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Europe/Great Britain : Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

 

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10 Apr 2022
08:41:12am
I have always had an interest in GB and Commonwealth stamps, but primarily up to 1940. I see so many questions and discussions about Machins. Pardon my Yankee lack of knowledge, but why is there such interest?

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10 Apr 2022
09:58:21am
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

The longest running definitive series in the history of stamps, with a gazillion varieties from colors, perfs, paper, printers etc. etc. etc.

These tiny differences appeal to a certain set of collectors, who enjoy having thousands of look-alike (or near look-alike) stamps that are actually different.

Others, like me, run away screaming.

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10 Apr 2022
10:28:02am
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Thanks Roy. I having been recently running away screaming from some early Swiss stamps. Sounds like Machins might be worse.

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10 Apr 2022
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Too bad we don't have polls on the board!

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10 Apr 2022
12:20:33pm

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"The longest running definitive series in the history of stamps"



Actually, the Norwegian posthorn series is considerably older. First issue 1871, most recent one 2019 and still in use, so that's 151 years, whereas the Machin series was introduced in 1967, "only" 55 years ago. You are right though, the amount of varieties is bewildering. Even when one neglects the nerdy differences between papers and printers, there are I don't know how many.
On the other hand, serious Posthorn collectors also distinguish between papers, perfs, printers, watermarks etc.

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10 Apr 2022
12:42:04pm
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

"Actually, the Norwegian posthorn series is considerably older. First issue 1871, most recent one 2019 and still in use, so that's 151 years, whereas the Machin series was introduced in 1967, "only" 55 years ago."



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lerivage

11 Apr 2022
12:27:29am
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

At least we think that Machins will end one day. For the Norwegian posthorns no one knows.

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11 Apr 2022
09:05:22am
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Wow! And people look at me strange because of my focus on my 1903 Ben Franklin stamp!

"But it's just pages and pages of the same stamp!" Big Grin

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11 Apr 2022
07:21:34pm
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Lerivage said, "At least we think that Machins will end one day. For the Norwegian posthorns no one knows."

What do you mean the Machine will end one day? Queen Elizabeth II is immortal, isn't she? She wasn't young when I took this photograph of her in 1994, at the opening of the University of Northern British Columbia in Prince George:

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My philatelic swan song was sung, and ended on a sour note, when I gave up collecting Canada's "Admirals," stamps picturing King George V. It only took me a few hours to go blind over paper types, flyspeck errors, cracked plates, shades, wet and dry printings, and something called a "pig-droppings" error.

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12 Apr 2022
02:06:31am
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

I'm glad Jan brought up the beautiful Norge Posthorns.
I started accumulating them from my mom and dad's duplicates
when I was just five or six and one day got my grandmother's
trove of envelopes with the then current posthorns. That was not
only before the Machins started, but preceded the Wildings.
Since they had been stored with no idea of potential philatelic
interest, the covers had been torn open and treated harshly.
I had no more idea of what some of those pre-war and wartime
censored covers were worth.
I kept the stamps.

"" ... On the other hand, serious Posthorn collectors
also distinguish between papers, perfs, printers, watermarks etc. ..."
"



I have several pages of some early Posthorns that illustrate the
four watermark positions;
Posthorn watermark with mouthpiece on the right with horn end
up, or down,
and,
mouthpiece on the left, also with horn up or down.

( Watermarks on posthorns, Wildings and Commonwealth
keyplates are probably 50% responsible for my increasingly
compromised vision.)



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They are really attractive, are they not ?

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12 Apr 2022
09:22:59am

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Good one Charlie, very informative !Thumbs Up

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12 Apr 2022
08:34:45pm
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Just for the heck of it and for bigcreekdad I have added a few Machins in the auction, I also, with an awful lot of help from Tim managed to get the bulk uploader working.
Think my brain cell died in the process, now waiting for a three day snowstorm and blizzard to hit this evening, possibly another 40cm of snow by Friday. Think I'll stay home as roads will probably be closed.

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13 Apr 2022
05:52:55am
re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

If you like GB Machins, there are also Hong Hong Machins.

