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Canada/Covers & Postmarks : Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

 

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13 May 2022
08:42:19pm
I can't imagine there would be any circumstance where 13 cents would be a valid rate for a postcard in 1941 but on the off chance I am wrong I am going to ask anyway.

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14 May 2022
07:09:58am
re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

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Sometimes, people use whatever stamps are at hand. I often receive mail from the United States franked with three Forever stamps. The rate to Canada is $1.30, but they are paying $1.74. The philatelic term for this is called a "convenience franking".

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Ottawa, Ont. Canada

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14 May 2022
09:00:09am
re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

Thanks David -


That's what I figured - just wanted to be sure.

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14 May 2022
09:40:36am
re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

it looks like Americans travelling in Canada; they might not have any clue as to rates. I believe the US and Canada had reciprocal rates then, so it would have matched US PC rate.

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14 May 2022
06:01:31pm
re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

To me, the postmark is not clear, but it appears to be some time in the 1940s, likely 1941. The 13c stamp used was issued in 1938 as a part of a definitive series, and was still in use in the early 1940s until superseded by the 13c RAM tank in the war series issued July 1, 1942.

What was the postcard rate in the US in the 1940s? I very much doubt it was 13 cents.

J. T. Hurd.

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14 May 2022
07:14:23pm
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August 27th. fell on a Wednesday in 1941 and 1946, some websites have 1941 as a Thursday.
The image looks like 1941.

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14 May 2022
07:53:43pm
re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

checked the Treaty rates between US and Canada. This existed from February 1875 until fairly recently (50s????)

Post cards: 2c from 1931 to 1958

Air mail: 6c 1934 to 1944; 8c 1944-46; 5c 1946-49; and 6c again from 1949

Air Mail Post Cards began 1.1.49 at 4c until 8.1.58





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14 May 2022
09:22:57pm
re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

It is 1941 and David was correct - just a normal over franking. Probably the lodge kept 13 cent stamps in stock - if they had a postal window it would add to their yearly sales quite a bit......

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15 May 2022
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re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

Not sure what the actual scene on the stamp is, but maybe they thought it looked enough like their view of Lake of the Woods that they thought it cute to use the stamp as a gimmick.

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

13 May 2022
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I can't imagine there would be any circumstance where 13 cents would be a valid rate for a postcard in 1941 but on the off chance I am wrong I am going to ask anyway.

Thank you

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re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

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Sometimes, people use whatever stamps are at hand. I often receive mail from the United States franked with three Forever stamps. The rate to Canada is $1.30, but they are paying $1.74. The philatelic term for this is called a "convenience franking".

Cheers!

David Giles
Ottawa, Ont. Canada

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re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

Thanks David -


That's what I figured - just wanted to be sure.

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14 May 2022
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re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

it looks like Americans travelling in Canada; they might not have any clue as to rates. I believe the US and Canada had reciprocal rates then, so it would have matched US PC rate.

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14 May 2022
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re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

To me, the postmark is not clear, but it appears to be some time in the 1940s, likely 1941. The 13c stamp used was issued in 1938 as a part of a definitive series, and was still in use in the early 1940s until superseded by the 13c RAM tank in the war series issued July 1, 1942.

What was the postcard rate in the US in the 1940s? I very much doubt it was 13 cents.

J. T. Hurd.

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14 May 2022
07:14:23pm

re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

August 27th. fell on a Wednesday in 1941 and 1946, some websites have 1941 as a Thursday.
The image looks like 1941.

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14 May 2022
07:53:43pm

re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

checked the Treaty rates between US and Canada. This existed from February 1875 until fairly recently (50s????)

Post cards: 2c from 1931 to 1958

Air mail: 6c 1934 to 1944; 8c 1944-46; 5c 1946-49; and 6c again from 1949

Air Mail Post Cards began 1.1.49 at 4c until 8.1.58





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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

14 May 2022
09:22:57pm

re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

It is 1941 and David was correct - just a normal over franking. Probably the lodge kept 13 cent stamps in stock - if they had a postal window it would add to their yearly sales quite a bit......

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15 May 2022
11:20:07am

re: Perhaps it is the only stamp they could find ?

Not sure what the actual scene on the stamp is, but maybe they thought it looked enough like their view of Lake of the Woods that they thought it cute to use the stamp as a gimmick.

Dave

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