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It's only an offsett (the new words are "set off"), either way, this is a flat press printed, sheets are stacked on each other, sometimes the ink is not dry, the next sheet picks up the image.
New collectors think this is printed on both sides, IT IS NOT printed on both sides. You'll notice your stamp the image is negative orientation. A true printed on both sides will both be positive orientation.
As far as value goes for an offsett isn't worth anything other than what the parent stamp is worth, if anything.
Too bad I see your stamp has a fault, otherwise your stamp is attractive.
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06:13:31pm
You didn't mean bottom margin, I assume you mean bottom picture. Your stamp does have wonderful margins though. In the bottom picture, since the picture is reversed, I assume it is what people call offset printing. Due, I assume, to sheets being stacked on top of other sheets that are not quite dry!
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Some of the Newfoundland Waterlow Printings offsets are worth many times the regular stamp's catalogue value, in some cases greater than 100 times more.
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Yogi would say is deja vu all over again, this transfer of ink is very common on flat press printing yet people think they found King Solomon mines.
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06:45:16pm
I think a lot of the Newfoundland offsets are given a value in Unitrade, this is not. But I still think it's a very interesting stamp and the pulled perf would make very little difference to me. I think it would look incredibly interesting in an album displayed upside down, of course, next to the regular stamp. Of course most people are not as strange as me so it probably would not sell for a lot - but I really like it!! If you decide to sell, pick a price, and let me know!!
Edit:totally off topic, but when I was looking up the Newfoundland offsets I noticed some stamps are "imperf pair with security punch". What is a security punch?
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I've been at this long enough to not have hoped this was new Mercedes territory. In hind site, I believe I've seen this before, but just not so blatant. The pulled perf is a shame, but hell, it's pretty darn old stamp. I'll post it in my store and see what happens. However, if I was still collecting, this would stay in my collection.
Thanks folks
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I know I am old and going blind, but pulled perf? If you are talking about the perf at left center, then I give up trying to explain damaged stamps.
Edit: Now I see the one at the top, but still.
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10:57:09am
"I'll post it in my store and see what happens. "
Could you give a link to your store so I could have a look!!
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03:42:07pm
" Now I see the one at the top, but still."
Pulled perfs on most stamps, especially older ones like this one, bother me hardly at all. But realistically they do reduce the price a bit, even though I have several in my collection. Technically the British Guiana 1 Cent Magenta should be worth almost nothing because of all the writing on the back and the fact that it has obviously been trimmed to that weird shape. But I'd still love to have it in my collection if I collected British Guiana!
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"I noticed some stamps are "imperf pair with security punch". What is a security punch?"
Could this just mean they're perfins?
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02:31:05pm
I think I answered the question about the security punch. Why I just didn't Google it in the first place, I have no idea!
https://www.hipstamp.com/listing/newfoun ...
And here's one more
https://www.ebay.com/itm/272280479741
They seem a bit pricey!!
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Wouldn't that punch be easy to reproduce?
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"Wouldn't that punch be easy to reproduce?"
Yup. Sure would!!!
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I bought the half cent Queen from "Bigcreekdad" and one of the Newfoundland total offset printings from "Grandpadennis" and what gets me is how perfect the offset copies on the back of the stamp are! I understand how the process occurs, the stacking of sheets of stamps while still wet. But how do you get such a perfect transfer? What I would expect is a mess! And what happens to the bottom stamp, the one losing the ink? You would expect it to have a very weak, or hardly any, design. These weak designed stamps should be in circulation as well, but you don't seem to run into them. A complete loss of design would probably never happen, the "printed on gum stamps" are created differently. This is almost like those fake tattoos we use to put on our arms many years ago where the design completely disappeared from the paper we used. The process of creating offset printings should not, in my opinion, work as well as it does! Any comments that would explain this better to me would be appreciated!
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It's not thin or translucent paper...not a mirror image. See difference in bottom margin. Weird.
