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Understand these stamps were produced in three different print runs.
The first (1942) featured "regular white paper". With perforation of 10.5 or 11.5.
The second (1943) featured "pelure" paper. With perforation of 11.5.
The third (1944) featured "offset paper". With perforation of 11.5.
How is "offset paper" defined? How does it differ from "regular white paper"?
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Hi,
The only stamp in my old (1998/99) Michel catalogue with a 1944 issue date is:
Mi 1yA - 25B on thin pelure paper - perf 11.5 (issued March 1944).
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Thanks, Nigel.
My SG catalogues states:
Some printings of the 25, 50, 75b, 1, 2, 3, 3.5k, 5, 6, 12.5k (all perf 11.5) were made on "very thin paper".
Am interpreting "very thin paper" to be synonymous with pelure paper.
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Nigel...
Source: "world stamps project" website
"The stamps were printed in offset by Državna tiskara in Zagreb.
"The postal sheet consisted of 100 stamps (10 x 10). it is unknown of how many panes a print sheet was consisted of nor how many printing plates were made for each value. Circulation also can’t be exactly determined.
"There are indications that official stamps were printed in three runs between 1942 and 1944 and that the runs are distinguishable by types of paper. Consequently, a classification by paper types is the most common in philatelic literature. This notion is, however, disputed by some specialists."
The above info is credited to Ercegovic and Novak (1995).
Despite the "qualifier" (final) sentence, the WSP site includes a matrix which segregates these issues into the three "year periods" cited in my original post.
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Nigel...
While I have yet to find a definition for "offset paper" (the core of my original post), both the WSP site and Ercegovic and Novak (1995) list "offset paper" as one of the four paper options for Croatia's 1941-43 "Landscape" series.
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Calstamp,
It would be nice for other members that you post a picture of the stamp(s) you are referring to.
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HockeyNut.
Point taken.
Agree that inclusion of a picture/illustration would enhance future postings. And its an enhancement I hope to introduce in the near future.
Given my "technology handicap" (am still using dial-up), I try to make my posting titles descriptive. And to cite sources wherever possible.
(Gotta get back to the stove to heat my soup.)
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Found definition of "off-set paper". See original posting.
Credit: PaperIndex Academy:
“Offset paper or offset printing paper is a type of wood-free paper, comparable to book paper, that is primarily used in offset lithography for printing books, magazines, manuals, catalogs, posters, calendars, flyers, letterheads, publication interior sheets, brochures, and envelopes. Offset printing paper is used in both sheet-fed and web-fed printing presses.
“In the coated varieties of offset paper, a layer of coating is applied to the paper. This is done to improve the paper’s durability, along with improving its brightness. This type of offset paper is often used for printing book covers, brochures, and calendars. Printing on coated offset paper is more challenging than printing on the uncoated stock due to ink smearing and slower drying. Coated stocks do not absorb ink quite easily as uncoated stocks and require inks with greater adhesion.
“The uncoated variety of offset paper has a relatively coarse surface that enhances its ability to absorb printing inks and dampening solutions making it ideal for offset printing. The surface characteristics of offset paper make it easier to write on it with ballpoint and fountain ink pens and to get a clear print on it with a stamp. Offset papers are commonly used for office stationery for this reason. For printing purposes, it is possible to print high quality, multicolored graphics and illustrations and texts on these papers for a variety of products and publications. Offset papers, nevertheless, are not quite in the same league as art print papers for reproducing high-end color images.”
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It’s easy to grab a picture with my IPad and post it. The resolution is great, too. I do it occasionally on Facebook no problem. However, when I’ve tried to post a pic (and I’d love to do so) on SOR, it can’t post it because the file I send is too large. I have no idea how to reduce the file size, so I get Calstamp’s issue.
I realize that the smaller file will lose resolution quality, but if anyone knows how to do this, more members may be able to post pics.
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Joesm, try this site.
https://www.howtogeek.com/726913/how-to- ...
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Thanks, sheepshanks. I’ll give it a try.
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"Given my "technology handicap" (am still using dial-up), I try to make my posting titles descriptive. "
Wow !
I am flabbergasted.
Did some research and almost 2% of the american households have still a dial-up connection to the internet.
Do not know if the following is true but visited a site that stated :
There are still 36 Belgians who have internet at home via a dial-up connection.
(Maybe a dutch joke about belgians)
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07:39:45am
Understand these stamps were produced in three different print runs.
The first (1942) featured "regular white paper". With perforation of 10.5 or 11.5.
