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United States/BOB & Other : R164 Var.

 

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1898

28 Aug 2022
11:23:49am
I enjoy plate var., what do you think about this one?Image Not Found

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michael78651

28 Aug 2022
08:26:20pm
re: R164 Var.

What are you asking for? If you are wanting an opinion about a plate or catalogue number, what do you think it is to give us a starting point. If you want an opinion about how the stamp looks....

I have always liked the Battleship revenue series (both of them). I especially like it when they have a light cancel so that the ship shows nicely. Very nice centering really frames the engraving like the work of art that it is.

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28 Aug 2022
10:50:06pm
re: R164 Var.

It looks like there is a scratch running from the left side diagonally to the top. Is this the vairiety?
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1898

28 Aug 2022
11:18:33pm
re: R164 Var.

@Vinman Thanks I agree.

@Michael, sorry I don't understand what you said "about a plate or catalogue number", I've already listed the catalogue number, do you think it's another catalogue number? What plate number are you referring to?

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michael78651

29 Aug 2022
01:24:27am
re: R164 Var.

Not plate number, but a specific printing plate, if there is one.

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1898

29 Aug 2022
08:59:24am
re: R164 Var.

@Michael, very sorry you have me confused (easy to do) I thought a plate number and a specific printing plate are one and the same.

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michael78651

29 Aug 2022
09:05:32pm
re: R164 Var.

OMG, you're right. I need to get over the next few months so I can think straight again.....I'm confusing myself.

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03 Sep 2022
09:31:30am
re: R164 Var.

The confusion is caused by your presenting this as a "guessing game". i.e. "study my stamp and find the variety".

Few of us have the time or inclination for that.

If you wanted actual discussion of the variety, it should have been presented like this:

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Plate varieties aren't my thing, so I will abstain from comment, but maybe now those who are interested in such things will comment on the probable cause, now that they don't have to find it first.

BTW, obvious as the scratch is to me now, I would not have noticed it without the clue from vinman.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!

03 Sep 2022
10:02:50am
re: R164 Var.

I'm by no means an expert, but... It really doesn't look like a cracked plate to me. It seems too regular and it stops and than continues. It doesn't really look like a colour shift either. I can't imagine it as an engraving error either because of the regular nature of it. Is there any way that a fold in the paper could cause something like this, you'd think it would continue. In other words, I have no idea. But I bet someone out there can tell you!!

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1898

03 Sep 2022
02:46:00pm
re: R164 Var.

This plate var. I thought was large enough and arrows would not be required, but maybe I was wrong.

How many members could not find this plate var. without the arrows?


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03 Sep 2022
03:38:17pm
re: R164 Var.

I'll admit, I saw the "error" right away, I'm just not sure what caused it!!!

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03 Sep 2022
03:42:50pm
re: R164 Var.

Something like that is so typical for stamps of that era. I never noticed it myself, thinking the plate flaw was something else.

It's nice to not have to guess what the OP is trying to find more info on.

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03 Sep 2022
03:44:32pm

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"How many members could not find this plate var. without the arrows?"

Hardly the point.

The fact is you confused 3 very knowledgable collector/dealers

Michael - a moderator of this forum and a dealer since the late 70's/early 80's,

Vince - an advanced collector of fancy cancels and auxiliary markings who belongs to the following organizations: US Cancellation Club, Fire Service In Philately, The Classics Society, Pennsylvania Postal History Society, The Peninsular State Philatelic Society, The Greater Philadelphia Stamp And Collectors Club, The Auxiliary Markings Club

Roy who makes a living as a stamp dealer and provided us with the use of his server for many years so we could have a club.

All 3 asked you to explain what you were looking for.

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03 Sep 2022
05:00:11pm
re: R164 Var.

I'm not trying to be a pain, but that red line sticking out in the top margin seemed to be obvious!

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1898

03 Sep 2022
05:23:31pm
re: R164 Var.



I'll try this again.

I guess I'm an old time collector, who actually examine stamps. It's true stamp collecting back in the 1950s was way different then it is today, we did not have computer, scanners, etc. and etc. Anyway I learned what it takes and promise to always add arrows and description text when necessary and to use Pick Up Points (PUPs).

So now is this what is needed???