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06:11:58pm
re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
It's only an offsett (the new words are "set off"), either way, this is a flat press printed, sheets are stacked on each other, sometimes the ink is not dry, the next sheet picks up the image.
New collectors think this is printed on both sides, IT IS NOT printed on both sides. You'll notice your stamp the image is negative orientation. A true printed on both sides will both be positive orientation.
As far as value goes for an offsett isn't worth anything other than what the parent stamp is worth, if anything.
Too bad I see your stamp has a fault, otherwise your stamp is attractive.
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18 Dec 2022
06:13:31pm
re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
You didn't mean bottom margin, I assume you mean bottom picture. Your stamp does have wonderful margins though. In the bottom picture, since the picture is reversed, I assume it is what people call offset printing. Due, I assume, to sheets being stacked on top of other sheets that are not quite dry!
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
Some of the Newfoundland Waterlow Printings offsets are worth many times the regular stamp's catalogue value, in some cases greater than 100 times more.
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
Yogi would say is deja vu all over again, this transfer of ink is very common on flat press printing yet people think they found King Solomon mines.
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18 Dec 2022
06:45:16pm
re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
I think a lot of the Newfoundland offsets are given a value in Unitrade, this is not. But I still think it's a very interesting stamp and the pulled perf would make very little difference to me. I think it would look incredibly interesting in an album displayed upside down, of course, next to the regular stamp. Of course most people are not as strange as me so it probably would not sell for a lot - but I really like it!! If you decide to sell, pick a price, and let me know!!
Edit:totally off topic, but when I was looking up the Newfoundland offsets I noticed some stamps are "imperf pair with security punch". What is a security punch?
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
I've been at this long enough to not have hoped this was new Mercedes territory. In hind site, I believe I've seen this before, but just not so blatant. The pulled perf is a shame, but hell, it's pretty darn old stamp. I'll post it in my store and see what happens. However, if I was still collecting, this would stay in my collection.
Thanks folks
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
I know I am old and going blind, but pulled perf? If you are talking about the perf at left center, then I give up trying to explain damaged stamps.
Edit: Now I see the one at the top, but still.
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19 Dec 2022
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
"I'll post it in my store and see what happens. "
Could you give a link to your store so I could have a look!!
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19 Dec 2022
03:42:07pm
re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
" Now I see the one at the top, but still."
Pulled perfs on most stamps, especially older ones like this one, bother me hardly at all. But realistically they do reduce the price a bit, even though I have several in my collection. Technically the British Guiana 1 Cent Magenta should be worth almost nothing because of all the writing on the back and the fact that it has obviously been trimmed to that weird shape. But I'd still love to have it in my collection if I collected British Guiana!
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
"I noticed some stamps are "imperf pair with security punch". What is a security punch?"
Could this just mean they're perfins?
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02:31:05pm
re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
I think I answered the question about the security punch. Why I just didn't Google it in the first place, I have no idea!
https://www.hipstamp.com/listing/newfoun ...
And here's one more
https://www.ebay.com/itm/272280479741
They seem a bit pricey!!
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
Wouldn't that punch be easy to reproduce?
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
"Wouldn't that punch be easy to reproduce?"
Yup. Sure would!!!
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re: How do you supposed this happened to 1/2 cent Canadian Small Queen?
I bought the half cent Queen from "Bigcreekdad" and one of the Newfoundland total offset printings from "Grandpadennis" and what gets me is how perfect the offset copies on the back of the stamp are! I understand how the process occurs, the stacking of sheets of stamps while still wet. But how do you get such a perfect transfer? What I would expect is a mess! And what happens to the bottom stamp, the one losing the ink? You would expect it to have a very weak, or hardly any, design. These weak designed stamps should be in circulation as well, but you don't seem to run into them. A complete loss of design would probably never happen, the "printed on gum stamps" are created differently. This is almost like those fake tattoos we use to put on our arms many years ago where the design completely disappeared from the paper we used. The process of creating offset printings should not, in my opinion, work as well as it does! Any comments that would explain this better to me would be appreciated!
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