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Europe/Other : Eastern Silesia

 

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Harvey
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29 Dec 2021
10:20:14am
I picked up a few stamps from Eastern Silesia and am wondering where they show up in the Scott's International albums. I took a scan through Volume I and didn't find them anywhere. I have some in my Minkus Poland album and will probably end up putting these there as well. Scott's catalog has them under "E" but not the album. If the whole lot had been under Poland I wouldn't find them since I removed Poland and Russia from the album and gave them away. I looked under Czechoslovakia and they weren't there. I had the same problem with Eastern Rumelia a few years ago and ended up putting them with Bulgaria (I think!). Where would you dump Eastern Silesia?
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sensato

29 Dec 2021
12:29:08pm
re: Eastern Silesia

In my Scott Standard 2008, both Eastern Silesia and Eastern Rumelia appear under their own names.

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29 Dec 2021
02:15:04pm
re: Eastern Silesia

They show up in the catalog under their own name, but seem to be either missing or hidden somewhere else in the Scott International albums I use. I really don't see Eastern Silesia anywhere unless it was with the Poland section I removed. I'll probably put E. S. in my Minkus Poland album with the ones already there, #41 - #50. Inserting a spare page would be easy.

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In Arduis Fidelis

29 Dec 2021
02:46:36pm
re: Eastern Silesia

It's easy to miss, in my Scott Catalogue (2008) it is only half a page immediately preceding Ecuador.

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29 Dec 2021
02:57:57pm
re: Eastern Silesia

It's not the catalog I'm concerned with, I know it's there - I can't find it in Scott's ALBUM. Does anyone know where it might be in the ALBUM? It might have been under Poland but I removed Poland and Russia from the album.

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In Arduis Fidelis

29 Dec 2021
03:16:13pm
re: Eastern Silesia

Sorry, misunderstood.

You could try under Austria, as Eastern Silesia was part of Galicia pre 1918, which was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire.

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29 Dec 2021
03:38:42pm
re: Eastern Silesia

Poured over the entire Volume #1 of Scott's International Album - neither Eastern Silesia or Eastern Rumelia can be found anywhere. There's very obscure stuff there, but obviously they forgot these two areas ... unless I missed them somehow!! Again, if ES were listed under Poland (part of it is!) I wouldn't know since I removed Poland. I'll probably put in a spare page in my Minkus Poland.

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In Arduis Fidelis

29 Dec 2021
03:44:14pm
re: Eastern Silesia

Indeed part of ES is usually listed under Poland the other half under Czechoslovakia.

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jkc1999

30 Dec 2021
07:53:58am
re: Eastern Silesia

According to the Big Blue 1840-1940 blog, which is the best reference for all things Scott International Volume 1, Eastern Silesia and Eastern Rumelia do not appear in the 1997 or 1969 editions. They do appear in the1941 and 1947 editions.

Here the link to the blog, along the left side are all the countries:

http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.com/

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31 Jan 2022
08:02:37am
re: Eastern Silesia

From WIKIPEDIA :

Eastern Silesia was formerly the Austrian crownland Austrian Silesia, which was occupied by Czechoslovakia after World War I.
It had an area of 1,987 sq mi (5,146 km2), with a population of 680,422 in 1900.
The capital was Opava. Plans for a plebiscite fell through, and the area was divided between Czechoslovakia and Poland.

The territory was entered by the Czech military on 23 January 1919, after negotiations with Poland broke down.
A final agreement on the border was reached on 28 July 1920.


Eastern Silesia is remembered today by philatelists, since the plans for the plebiscite included the issuance of special postage stamps.
These were stamps of Czechoslovakia and Poland, overprinted with various combinations of "SO" or "S. O." (Fr. Silesie Orientale), and "1920".
They were in use from February to September 1920.
The overprints were produced in considerable numbers; with a few exceptions, the stamps are commonly available today at the minimum price.

The postal history of the territory is quite complicated, with both overprinted and unoverprinted stamps of the contending countries (and Austria) in use at different post offices at different times.


So you have 3 choices, either Austria, Czechoslovakia or Poland.

Maybe it's better to split them into these 3 countries.

