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My first action to sort by Illus. Number, from the Scott Cat.
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These are the four designs:
There are several ways to tell them apart, separating stamps with value in letters and value in numbers would be a good start.
There are many stamps that look exactly alike and several steps are needed to find the ID of any given stamp, but when you are done checking perfs., printing methods, watermarks and few other tale tell details you'll have arrive to the cat. number of the stamp in question.
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My second action is to wash and then use a drying book with 30LBS weight on the drying book for at least two days.
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I soak the stamps and place them face down on a paper towel from my wife's kitchen, put them under the dining room fan for about 30 minutes and when they are dried place them in a stockbook, when I check on them few days later they are as flat as flat can be.
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I like how you said "my wife's kitchen". If she is a southern girl, I know that you made a wise decision to hand it over to her completely. Fried chicken, fried pork chops, collards, milk gravy, buttermilk biscuits etc. You can't beat it!
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The Stamp Smarter website has a really good Washington/Franklin ID Tool.
https://stampsmarter.org/features/SQL_Wa ...
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Next step, now the stamps are sorted IAW Illus number and washed (result cleaned, got rid of all the gum, and pressed flat) start watermarking the stamps paying attention to the orientations.
If you are a stamp collector who only cares about filling an empty in your album, the Stamp Smarter is an excellent choice. But if you are concerned about more than just filling an empty spot in your album then Stamp Smarter is a poor choice.
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I'm a very serious stamp collector who loves filling spots in his albums, there is nothing wrong with that. Obviously there is much more to it than this but don't overlook the thrill you can get by filling the last spot on a page. Especially if you've worked damn hard to do it. There are many ways to collect, we are all different and no one should be suggesting their way is better than ours. I love my hobby and will continue to fill spaces until every album is as near complete as possible. I appreciate other ways of collecting but would never suggest one way is "better" than another. I'm not trying to be critical, just expressing my opinion!
Edit: In my humble opinion the stamp collector who collects pretty butterfly stamps is just as valuable as the collector who is spending huge amounts of time identifying very difficult varieties, they are both keeping our hobby alive. Both deserve our help and respect.
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Next step check for paper types, my tip have an orange card stock to check for bluish paper. A back light is sometimes useful! For the stamps that were not watermarked you should have noted when you used the water mark process on them any fault discovered, a stitched water mark is not a fault!
An extra step I take (really not required) is to measure the thickness of any suspected thin paper varieties (this is not a fault of a thin stamp,) but a paper varietary! Last time I checked stamp smarter these varieties were not mentioned.
Also check for silkthread varities also not mentioned in Stamp smarter.
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I am curious. Where do you find referance to "Silkthread varities" for the Washington/Franklins?
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Personal experience.
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...good grief...
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Next step perforation, always use the Kiusalas gauage.
I find after thousands and thousands of stamps, it's best to perf. stamps from the reverse side, and perf. each side that has perfs!
I find this takes the most time!
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Next step the cancel.
Pay attention to the year/month/day (if on the stamp).
This step sometimes will aid to determine cat. number.
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Roy, that's an absolute classic, love it!!!
Much better that just using 
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Wonderful, I could not think of a response to it!
Again, thank you
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I was looking for a cry baby image, but could not decide on one, but you picked the right one!
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I actually like IDing Wash.-Franklins or flag over porch issues. I'm glad that all stamps are not like that but it gives a lot of satisfaction to correctly ID them or to correct a boneheaded mistake that I made myself. The box of kiloware that I bought before the one that I am working on was a real dud. Didn't yield much of anything until a couple of handfuls before being empty. There was a Wash. Franklin that I set aside. You could immediately see that it was probably perf 10 and one of the higher values. After watermarking and perf checking confirmed the sc. no., it turned out to have a cat value of about 30.00. Not bad, but I figured that I probably had it. Going to the album and what do you know, I didn't have it! It makes the whole process fun.
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Working on Wash/Franklin head stamps for me is tons of fun.
I hear other collectors say they are too hard to ID, or they are a lots of trouble. These collectors in my way of thinking right from the start created problems for themself.
I've had my share of bonehead stamps that I had trouble with. I put these to the side and every few weeks/months visit them again, this normally works. My bigestest bonehead ID actualy took me almost a year to figure out. The problem wasn't the stamp but it was me, I had not correctly read the catalog description, then it was easy.
I just received a lot of stamps today to ID. So good luck to you and maybe I'll have good luck.
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Next step. So ready to actually ID these stamps, check the cat. for similar Illus numbers.
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In summay, this is not for the casual collector use.
It does take time to use my system, but it returns results.
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As a huge fan of the Wash/Frank Heads
- BRAVO
- BRAVO
and Good Grief
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This is my way to do this, works for me.