The second (1943) featured "pelure" paper. With perforation of 11.5.
The third (1944) featured "offset paper". With perforation of 11.5.
How is "offset paper" defined? How does it differ from "regular white paper"?
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re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Hi,
The only stamp in my old (1998/99) Michel catalogue with a 1944 issue date is:
Mi 1yA - 25B on thin pelure paper - perf 11.5 (issued March 1944).
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07:53:51am
re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Thanks, Nigel.
My SG catalogues states:
Some printings of the 25, 50, 75b, 1, 2, 3, 3.5k, 5, 6, 12.5k (all perf 11.5) were made on "very thin paper".
Am interpreting "very thin paper" to be synonymous with pelure paper.
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08:14:17am
re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Nigel...
Source: "world stamps project" website
"The stamps were printed in offset by Državna tiskara in Zagreb.
"The postal sheet consisted of 100 stamps (10 x 10). it is unknown of how many panes a print sheet was consisted of nor how many printing plates were made for each value. Circulation also can’t be exactly determined.
"There are indications that official stamps were printed in three runs between 1942 and 1944 and that the runs are distinguishable by types of paper. Consequently, a classification by paper types is the most common in philatelic literature. This notion is, however, disputed by some specialists."
The above info is credited to Ercegovic and Novak (1995).
Despite the "qualifier" (final) sentence, the WSP site includes a matrix which segregates these issues into the three "year periods" cited in my original post.
Happy hunting?
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08:22:16am
re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Nigel...
While I have yet to find a definition for "offset paper" (the core of my original post), both the WSP site and Ercegovic and Novak (1995) list "offset paper" as one of the four paper options for Croatia's 1941-43 "Landscape" series.
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re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Calstamp,
It would be nice for other members that you post a picture of the stamp(s) you are referring to.
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10:14:26am
re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
HockeyNut.
Point taken.
Agree that inclusion of a picture/illustration would enhance future postings. And its an enhancement I hope to introduce in the near future.
Given my "technology handicap" (am still using dial-up), I try to make my posting titles descriptive. And to cite sources wherever possible.
(Gotta get back to the stove to heat my soup.)
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09:18:40am
re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Found definition of "off-set paper". See original posting.
Credit: PaperIndex Academy:
“Offset paper or offset printing paper is a type of wood-free paper, comparable to book paper, that is primarily used in offset lithography for printing books, magazines, manuals, catalogs, posters, calendars, flyers, letterheads, publication interior sheets, brochures, and envelopes. Offset printing paper is used in both sheet-fed and web-fed printing presses.
“In the coated varieties of offset paper, a layer of coating is applied to the paper. This is done to improve the paper’s durability, along with improving its brightness. This type of offset paper is often used for printing book covers, brochures, and calendars. Printing on coated offset paper is more challenging than printing on the uncoated stock due to ink smearing and slower drying. Coated stocks do not absorb ink quite easily as uncoated stocks and require inks with greater adhesion.
“The uncoated variety of offset paper has a relatively coarse surface that enhances its ability to absorb printing inks and dampening solutions making it ideal for offset printing. The surface characteristics of offset paper make it easier to write on it with ballpoint and fountain ink pens and to get a clear print on it with a stamp. Offset papers are commonly used for office stationery for this reason. For printing purposes, it is possible to print high quality, multicolored graphics and illustrations and texts on these papers for a variety of products and publications. Offset papers, nevertheless, are not quite in the same league as art print papers for reproducing high-end color images.”
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11:47:48am
re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
It’s easy to grab a picture with my IPad and post it. The resolution is great, too. I do it occasionally on Facebook no problem. However, when I’ve tried to post a pic (and I’d love to do so) on SOR, it can’t post it because the file I send is too large. I have no idea how to reduce the file size, so I get Calstamp’s issue.
I realize that the smaller file will lose resolution quality, but if anyone knows how to do this, more members may be able to post pics.
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re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Joesm, try this site.
https://www.howtogeek.com/726913/how-to- ...
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07:48:07am
re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
Thanks, sheepshanks. I’ll give it a try.
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re: Croatia, Official Issues, Coat of Arms, 1942 - 1943
"Given my "technology handicap" (am still using dial-up), I try to make my posting titles descriptive. "
Wow !
I am flabbergasted.
Did some research and almost 2% of the american households have still a dial-up connection to the internet.
Do not know if the following is true but visited a site that stated :
There are still 36 Belgians who have internet at home via a dial-up connection.
(Maybe a dutch joke about belgians)
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