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JohnnyStamp
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02 Mar 2022
07:48:06pm

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I need help identifying this item. Who issued it and what was its purpose?
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02 Mar 2022
07:52:37pm
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I imagine it is a Norwegian cinderella but I'm sure someone will positively identify your stamps.

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Laeding
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02 Mar 2022
08:48:14pm
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Looks like it was postmarked in 194X. If the cancel is after WW2 it is one of many cinderellas issued to raise money for a cause (often children, but there is no mention of children on this one). If postmarked during WW2, that would be pretty cool!! Not an expert in these, hopefully someone can shed more light on it...

EDIT: Looked into it a bit...

The National Aid Fund for War Victims was established as a separate foundation under the Ministry of Social Affairs on May 2, 1947. The Fund's Board was appointed by the King. After the liberation, Nasjonalhjelpen launched a fundraiser for the victims of the freedom struggle, among other things through the so-called "Hakon VII" lottery." NOK 103.7 million was collected, of which NOK 32.3 million was eventually paid out, partly to alleviate emergencies and help for self-help. The rest, around 71 million, was transferred to the National Aid Fund for War Victims, which was established in 1947. The organization was then wound up in 1952.

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02 Mar 2022
08:58:46pm

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The cancellation looked ominous. The invasion of Norway was in April, 1940. I think it was a neutral country at that time. (Strange how an invasion changes your perspective on things). Were these items used to raise funds outside the country?
Larry

*** Oh.. I just saw your edit. Thank you so much.. that sheds a great deal more light on the subject.

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02 Mar 2022
09:12:32pm
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National Aid Fund for the Victims of the War.

These were commonly attached to lottery tickets used as fundraisers for aid money.

See this Wikipedia article;


https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasjonalhj ...



The wording on your stamp translates to "National Aid"

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02 Mar 2022
09:14:32pm
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Wikipedia:
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasjonalhj ...

Translation from Norwegian:

"The National Aid Fund for War Victims , also known as the National Aid is a common term for the institution in Norway which during the war in 1940–1945 and in the first post-war years was responsible for collecting and distributing aid to victims after the war. The fund was established in 1940 and ended with the board closing down in 1952. The agency's most important task during the occupation was to coordinate assistance to war victims in Norway, both during and after the war"

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One for sale on a postcard here https://fafop.com/products/43154

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02 Mar 2022
09:15:23pm
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Norway declared its neutrality in 1939, then Germany invaded it and Denmark in "Operation Weserübung" in 1940 to "protect their neutrality."

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02 Mar 2022
09:22:18pm

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Thank you all for the information, links and especially the postcard to see it in actual usage.

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D2M2

04 Apr 2022
01:04:40pm
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This 15.5 pence Machin has an aqua marking on the back. Is it a watermark? Significance?

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Brechinite

04 Apr 2022
01:33:23pm

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These stamps were sold at a discount and come from Booklets.

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D2M2

04 Apr 2022
01:41:06pm
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Yes, but I'm asking about the aqua marking on the reverse.

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04 Apr 2022
01:48:24pm
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Try this site, https://adminware.ca/machin/Index.php?Ba ...
The stamps are noted as such in Scott under the relevant values, 12.5, 13, 15.5, 16, 17p.
Gibbons also shows the backprints in their introduction section.
Usually the ink soaks off so mostly you see them on Mint copies.

Edit, the significance is that it shows the stamp was sold at a discount.

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D2M2

04 Apr 2022
01:55:11pm
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Thank you for the information.
I'm glad to find this machin site.

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02 Mar 2022
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02 Mar 2022
07:52:37pm

re: Help Identifying this.

I imagine it is a Norwegian cinderella but I'm sure someone will positively identify your stamps.

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Laeding

02 Mar 2022
08:48:14pm

re: Help Identifying this.

Looks like it was postmarked in 194X. If the cancel is after WW2 it is one of many cinderellas issued to raise money for a cause (often children, but there is no mention of children on this one). If postmarked during WW2, that would be pretty cool!! Not an expert in these, hopefully someone can shed more light on it...

EDIT: Looked into it a bit...

The National Aid Fund for War Victims was established as a separate foundation under the Ministry of Social Affairs on May 2, 1947. The Fund's Board was appointed by the King. After the liberation, Nasjonalhjelpen launched a fundraiser for the victims of the freedom struggle, among other things through the so-called "Hakon VII" lottery." NOK 103.7 million was collected, of which NOK 32.3 million was eventually paid out, partly to alleviate emergencies and help for self-help. The rest, around 71 million, was transferred to the National Aid Fund for War Victims, which was established in 1947. The organization was then wound up in 1952.

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02 Mar 2022
08:58:46pm

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The cancellation looked ominous. The invasion of Norway was in April, 1940. I think it was a neutral country at that time. (Strange how an invasion changes your perspective on things). Were these items used to raise funds outside the country?
Larry

*** Oh.. I just saw your edit. Thank you so much.. that sheds a great deal more light on the subject.

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02 Mar 2022
09:12:32pm

re: Help Identifying this.

National Aid Fund for the Victims of the War.

These were commonly attached to lottery tickets used as fundraisers for aid money.

See this Wikipedia article;


https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasjonalhj ...



The wording on your stamp translates to "National Aid"

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02 Mar 2022
09:14:32pm

re: Help Identifying this.

Wikipedia:
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasjonalhj ...

Translation from Norwegian:

"The National Aid Fund for War Victims , also known as the National Aid is a common term for the institution in Norway which during the war in 1940–1945 and in the first post-war years was responsible for collecting and distributing aid to victims after the war. The fund was established in 1940 and ended with the board closing down in 1952. The agency's most important task during the occupation was to coordinate assistance to war victims in Norway, both during and after the war"

.

One for sale on a postcard here https://fafop.com/products/43154

Screenshot in case it disappears:
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Roy

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Laeding

02 Mar 2022
09:15:23pm

re: Help Identifying this.

Norway declared its neutrality in 1939, then Germany invaded it and Denmark in "Operation Weserübung" in 1940 to "protect their neutrality."

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JohnnyStamp

02 Mar 2022
09:22:18pm

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Thank you all for the information, links and especially the postcard to see it in actual usage.

Larry

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D2M2

04 Apr 2022
01:04:40pm

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This 15.5 pence Machin has an aqua marking on the back. Is it a watermark? Significance?

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Brechinite

04 Apr 2022
01:33:23pm

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These stamps were sold at a discount and come from Booklets.

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D2M2

04 Apr 2022
01:41:06pm

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Yes, but I'm asking about the aqua marking on the reverse.

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sheepshanks

04 Apr 2022
01:48:24pm

re: Help Identifying this.

Try this site, https://adminware.ca/machin/Index.php?Ba ...
The stamps are noted as such in Scott under the relevant values, 12.5, 13, 15.5, 16, 17p.
Gibbons also shows the backprints in their introduction section.
Usually the ink soaks off so mostly you see them on Mint copies.

Edit, the significance is that it shows the stamp was sold at a discount.

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D2M2

04 Apr 2022
01:55:11pm

re: Help Identifying this.

Thank you for the information.
I'm glad to find this machin site.

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