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28 Aug 2022
11:23:49am

I enjoy plate var., what do you think about this one?Image Not Found

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michael78651

28 Aug 2022
08:26:20pm

re: R164 Var.

What are you asking for? If you are wanting an opinion about a plate or catalogue number, what do you think it is to give us a starting point. If you want an opinion about how the stamp looks....

I have always liked the Battleship revenue series (both of them). I especially like it when they have a light cancel so that the ship shows nicely. Very nice centering really frames the engraving like the work of art that it is.

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28 Aug 2022
10:50:06pm

re: R164 Var.

It looks like there is a scratch running from the left side diagonally to the top. Is this the vairiety?
Vince

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1898

28 Aug 2022
11:18:33pm

re: R164 Var.

@Vinman Thanks I agree.

@Michael, sorry I don't understand what you said "about a plate or catalogue number", I've already listed the catalogue number, do you think it's another catalogue number? What plate number are you referring to?

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michael78651

29 Aug 2022
01:24:27am

re: R164 Var.

Not plate number, but a specific printing plate, if there is one.

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1898

29 Aug 2022
08:59:24am

re: R164 Var.

@Michael, very sorry you have me confused (easy to do) I thought a plate number and a specific printing plate are one and the same.

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michael78651

29 Aug 2022
09:05:32pm

re: R164 Var.

OMG, you're right. I need to get over the next few months so I can think straight again.....I'm confusing myself.

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03 Sep 2022
09:31:30am

re: R164 Var.

The confusion is caused by your presenting this as a "guessing game". i.e. "study my stamp and find the variety".

Few of us have the time or inclination for that.

If you wanted actual discussion of the variety, it should have been presented like this:

Image Not Found

Plate varieties aren't my thing, so I will abstain from comment, but maybe now those who are interested in such things will comment on the probable cause, now that they don't have to find it first.

BTW, obvious as the scratch is to me now, I would not have noticed it without the clue from vinman.

Roy

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
03 Sep 2022
10:02:50am

re: R164 Var.

I'm by no means an expert, but... It really doesn't look like a cracked plate to me. It seems too regular and it stops and than continues. It doesn't really look like a colour shift either. I can't imagine it as an engraving error either because of the regular nature of it. Is there any way that a fold in the paper could cause something like this, you'd think it would continue. In other words, I have no idea. But I bet someone out there can tell you!!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

03 Sep 2022
02:46:00pm

re: R164 Var.

This plate var. I thought was large enough and arrows would not be required, but maybe I was wrong.

How many members could not find this plate var. without the arrows?


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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
03 Sep 2022
03:38:17pm

re: R164 Var.

I'll admit, I saw the "error" right away, I'm just not sure what caused it!!!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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Praying for Ukraine
03 Sep 2022
03:42:50pm

re: R164 Var.

Something like that is so typical for stamps of that era. I never noticed it myself, thinking the plate flaw was something else.

It's nice to not have to guess what the OP is trying to find more info on.

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Webpaper

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03 Sep 2022
03:44:32pm

Auctions - Approvals

re: R164 Var.

"How many members could not find this plate var. without the arrows?"

Hardly the point.

The fact is you confused 3 very knowledgable collector/dealers

Michael - a moderator of this forum and a dealer since the late 70's/early 80's,

Vince - an advanced collector of fancy cancels and auxiliary markings who belongs to the following organizations: US Cancellation Club, Fire Service In Philately, The Classics Society, Pennsylvania Postal History Society, The Peninsular State Philatelic Society, The Greater Philadelphia Stamp And Collectors Club, The Auxiliary Markings Club

Roy who makes a living as a stamp dealer and provided us with the use of his server for many years so we could have a club.

All 3 asked you to explain what you were looking for.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
03 Sep 2022
05:00:11pm

re: R164 Var.

I'm not trying to be a pain, but that red line sticking out in the top margin seemed to be obvious!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

03 Sep 2022
05:23:31pm

re: R164 Var.



I'll try this again.

I guess I'm an old time collector, who actually examine stamps. It's true stamp collecting back in the 1950s was way different then it is today, we did not have computer, scanners, etc. and etc. Anyway I learned what it takes and promise to always add arrows and description text when necessary and to use Pick Up Points (PUPs).

So now is this what is needed???

Image Not Found


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