My first action to sort by Illus. Number, from the Scott Cat.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
These are the four designs:
There are several ways to tell them apart, separating stamps with value in letters and value in numbers would be a good start.
There are many stamps that look exactly alike and several steps are needed to find the ID of any given stamp, but when you are done checking perfs., printing methods, watermarks and few other tale tell details you'll have arrive to the cat. number of the stamp in question.
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My second action is to wash and then use a drying book with 30LBS weight on the drying book for at least two days.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
I soak the stamps and place them face down on a paper towel from my wife's kitchen, put them under the dining room fan for about 30 minutes and when they are dried place them in a stockbook, when I check on them few days later they are as flat as flat can be.
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I like how you said "my wife's kitchen". If she is a southern girl, I know that you made a wise decision to hand it over to her completely. Fried chicken, fried pork chops, collards, milk gravy, buttermilk biscuits etc. You can't beat it!
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
The Stamp Smarter website has a really good Washington/Franklin ID Tool.
https://stampsmarter.org/features/SQL_Wa ...
Bob
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
Next step, now the stamps are sorted IAW Illus number and washed (result cleaned, got rid of all the gum, and pressed flat) start watermarking the stamps paying attention to the orientations.
If you are a stamp collector who only cares about filling an empty in your album, the Stamp Smarter is an excellent choice. But if you are concerned about more than just filling an empty spot in your album then Stamp Smarter is a poor choice.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
I'm a very serious stamp collector who loves filling spots in his albums, there is nothing wrong with that. Obviously there is much more to it than this but don't overlook the thrill you can get by filling the last spot on a page. Especially if you've worked damn hard to do it. There are many ways to collect, we are all different and no one should be suggesting their way is better than ours. I love my hobby and will continue to fill spaces until every album is as near complete as possible. I appreciate other ways of collecting but would never suggest one way is "better" than another. I'm not trying to be critical, just expressing my opinion!
Edit: In my humble opinion the stamp collector who collects pretty butterfly stamps is just as valuable as the collector who is spending huge amounts of time identifying very difficult varieties, they are both keeping our hobby alive. Both deserve our help and respect.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
Next step check for paper types, my tip have an orange card stock to check for bluish paper. A back light is sometimes useful! For the stamps that were not watermarked you should have noted when you used the water mark process on them any fault discovered, a stitched water mark is not a fault!
An extra step I take (really not required) is to measure the thickness of any suspected thin paper varieties (this is not a fault of a thin stamp,) but a paper varietary! Last time I checked stamp smarter these varieties were not mentioned.
Also check for silkthread varities also not mentioned in Stamp smarter.
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I am curious. Where do you find referance to "Silkthread varities" for the Washington/Franklins?
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@mbo1142
Personal experience.
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...good grief...
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Next step perforation, always use the Kiusalas gauage.
I find after thousands and thousands of stamps, it's best to perf. stamps from the reverse side, and perf. each side that has perfs!
I find this takes the most time!
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
Next step the cancel.
Pay attention to the year/month/day (if on the stamp).
This step sometimes will aid to determine cat. number.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
Roy, that's an absolute classic, love it!!!
Much better that just using !
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@Roy
Wonderful, I could not think of a response to it!
Again, thank you
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I was looking for a cry baby image, but could not decide on one, but you picked the right one!
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
I actually like IDing Wash.-Franklins or flag over porch issues. I'm glad that all stamps are not like that but it gives a lot of satisfaction to correctly ID them or to correct a boneheaded mistake that I made myself. The box of kiloware that I bought before the one that I am working on was a real dud. Didn't yield much of anything until a couple of handfuls before being empty. There was a Wash. Franklin that I set aside. You could immediately see that it was probably perf 10 and one of the higher values. After watermarking and perf checking confirmed the sc. no., it turned out to have a cat value of about 30.00. Not bad, but I figured that I probably had it. Going to the album and what do you know, I didn't have it! It makes the whole process fun.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
@joesm
Working on Wash/Franklin head stamps for me is tons of fun.
I hear other collectors say they are too hard to ID, or they are a lots of trouble. These collectors in my way of thinking right from the start created problems for themself.
I've had my share of bonehead stamps that I had trouble with. I put these to the side and every few weeks/months visit them again, this normally works. My bigestest bonehead ID actualy took me almost a year to figure out. The problem wasn't the stamp but it was me, I had not correctly read the catalog description, then it was easy.
I just received a lot of stamps today to ID. So good luck to you and maybe I'll have good luck.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
Next step. So ready to actually ID these stamps, check the cat. for similar Illus numbers.
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re: How to I Id Wash/Frank Head Stamps1908-1921
In summay, this is not for the casual collector use.
It does take time to use my system, but it returns results.
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As a huge fan of the Wash/Frank Heads
- BRAVO
- BRAVO
and Good Grief
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