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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

 

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09 Dec 2022
10:54:11am
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This drives me crazy at times. Of the two, do you have any opinions as to 56 or 57?




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09 Dec 2022
11:08:40am
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

I'm very sorry but I'm not set up to show a scan, but my 57 seems to be darker and duller than either of yours. In my humble opinion both of yours seem to be #56 with one a bit faded or less bright than the other. This is just my opinion and others may not agree, but my two stamps are much different in colour than yours appear to be. The other problem is that different monitors show colours differently and colours can oxidize or fade, this part of the hobby really can drive you a bit nuts. It's much the same as colour varieties with the early Canada large and small Queens, as you know from previous posts! Hang in there!!!

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09 Dec 2022
01:27:20pm
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

Picked these up in a collection I acquired in auction. one of them was indicated as 56, the other 57....the more I looked at them they seemed the same

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09 Dec 2022
02:03:15pm
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

John, don't take what I say as being necessarily true, it's only an opinion!! Could someone who has the two stamps please show a scan to show the actual colour difference? That should clear up any doubt!

"the more I looked at them they seemed the same"


I have exactly the same problem with the two early World map Christmas stamps. I bought them as different but they look almost exactly the same to me. I'm actually buying the two again just to make sure. At least they are fairly cheap. Colour shades for Canada stamps are maddening!

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09 Dec 2022
02:12:54pm
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

I believe your two stamps are the same and are both 57. I frequently use Colnect as a reference. I set the filters to show half cent Newfoundland stamps and it shows 56 and 57 side by side. Number 56 is not orange at all; it is rose red. Your stamps are both clearly orange and appear very much like the Colnect rendering of number 57.

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09 Dec 2022
02:22:02pm
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

Veeerrry interesting. I checked the two stamps in Unitrade again. I definitely have both but have them reversed, no big deal. It certainly does look like both of yours are #57, not #56 as I thought. I guess I should change those two stamps around in my album!! Either that or leave them as they are as a reminder of just another stupid mistake!

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cathotel

09 Dec 2022
02:34:04pm
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

I also would concur that both stamps are #57, based upon the colour rendering of your images on my monitor.

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09 Dec 2022
03:38:06pm
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

Thanks to all!

Do you think the designers were laughing when they decided on colors....ie.."This will throw them for a loop in the future"

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11 Dec 2022
02:57:36am
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

" .... Do you think the designers were laughing
when they decided on colors. ...."


No, I think they tried very hard to match colors,
which even today, with our computer technology
s not always perfect. In the 1880s there were
no digital color wheels with pixel counts. Tints,
tones and shades were a matter of the eyes,
and perhaps counting the droplets of a formula
in the hope off a perfect match. Then add to that,
different light sources and even weather conditions
and add a dollop of luck.

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12 Dec 2022
08:34:46am
re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

cdj....lighten up my friend.

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09 Dec 2022
10:54:11am

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This drives me crazy at times. Of the two, do you have any opinions as to 56 or 57?




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09 Dec 2022
11:08:40am

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

I'm very sorry but I'm not set up to show a scan, but my 57 seems to be darker and duller than either of yours. In my humble opinion both of yours seem to be #56 with one a bit faded or less bright than the other. This is just my opinion and others may not agree, but my two stamps are much different in colour than yours appear to be. The other problem is that different monitors show colours differently and colours can oxidize or fade, this part of the hobby really can drive you a bit nuts. It's much the same as colour varieties with the early Canada large and small Queens, as you know from previous posts! Hang in there!!!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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09 Dec 2022
01:27:20pm

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

Picked these up in a collection I acquired in auction. one of them was indicated as 56, the other 57....the more I looked at them they seemed the same

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09 Dec 2022
02:03:15pm

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

John, don't take what I say as being necessarily true, it's only an opinion!! Could someone who has the two stamps please show a scan to show the actual colour difference? That should clear up any doubt!

"the more I looked at them they seemed the same"


I have exactly the same problem with the two early World map Christmas stamps. I bought them as different but they look almost exactly the same to me. I'm actually buying the two again just to make sure. At least they are fairly cheap. Colour shades for Canada stamps are maddening!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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ren437

09 Dec 2022
02:12:54pm

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

I believe your two stamps are the same and are both 57. I frequently use Colnect as a reference. I set the filters to show half cent Newfoundland stamps and it shows 56 and 57 side by side. Number 56 is not orange at all; it is rose red. Your stamps are both clearly orange and appear very much like the Colnect rendering of number 57.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
09 Dec 2022
02:22:02pm

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

Veeerrry interesting. I checked the two stamps in Unitrade again. I definitely have both but have them reversed, no big deal. It certainly does look like both of yours are #57, not #56 as I thought. I guess I should change those two stamps around in my album!! Either that or leave them as they are as a reminder of just another stupid mistake!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
cathotel

09 Dec 2022
02:34:04pm

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

I also would concur that both stamps are #57, based upon the colour rendering of your images on my monitor.

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bigcreekdad

09 Dec 2022
03:38:06pm

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

Thanks to all!

Do you think the designers were laughing when they decided on colors....ie.."This will throw them for a loop in the future"

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11 Dec 2022
02:57:36am

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

" .... Do you think the designers were laughing
when they decided on colors. ...."


No, I think they tried very hard to match colors,
which even today, with our computer technology
s not always perfect. In the 1880s there were
no digital color wheels with pixel counts. Tints,
tones and shades were a matter of the eyes,
and perhaps counting the droplets of a formula
in the hope off a perfect match. Then add to that,
different light sources and even weather conditions
and add a dollop of luck.

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12 Dec 2022
08:34:46am

re: Newfoundland Colors......56 and 57

cdj....lighten up my friend.

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