Hello psgStamper.
I think you are wrong about the time period.
It is cleary to see on the dates on those Japanese "Postmarks"
1 27-09-1912
2 can not read japanese
3 23-08-1912
4 26-07-1912
5 05-09-1912
6 07-11-1912
So not WW2 and not WW1
It is the time that Japan annexed Korea.
The year 1912 is a year that is between the period 1910-1919 which is known as
"Militaty Police Reign Era"
This is what I found on WIKIPEDIA :
In May 1910, the Minister of War of Japan, Terauchi Masatake, was given a mission to finalize Japanese control over Korea after the previous treaties (the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1904 and the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1907) had made Korea a protectorate of Japan and had established Japanese hegemony over Korean domestic politics.
On 22 August 1910, Japan effectively annexed Korea with the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910 signed by Ye Wanyong, Prime Minister of Korea, and Terauchi Masatake, who became the first Japanese Governor-General of Korea.
The treaty became effective the same day and was published one week later.
The treaty stipulated:
Article 1: His Majesty the Emperor of Korea concedes completely and definitely his entire sovereignty over the whole Korean territory to His Majesty the Emperor of Japan.
Article 2: His Majesty the Emperor of Japan accepts the concession stated in the previous article and consents to the annexation of Korea to the Empire of Japan.
Both the protectorate and the annexation treaties were declared already void in the 1965 Treaty on Basic Relations between Japan and the Republic of Korea.
This period is also known as Military Police Reign Era (1910–19) in which Police had the authority to rule the entire country.
Japan was in control of the media, law as well as government by physical power and regulations.
Thanks for the info... When I saw the "Rising Sun" flag, I thought of WWII. After looking around, it appears the Imperial battle flag "Rising Sun" was in use from 1870 until the end of WWII. I don't know if these are postmarks or not, but someone obviously had access to the stamps and filled a booklet with them. The only other thought would be if these are simply reproductions. Anyway, they are interesting.
I found one "postmark" in the book which contained an image of what is most definitely a WWII era airplane. I also found similar images on the internet to what is in the book. They are referred to as "commemorative" postmarks. Who knows...
That last "postmark" has a flight schedule above the plane.
Sorry I cannot read japanese.......
These do not date from 1912. They date from 1937.
The format for the date is yy.mm.dd however, the year is dated from the Emperor's ascension, so for this period add "1925". i.e. 1925 + 12 = 1937
There is an extensive discussion of Japanese dates on this discussion board somewhere, with examples. Maybe somebody can find it before I do.
Roy
Here is a reposting of of a discussion of postmarks from 2015:
This thread: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=5668#79948
"Japan of course, except that they frequently and without warning use the year of the emperor's reign instead of the calendar year. "
Thanks for the good info... The graphics seemed to be a bit more modern than WWI. I recall reading somewhere that dates were somehow tied to the reigns of emperors. It seems a bit confusing to me. Thanks again!
They are indeed commemorative postmarks. Here are a few from my "Sold database".
Roy
Hey Paul,
The "WWII era airplane"?
I believe it is a Mitsubishi G3M, or Type 96, "Nell". It has that distinctive twin tail.
It was specified by the Japanese Imperial Navy as a bomber, also capable of delivering an aerial torpedo. First flew in July, 1935 and was used through WWII.
-Paul
PS, in that 'cancellation', what is behind the depiction of the airplane looks to me like a graphical representation of a flight plan. I wonder if the cancellation was to commemorate a long distance proving flight. A concept of this plane's design was to be its high speed, in order to give it the range needed to reach distant targets. The earliest models of this plane carried no defensive armament. (This is similar to the German Schnellbomber concept.)
You're right about the flight plan... It looks like a scene out of the Indiana Jones movies where the plane is flying and the route is superimposed showing their route. Anyway, regardless of whether they have any monetary value or not, they certainly have historical importance. I will have to try and enhance some scans of them to bring out more detail.
Thanks again for all the responses.
Here are a couple of Japnese cancels on the stamps of Japan printed for use in Indonesia and the NI used in Indonesia during the Japanese Occupation first one is from a catalogue the second is mine During the occupation the stamps on the Netherlands Indies,Japan,Malay,and even Manchuria were used in Indonesia .
Brian
I have a small booklet with a series of what appear to be Japanese postmarks from World War II of a military nature. Actually, I don't believe that they are postmarks but I am curious as to what they may be. Does anyone have an idea?
