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United States/BOB & Other : Rouletted wine stamps

 

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15 Sep 2022
04:28:09pm
Could one of you BOB collectors do me a small favour? Wine stamps are commonly rouletted either 3 or 7. I have a feeling that a lot of people don't understand the difference because I see a fair number that, to me, seem wrongly identified. But maybe it's me who doesn't understand. Could one of you please show me side-by-side one of each so I can see the difference. Rouletted stamps usually have cuts interspersed with little "tufts" where the gaps are. The tufts, I assume, would be like the perforation holes. That sounds reasonable to me, but does it make sense to you? Please show me a picture!!
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15 Sep 2022
05:51:22pm
re: Rouletted wine stamps

Your description of what a rouletted is incorrect. Roulettes do not remove paper creating a hole!

Attached is a side by side scan clearly showing the difference.

Wine stamps are in addition performated (pairs will show a round hole)!

There also is imperfs!

Your said "rouletted either 3 or 7", this is incorrect it's actually 3 1/2 or 7 per 2 inches!

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15 Sep 2022
06:04:16pm
re: Rouletted wine stamps

Sorry, my bad, I actually meant to say 3 1/2!! I can find no reference anywhere as how to accurately measure rouletted stamps. I've been assuming that a 7 would have the distance between the cuts smaller than the 3 1/2 with the uncut areas being in the same places as the holes would be in a perforated stamp. This means I should be able to use a perforation guide on the uncut areas. Actually comparing a 3 1/2 to a 7 should be easy because in a 3 1/2 the cuts should be longer and the uncut areas should be further apart. Does this logic make any sense at all?

I just found this on line quoting a posting in Stamp Community. Is this accurate? If it is then I was totally backwards in what I said above. Is all you do is measure the number of cuts per 20 mm?
By the way I know all about perforated and imperforate stamps and how to use a perforation guide, I am just not that familiar with rouletted stamps of different gauges and exactly what the gauges mean. Is it really as simple as counting the # of cuts per 20mm? If that's all there is it should be very easy to tell the two apart without even measuring!! COOL!!!

"Roulettes and hyphen holes are measured by counting how many "cuts" there are in a distance of 20 millimeters."



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15 Sep 2022
06:13:30pm
re: Rouletted wine stamps

Count per two inches, actually you can just tell the difference by looking!

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
15 Sep 2022
04:28:09pm

Could one of you BOB collectors do me a small favour? Wine stamps are commonly rouletted either 3 or 7. I have a feeling that a lot of people don't understand the difference because I see a fair number that, to me, seem wrongly identified. But maybe it's me who doesn't understand. Could one of you please show me side-by-side one of each so I can see the difference. Rouletted stamps usually have cuts interspersed with little "tufts" where the gaps are. The tufts, I assume, would be like the perforation holes. That sounds reasonable to me, but does it make sense to you? Please show me a picture!!

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"You know you're getting old when you stoop to tie your shoelaces and wonder what else you could do while you're down there - George Burns"
1898

15 Sep 2022
05:51:22pm

re: Rouletted wine stamps

Your description of what a rouletted is incorrect. Roulettes do not remove paper creating a hole!

Attached is a side by side scan clearly showing the difference.

Wine stamps are in addition performated (pairs will show a round hole)!

There also is imperfs!

Your said "rouletted either 3 or 7", this is incorrect it's actually 3 1/2 or 7 per 2 inches!

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
15 Sep 2022
06:04:16pm

re: Rouletted wine stamps

Sorry, my bad, I actually meant to say 3 1/2!! I can find no reference anywhere as how to accurately measure rouletted stamps. I've been assuming that a 7 would have the distance between the cuts smaller than the 3 1/2 with the uncut areas being in the same places as the holes would be in a perforated stamp. This means I should be able to use a perforation guide on the uncut areas. Actually comparing a 3 1/2 to a 7 should be easy because in a 3 1/2 the cuts should be longer and the uncut areas should be further apart. Does this logic make any sense at all?

I just found this on line quoting a posting in Stamp Community. Is this accurate? If it is then I was totally backwards in what I said above. Is all you do is measure the number of cuts per 20 mm?
By the way I know all about perforated and imperforate stamps and how to use a perforation guide, I am just not that familiar with rouletted stamps of different gauges and exactly what the gauges mean. Is it really as simple as counting the # of cuts per 20mm? If that's all there is it should be very easy to tell the two apart without even measuring!! COOL!!!

"Roulettes and hyphen holes are measured by counting how many "cuts" there are in a distance of 20 millimeters."



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"You know you're getting old when you stoop to tie your shoelaces and wonder what else you could do while you're down there - George Burns"
1898

15 Sep 2022
06:13:30pm

re: Rouletted wine stamps

Count per two inches, actually you can just tell the difference by looking!

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