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10 Apr 2022
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I have always had an interest in GB and Commonwealth stamps, but primarily up to 1940. I see so many questions and discussions about Machins. Pardon my Yankee lack of knowledge, but why is there such interest?

Thanks in advance

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10 Apr 2022
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re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

The longest running definitive series in the history of stamps, with a gazillion varieties from colors, perfs, paper, printers etc. etc. etc.

These tiny differences appeal to a certain set of collectors, who enjoy having thousands of look-alike (or near look-alike) stamps that are actually different.

Others, like me, run away screaming.

Roy

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10 Apr 2022
10:28:02am

re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Thanks Roy. I having been recently running away screaming from some early Swiss stamps. Sounds like Machins might be worse.

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re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Too bad we don't have polls on the board!

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10 Apr 2022
12:20:33pm

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re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

"The longest running definitive series in the history of stamps"



Actually, the Norwegian posthorn series is considerably older. First issue 1871, most recent one 2019 and still in use, so that's 151 years, whereas the Machin series was introduced in 1967, "only" 55 years ago. You are right though, the amount of varieties is bewildering. Even when one neglects the nerdy differences between papers and printers, there are I don't know how many.
On the other hand, serious Posthorn collectors also distinguish between papers, perfs, printers, watermarks etc.

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re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

"Actually, the Norwegian posthorn series is considerably older. First issue 1871, most recent one 2019 and still in use, so that's 151 years, whereas the Machin series was introduced in 1967, "only" 55 years ago."



Ok, you got me.


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lerivage

11 Apr 2022
12:27:29am

re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

At least we think that Machins will end one day. For the Norwegian posthorns no one knows.

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Tom in Exton, PA
11 Apr 2022
09:05:22am

re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Wow! And people look at me strange because of my focus on my 1903 Ben Franklin stamp!

"But it's just pages and pages of the same stamp!" Big Grin

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11 Apr 2022
07:21:34pm

re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Lerivage said, "At least we think that Machins will end one day. For the Norwegian posthorns no one knows."

What do you mean the Machine will end one day? Queen Elizabeth II is immortal, isn't she? She wasn't young when I took this photograph of her in 1994, at the opening of the University of Northern British Columbia in Prince George:

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My philatelic swan song was sung, and ended on a sour note, when I gave up collecting Canada's "Admirals," stamps picturing King George V. It only took me a few hours to go blind over paper types, flyspeck errors, cracked plates, shades, wet and dry printings, and something called a "pig-droppings" error.

Bob

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12 Apr 2022
02:06:31am

re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

I'm glad Jan brought up the beautiful Norge Posthorns.
I started accumulating them from my mom and dad's duplicates
when I was just five or six and one day got my grandmother's
trove of envelopes with the then current posthorns. That was not
only before the Machins started, but preceded the Wildings.
Since they had been stored with no idea of potential philatelic
interest, the covers had been torn open and treated harshly.
I had no more idea of what some of those pre-war and wartime
censored covers were worth.
I kept the stamps.

"" ... On the other hand, serious Posthorn collectors
also distinguish between papers, perfs, printers, watermarks etc. ..."
"



I have several pages of some early Posthorns that illustrate the
four watermark positions;
Posthorn watermark with mouthpiece on the right with horn end
up, or down,
and,
mouthpiece on the left, also with horn up or down.

( Watermarks on posthorns, Wildings and Commonwealth
keyplates are probably 50% responsible for my increasingly
compromised vision.)



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They are really attractive, are they not ?

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12 Apr 2022
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Good one Charlie, very informative !Thumbs Up

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12 Apr 2022
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re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

Just for the heck of it and for bigcreekdad I have added a few Machins in the auction, I also, with an awful lot of help from Tim managed to get the bulk uploader working.
Think my brain cell died in the process, now waiting for a three day snowstorm and blizzard to hit this evening, possibly another 40cm of snow by Friday. Think I'll stay home as roads will probably be closed.

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Al
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13 Apr 2022
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re: Machins....what the heck is all the interest in them?

If you like GB Machins, there are also Hong Hong Machins.

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