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
Hello psgStamper.
I think you are wrong about the time period.
It is cleary to see on the dates on those Japanese "Postmarks"
1 27-09-1912
2 can not read japanese
3 23-08-1912
4 26-07-1912
5 05-09-1912
6 07-11-1912
So not WW2 and not WW1
It is the time that Japan annexed Korea.
The year 1912 is a year that is between the period 1910-1919 which is known as
"Militaty Police Reign Era"
This is what I found on WIKIPEDIA :
In May 1910, the Minister of War of Japan, Terauchi Masatake, was given a mission to finalize Japanese control over Korea after the previous treaties (the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1904 and the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1907) had made Korea a protectorate of Japan and had established Japanese hegemony over Korean domestic politics.
On 22 August 1910, Japan effectively annexed Korea with the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910 signed by Ye Wanyong, Prime Minister of Korea, and Terauchi Masatake, who became the first Japanese Governor-General of Korea.
The treaty became effective the same day and was published one week later.
The treaty stipulated:
Article 1: His Majesty the Emperor of Korea concedes completely and definitely his entire sovereignty over the whole Korean territory to His Majesty the Emperor of Japan.
Article 2: His Majesty the Emperor of Japan accepts the concession stated in the previous article and consents to the annexation of Korea to the Empire of Japan.
Both the protectorate and the annexation treaties were declared already void in the 1965 Treaty on Basic Relations between Japan and the Republic of Korea.
This period is also known as Military Police Reign Era (1910–19) in which Police had the authority to rule the entire country.
Japan was in control of the media, law as well as government by physical power and regulations.
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
Thanks for the info... When I saw the "Rising Sun" flag, I thought of WWII. After looking around, it appears the Imperial battle flag "Rising Sun" was in use from 1870 until the end of WWII. I don't know if these are postmarks or not, but someone obviously had access to the stamps and filled a booklet with them. The only other thought would be if these are simply reproductions. Anyway, they are interesting.
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
I found one "postmark" in the book which contained an image of what is most definitely a WWII era airplane. I also found similar images on the internet to what is in the book. They are referred to as "commemorative" postmarks. Who knows...
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
That last "postmark" has a flight schedule above the plane.
Sorry I cannot read japanese.......
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
These do not date from 1912. They date from 1937.
The format for the date is yy.mm.dd however, the year is dated from the Emperor's ascension, so for this period add "1925". i.e. 1925 + 12 = 1937
There is an extensive discussion of Japanese dates on this discussion board somewhere, with examples. Maybe somebody can find it before I do.
Roy
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
Here is a reposting of of a discussion of postmarks from 2015:
This thread: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=5668#79948
"Japan of course, except that they frequently and without warning use the year of the emperor's reign instead of the calendar year. "
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
Thanks for the good info... The graphics seemed to be a bit more modern than WWI. I recall reading somewhere that dates were somehow tied to the reigns of emperors. It seems a bit confusing to me. Thanks again!
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
They are indeed commemorative postmarks. Here are a few from my "Sold database".
Roy
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
Hey Paul,
The "WWII era airplane"?
I believe it is a Mitsubishi G3M, or Type 96, "Nell". It has that distinctive twin tail.
It was specified by the Japanese Imperial Navy as a bomber, also capable of delivering an aerial torpedo. First flew in July, 1935 and was used through WWII.
-Paul
PS, in that 'cancellation', what is behind the depiction of the airplane looks to me like a graphical representation of a flight plan. I wonder if the cancellation was to commemorate a long distance proving flight. A concept of this plane's design was to be its high speed, in order to give it the range needed to reach distant targets. The earliest models of this plane carried no defensive armament. (This is similar to the German Schnellbomber concept.)
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
You're right about the flight plan... It looks like a scene out of the Indiana Jones movies where the plane is flying and the route is superimposed showing their route. Anyway, regardless of whether they have any monetary value or not, they certainly have historical importance. I will have to try and enhance some scans of them to bring out more detail.
Thanks again for all the responses.
re: Japanese WWII Postmarks???
Here are a couple of Japnese cancels on the stamps of Japan printed for use in Indonesia and the NI used in Indonesia during the Japanese Occupation first one is from a catalogue the second is mine During the occupation the stamps on the Netherlands Indies,Japan,Malay,and even Manchuria were used in Indonesia .
Brian