederate Educational booklet.
The Tatham Stamp & Coin Company produced some very nice Cinderella stamps, many of them to advertise their business.

More later......

Londonbus1

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09 Feb 2023
08:19:00am

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@20100ccg

So sorry I could not help you to determine what the value of your stamps were. I know nothing about fake stamps in addition I do not collect Confederate stamps or know any thing about them. Of course at the start of your original posting it was unknown they were faked!

Have the cat. numbers would have been a big help!

Good luck in your future stamp collecting!

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2010ccg

09 Feb 2023
11:32:50am

re: Confederate stamp collection

I am sorry that I could not provide the catalogue numbers for you Not everyone uses Scott and since I am not a serious collector I do not have a recent catalogue I am more in to postal history and the story behind the stamps.
With the help of another member, Dan posted the scans for me and this led to a lot of history being shared Roy was a great help and this led to me discovering the Tatham Stamp Company . Another member has added more history this morning.
Stamporama is made up an amazing group of philatelic folks who share their knowledge and wisdom . I am so blessed to learn from them

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