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I thought these were simply made-up places, but found that they are, in fact, ACTUAL REPUBLICS in Russia that are semi-autonomous (even allowed to conduct affairs in their unique regional languages).
Does anyone have information on these (presumed) Cinderellas? Anyone collect them?
When I get home later I’ll try to post some scans.
Cheers, Dave
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Not for the "purist", but surprisingly nice stamps (if you like topicals) and on really good quality paper.
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I have about 40 or so of the Buriatia stamps, they are cinderellas as not produced by the authorities there, I like them anyway.
I also have quite a collection of many of the "local issues" from around the UK, the largest of my collections of these would be Staffa and probably one of the smallest would be Easdale Island.
You have a good mix there going by those you have shown, if you are going to sell these I would be very interested.
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From my fairly large collection of all paper items showing dogs,( cigarette cards, postcards, cigar bands etc ) here are a few scans.....for the breed enthusiast often of interest even when told they were produced simply to take their money and have no postal validity
Best wishes,
Brian.
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Chechnya (ickeria) is a breakaway province in Russia. I don't believe the UPU recognizes them for international mail, but perhaps internally they operate; i don't know.
I'm not sure of Brosnan's relationship to chechnya.
Staffa issues Cinderellas with great frequency; so i suspect those other Scottish islands do the same.
Kyrgystan is a country; formerly part of the USSR.
I suspect "Mordova" is a play on mords, sorry, words. There's a host of countries in that area that all have similar names, and this one appears to be smack dab in the middle. Moldova, Moravia, Moldavia.
David
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Mordovia is a former Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic and current federal subject of Russia, situated south of the Nizhny Novgorod district and north of the Penza district. The capital is Saransk. According to Wikipedia it never declared independence, and consequently hasn't got a postal administration of its own. The same applies to most of the other former autonomous republics or autonomous oblasts. Tuva (Touva, Tyva, Tannu Tuva) once was a state in its own right, but was absorbed by the Soviet Union already in 1944. Hence, most, if not all of the stamps purporting to be issued by or for these regions are just printed paper without any postal significance. AFAIK, the stamps of the "sand dunes" have been issued in the name of the governments and saw at least some (if not much) postal use.
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Eastdale Island, Scotland .... Holly spirit! You know, I saw a lot of "stickers" in my life, "Dunes" countries by all kind of names, it was popular in Soviet Union long time ago. Paraguay too (we call it "short set"), preprinted cancel on postage stamp or imprinted, how You want. Used to sell it to the Soviet Union by quantity of stamps in shipment, not by catalog number, or full set..... terrible that it is on market today too.
Actually, what is problem with this kind of "stamp"?
Person collect it, put it in album, after 50 or 120 year person pass away, and children will go to sell collection, this generation will put on internet question that "how much it worth", "I have collection of postage stamp" and in the end, disappointment STRUCK hard.
I, as part-time dealer, have a lot bad experience, when "the inheritors" contact me with: "my grand pa give me collection of stamps", and inside we have this "labels" - all hope of some valuable material go down.
So, if You wish to collect, and spend You free time for joy of Philately, do it the way, that someone, after you, didn't be disappointed!
Again, everyone can collect what he/she want, fine with me, just make difference between postage stamps and labels that look like as postage stamps!
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Received a big box of stamps today (from a non-SOR member). I was gobsmacked by the number of really nice looking, good paper quality, topicals from “countries” I had never heard of: Dagestan, Altai, Amurskata, Yakutia, etc etc etc …Reminiscent of the much maligned (but sometimes loved) “Dunes” but far superior!
I thought these were simply made-up places, but found that they are, in fact, ACTUAL REPUBLICS in Russia that are semi-autonomous (even allowed to conduct affairs in their unique regional languages).
Does anyone have information on these (presumed) Cinderellas? Anyone collect them?
When I get home later I’ll try to post some scans.
Cheers, Dave
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07:30:08pm
re: SCANS JUST ADDED !!! Scotland/Russia Stamps From Places I’ve Never Heard of…
Not for the "purist", but surprisingly nice stamps (if you like topicals) and on really good quality paper.
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02:26:15am
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I have about 40 or so of the Buriatia stamps, they are cinderellas as not produced by the authorities there, I like them anyway.
I also have quite a collection of many of the "local issues" from around the UK, the largest of my collections of these would be Staffa and probably one of the smallest would be Easdale Island.
You have a good mix there going by those you have shown, if you are going to sell these I would be very interested.
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re: SCANS JUST ADDED !!! Scotland/Russia Stamps From Places I’ve Never Heard of…
From my fairly large collection of all paper items showing dogs,( cigarette cards, postcards, cigar bands etc ) here are a few scans.....for the breed enthusiast often of interest even when told they were produced simply to take their money and have no postal validity
Best wishes,
Brian.
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re: SCANS JUST ADDED !!! Scotland/Russia Stamps From Places I’ve Never Heard of…
Chechnya (ickeria) is a breakaway province in Russia. I don't believe the UPU recognizes them for international mail, but perhaps internally they operate; i don't know.
I'm not sure of Brosnan's relationship to chechnya.
Staffa issues Cinderellas with great frequency; so i suspect those other Scottish islands do the same.
Kyrgystan is a country; formerly part of the USSR.
I suspect "Mordova" is a play on mords, sorry, words. There's a host of countries in that area that all have similar names, and this one appears to be smack dab in the middle. Moldova, Moravia, Moldavia.
David
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11:16:53am
re: SCANS JUST ADDED !!! Scotland/Russia Stamps From Places I’ve Never Heard of…
Mordovia is a former Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic and current federal subject of Russia, situated south of the Nizhny Novgorod district and north of the Penza district. The capital is Saransk. According to Wikipedia it never declared independence, and consequently hasn't got a postal administration of its own. The same applies to most of the other former autonomous republics or autonomous oblasts. Tuva (Touva, Tyva, Tannu Tuva) once was a state in its own right, but was absorbed by the Soviet Union already in 1944. Hence, most, if not all of the stamps purporting to be issued by or for these regions are just printed paper without any postal significance. AFAIK, the stamps of the "sand dunes" have been issued in the name of the governments and saw at least some (if not much) postal use.
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re: SCANS JUST ADDED !!! Scotland/Russia Stamps From Places I’ve Never Heard of…
Eastdale Island, Scotland .... Holly spirit! You know, I saw a lot of "stickers" in my life, "Dunes" countries by all kind of names, it was popular in Soviet Union long time ago. Paraguay too (we call it "short set"), preprinted cancel on postage stamp or imprinted, how You want. Used to sell it to the Soviet Union by quantity of stamps in shipment, not by catalog number, or full set..... terrible that it is on market today too.
Actually, what is problem with this kind of "stamp"?
Person collect it, put it in album, after 50 or 120 year person pass away, and children will go to sell collection, this generation will put on internet question that "how much it worth", "I have collection of postage stamp" and in the end, disappointment STRUCK hard.
I, as part-time dealer, have a lot bad experience, when "the inheritors" contact me with: "my grand pa give me collection of stamps", and inside we have this "labels" - all hope of some valuable material go down.
So, if You wish to collect, and spend You free time for joy of Philately, do it the way, that someone, after you, didn't be disappointed!
Again, everyone can collect what he/she want, fine with me, just make difference between postage stamps and labels that look like as postage stamps!
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