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Harvey
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31 Jan 2022
08:07:21am
re: Eastern Silesia

I decided to put a spare page in my Poland book and end up with them all together. I have all the Poland ones and will add the others to my want list soon.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
29 Dec 2021
10:20:14am

I picked up a few stamps from Eastern Silesia and am wondering where they show up in the Scott's International albums. I took a scan through Volume I and didn't find them anywhere. I have some in my Minkus Poland album and will probably end up putting these there as well. Scott's catalog has them under "E" but not the album. If the whole lot had been under Poland I wouldn't find them since I removed Poland and Russia from the album and gave them away. I looked under Czechoslovakia and they weren't there. I had the same problem with Eastern Rumelia a few years ago and ended up putting them with Bulgaria (I think!). Where would you dump Eastern Silesia?

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
sensato

29 Dec 2021
12:29:08pm

re: Eastern Silesia

In my Scott Standard 2008, both Eastern Silesia and Eastern Rumelia appear under their own names.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
29 Dec 2021
02:15:04pm

re: Eastern Silesia

They show up in the catalog under their own name, but seem to be either missing or hidden somewhere else in the Scott International albums I use. I really don't see Eastern Silesia anywhere unless it was with the Poland section I removed. I'll probably put E. S. in my Minkus Poland album with the ones already there, #41 - #50. Inserting a spare page would be easy.

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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In Arduis Fidelis
29 Dec 2021
02:46:36pm

re: Eastern Silesia

It's easy to miss, in my Scott Catalogue (2008) it is only half a page immediately preceding Ecuador.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
29 Dec 2021
02:57:57pm

re: Eastern Silesia

It's not the catalog I'm concerned with, I know it's there - I can't find it in Scott's ALBUM. Does anyone know where it might be in the ALBUM? It might have been under Poland but I removed Poland and Russia from the album.

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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Dambrovski

In Arduis Fidelis
29 Dec 2021
03:16:13pm

re: Eastern Silesia

Sorry, misunderstood.

You could try under Austria, as Eastern Silesia was part of Galicia pre 1918, which was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire.

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wirralps.com

This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
29 Dec 2021
03:38:42pm

re: Eastern Silesia

Poured over the entire Volume #1 of Scott's International Album - neither Eastern Silesia or Eastern Rumelia can be found anywhere. There's very obscure stuff there, but obviously they forgot these two areas ... unless I missed them somehow!! Again, if ES were listed under Poland (part of it is!) I wouldn't know since I removed Poland. I'll probably put in a spare page in my Minkus Poland.

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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Dambrovski

In Arduis Fidelis
29 Dec 2021
03:44:14pm

re: Eastern Silesia

Indeed part of ES is usually listed under Poland the other half under Czechoslovakia.

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jkc1999

30 Dec 2021
07:53:58am

re: Eastern Silesia

According to the Big Blue 1840-1940 blog, which is the best reference for all things Scott International Volume 1, Eastern Silesia and Eastern Rumelia do not appear in the 1997 or 1969 editions. They do appear in the1941 and 1947 editions.

Here the link to the blog, along the left side are all the countries:

http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.com/

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HockeyNut

31 Jan 2022
08:02:37am

re: Eastern Silesia

From WIKIPEDIA :

Eastern Silesia was formerly the Austrian crownland Austrian Silesia, which was occupied by Czechoslovakia after World War I.
It had an area of 1,987 sq mi (5,146 km2), with a population of 680,422 in 1900.
The capital was Opava. Plans for a plebiscite fell through, and the area was divided between Czechoslovakia and Poland.

The territory was entered by the Czech military on 23 January 1919, after negotiations with Poland broke down.
A final agreement on the border was reached on 28 July 1920.


Eastern Silesia is remembered today by philatelists, since the plans for the plebiscite included the issuance of special postage stamps.
These were stamps of Czechoslovakia and Poland, overprinted with various combinations of "SO" or "S. O." (Fr. Silesie Orientale), and "1920".
They were in use from February to September 1920.
The overprints were produced in considerable numbers; with a few exceptions, the stamps are commonly available today at the minimum price.

The postal history of the territory is quite complicated, with both overprinted and unoverprinted stamps of the contending countries (and Austria) in use at different post offices at different times.


So you have 3 choices, either Austria, Czechoslovakia or Poland.

Maybe it's better to split them into these 3 countries.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
31 Jan 2022
08:07:21am

re: Eastern Silesia

I decided to put a spare page in my Poland book and end up with them all together. I have all the Poland ones and will add the others to my want list soon.

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
        

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