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Selamat Pagi Pak Brian:
I just checked all my reference material for the Neth. Indies. The only evidence I could find of this sort of thing is below.
In my "Katalog Pranko Indonesia 2009", pg. 19 shows 10-cent red-orange Queen Wilhemina overprinted "Repoeblik / Indonesia / Japanese characters". The Japanese characters are not ini a box. There are examples with the ORI in cloverleaf and the NRI handstamp. The catalogue says: 1946, (On Japanese Occupation stamp combination with other revolution hand stamped overprints).
I'm with you, I don't know what to think the stamps you have shown.
David Giles
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It's weird alright....
The stamp on the left has indeed 2 overprints :
1) a square overprint type ZG and reads "Seal of the military Administration Department". That overprint exists in Violet, Red and Orange. BLACK OVERPRINTS ARE FORGERIES.
2) The Type 7 "ORI" Overprint from the revolutionary periode from sumatra. That overprint exists in Black, Violet, Red and Blue.
The stamp on the right has indeed 2 overprints :
1) A rectangle overprint type ZH2 from sumatra.
2) The Type 7 "ORI" Overprint from the revolutionary periode from sumatra. That overprint exists in Black, Violet, Red and Blue.
And now it comes.... Read the following text in the picture
.... THUS SOME OF THESE OVERPRINTS APPEAR ALONE ON BASIC DUTCH OR JAPANESE STAMPS AND ALSO AS SECOND OVERPRINTS ON VARIOUS JAPANESE OVERPRINTED ISSUES......
So I am puzzled too
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I've a few books at the shop tht I will check, and report back to this thread towards the week's end.
David
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I recently got an old copy of the Dai Nippon catalogue ("Catalogue of the Postage Stamps of the Netherlands East Indies under Japanese Occupation 1942-1945"). Let's see if it has an answer to this.
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The Dai Nippon catalogue says that the overprint on the 3 cent dancer on the left is a regional one from Banka and Billiton (2 islands east of Sumatra) and dates it to 1942. The Japanese overprint translates as Hockeynut wrote but the funny thing is that according to the Dai Nippon catalogue it only exists with a red overprint...
The one on the right is the boxed inscription Dai Nihon / Nippon (Greater Japan), type 82, which was used from 1943.
There are lots of varieties, but they seem to be used on Sumatra.
I have no information on these still around during the revolutionary period.
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My research at the shop concurs with Jan-Simon.
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I found these two Indonesian O/P on a site for sale ,but they appear to be fake ?In 1946 the Indonesians changed their currency and overprinted all the stamps with ORI in a Cloverleaf design,and yet both of these stamps have Japanese overprints over the top of the 1946 cloverleaf O/P.The Japanese had already surrendered so how come any one have any idea?
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re: Can someone explain these O/P's
Selamat Pagi Pak Brian:
I just checked all my reference material for the Neth. Indies. The only evidence I could find of this sort of thing is below.
In my "Katalog Pranko Indonesia 2009", pg. 19 shows 10-cent red-orange Queen Wilhemina overprinted "Repoeblik / Indonesia / Japanese characters". The Japanese characters are not ini a box. There are examples with the ORI in cloverleaf and the NRI handstamp. The catalogue says: 1946, (On Japanese Occupation stamp combination with other revolution hand stamped overprints).
I'm with you, I don't know what to think the stamps you have shown.
David Giles
Ottawa, Canada
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re: Can someone explain these O/P's
It's weird alright....
The stamp on the left has indeed 2 overprints :
1) a square overprint type ZG and reads "Seal of the military Administration Department". That overprint exists in Violet, Red and Orange. BLACK OVERPRINTS ARE FORGERIES.
2) The Type 7 "ORI" Overprint from the revolutionary periode from sumatra. That overprint exists in Black, Violet, Red and Blue.
The stamp on the right has indeed 2 overprints :
1) A rectangle overprint type ZH2 from sumatra.
2) The Type 7 "ORI" Overprint from the revolutionary periode from sumatra. That overprint exists in Black, Violet, Red and Blue.
And now it comes.... Read the following text in the picture
.... THUS SOME OF THESE OVERPRINTS APPEAR ALONE ON BASIC DUTCH OR JAPANESE STAMPS AND ALSO AS SECOND OVERPRINTS ON VARIOUS JAPANESE OVERPRINTED ISSUES......
So I am puzzled too
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I've a few books at the shop tht I will check, and report back to this thread towards the week's end.
David
Ottawa, Canada
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re: Can someone explain these O/P's
I recently got an old copy of the Dai Nippon catalogue ("Catalogue of the Postage Stamps of the Netherlands East Indies under Japanese Occupation 1942-1945"). Let's see if it has an answer to this.
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re: Can someone explain these O/P's
The Dai Nippon catalogue says that the overprint on the 3 cent dancer on the left is a regional one from Banka and Billiton (2 islands east of Sumatra) and dates it to 1942. The Japanese overprint translates as Hockeynut wrote but the funny thing is that according to the Dai Nippon catalogue it only exists with a red overprint...
The one on the right is the boxed inscription Dai Nihon / Nippon (Greater Japan), type 82, which was used from 1943.
There are lots of varieties, but they seem to be used on Sumatra.
I have no information on these still around during the revolutionary period.
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My research at the shop concurs with Jan-Simon.
David
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