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Where might I find free, printable stamp pages for Pitcairn Island Stamps?
I acquired a few stamps, read about the Island`s history and I`m thinking about starting a new collection.Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Cheryl
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There is a download on AlbumEasy's web site
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One of my favorite areas to collect.
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04:20:31pm
Cheryl,
While I cannot help with your page query, I want to point out
that the Pitcairn Islands were settled by the mutineers of the
HMS Bounty under the command of Captain Bligh, a very cruel
taskmaster.. There are three books by Nordhoff and Hall.
(Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall.)
They wrote;
Mutiny on the Bounty,
Men against the Sea,
Pitcairn Island
You will get a lot more out of Pitcairn Island, French Polynesian
and Samoan stamps having read all three books. I first read them
separately when I was about 10 - 12 and again fifteen or twenty
years later after visiting the Bounty Replica from the movies
about the HMS Bounty all together is sequence.
I'd send you my copies, but they must have been tossed out at some
time over the years.
Charlie
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Charlie,
I live not far from Lunenburg where my shipbuilding cousins helped build the replica of the Bounty. Pitcairn Islands are indeed a n interesting country for stamp collectors.I have read a few books on the Bounty...now off to the library to seek a few you mentioned.
Cheryl
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I took a look at the album pages that Al linked to above. Who ever created the pages for Pitcairn Island has done a really nice job! They have the AlbumEasy code file there plus a PDF of the pages that you can just print.
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Was Bligh really that cruel? Any more than others at that time? And is he not worthy of recognition for his seamanship - after being cast way in a 23 foot open boat in mid Pacific with 18 men, he navigated 3600 miles to safety in the Dutch East Indies without losing a single man on the journey. Admittedly three of the men did die soon after landfall. But that's a pretty remarkable piece of leadership and seamanship.
Rather oddly, Ros and I encountered Bligh this summer. We stayed in the village of Manaccan in Cornwall, where I hear that Bligh appeared at the end of his career. It seems that in his later years, during the Napoleonic wars, he was sent by the Admiralty to report on the defensibilty of Fowey and the Helford river on the Lizard. The story is that the locals thought he was a French spy, and he was arrested by the constables, who took him to be interrogated by the vicar of Manaccan, a magistrate and the only person of any standing and education in those remote parts at that time. Bligh was locked in the vicar's coal shed for the night, but after all had departed, the vicar went out and questioned him through the locked door. Deciding after a few minutes' conversation that Bligh was indeed what he said he was, the vicar released him and took him into the vicarage, gave him supper and wine and had him stay the night. He left early the next morning.
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You must remember that at the time of the Bounty Mutiny, England was in a state of war against, who else, but France. Therefore wartime regulations were in effect.
The Court Martial acquitted Comanding Lieutenant Bligh of any wrong doing regarding the loss of HM Armed Vessel Bounty.
A few years later, a now Captain Bligh, of HMS Director, was involved in another mutiny. This one involved several ships, and was a revolt over seaman's pay and involuntary service. Bligh was not court martialed due to the nature of the mutiny and that many ships were involved.
Nine years later, Bligh was appointed Governor of New South Wales. Bligh found out that some senior officers of the New South Wales Corps, and well-to-do citizens were engaging in illegal private trading for profit schemes. Bligh was a confrontational leader, and would not compromise, a trait that was considered by some to be partly to blame for the Bounty mutiny. He attempted to stop this activity. The officer in charge of the corps, and 400 soldiers marched on Government House and placed Bligh under arrest and imprisoned for a year-and-a-half after Bligh tried to solicit help to end what became known as "The Rum Rebellion". In 1810, Bligh, still in prison, received a letter from the British Foreign Office with notice that the rebellion had been declared a mutiny, making it an illegal act. Bligh was freed, and the senior officer who led the mutiny was court martialed, and "cashiered" out of the service. That was a light sentence, considering the actions.
Despite the three mutinies, and his confrontational style of leadership, Bligh excelled in his leadership, and seamanship abilities. He rose to the rank of admiral later on in his career, and was celebrated for a stellar career in the Royal Navy.
The leader of the Bounty Mutiny, Fletcher Christian, however, was never heard from again after landfall on Pitcairn. He is presumed to have been murdered by his men.
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Just an FYI:
The free Pitcairn pages Angore refers to only cover 1990 - 2005.
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Yes Thankyou
Good to know
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"...Was Bligh really that cruel?... "
It appears the mistake Bligh made was stopping in the Polynesia for an extended period. He did a magnificent job for his seamanship ......
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Nordhoff & Hall's trilogy about the mutiny on the Bounty is a great read; my wife and I read all three books to each other just last year (and I had read them in high school). But they are historical novels, and as such cannot tell us precisely what happened in Tahiti, or on Pitcairn, or in the open boat that Bligh navigated to Timor. But yes, I agree that the trilogy makes the stamps of Pitcairn Island (and Tahiti) all that more interesting.
And Bligh, well, he probably has been badly mistreated by history. As Churchill said, "The traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash".
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" ... "...Was Bligh really that cruel?... " ..."
In the customs of the Royal Navy of the day, Captain
Bligh was probably not much worse than other ship
commanders. Bligh was known as a man with a sharp
tongue and often he made enemies of other officers.
Discipline at sea was usually harsh in every navy, and
at times simply cruel. The prospect of the long voyage
to the West Indies and on to England might have felt
like a death sentence to some of the crew anyway.
Remaining in Tahiti for about six months allowed the
sailors to develop relationships that would never be
equaled at home.
Bligh's command was a victim of two further mutinies.
One when the whole British fleet rebelled and one as
governor of New South Wale.
Plainly he was, at the least, wanting in people skills.
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I had read about the harsh treatment of the crew but was surprised to learn about there being women and children on board . Something I did not know......
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02:28:28am
' ... I had read about the harsh treatment of the crew
but was surprised to lean about there being women and
children on board ...'
Unless my memory has completely failed, there were no
women leaving Spithead on the HMS Bounty or initially
when leaving Tahiti for the return trip.
Although occasionally Captains did bring their spouse
along on for long voyages, and the HMS Bounty was
designed was a merchant cargo vessel, it had been
purchased by the Royal Navy for the voyage.
It was commissioned as an armed naval ship, subject
to Royal Navy rules.
Christian took her first to a nearby island, and then
back to Tahiti.
The mutineers soon realized that they they could not
remain in Papeete for too long.
So those who wished to avoid swift British justice from
a passing RN ship's Captain packed up, bringing their willing
companions along and set sail seeking a remote unsettled
island that might not be on the navy's maps. According to
modern research many of the Tahitians who sailed then had been
lured aboard and were actually kidnapped.
Pitcairn was ideal as it was quite off the beaten routes
and its Longitude and Latitude on existing maps was incorrect.
On that voyage there were women aboard, willingly or otherwise.
Once established on Pitcairn they took everything of use
ashore and burned what was left of the ship
They were safe for almost twenty years until a passing American
Whaling vessel stopped. Since relations with Great Britain were
not exactly amicable between 1800 and about 1820 I assume the news
did not get shared freely. It took about another fifteen or so
years before the Royal Navy found the descendants of the mutineers.
The entire story is fascinating.
The Replica of the HMS Bounty was moored at a pier in St Petersburg,
Florida for many years and open to the public. I took my kids and
visitors there several times and liked to point out that the sailor's
bunks, and hatches (doorways to you.) would have been very uncomfortable
for me as they we made for the men of the day and I am a foot taller.
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The length of time spent on Tahiti was due to their arriving too late. The breadfruit had gone dormant as the growing season had ended. They had to wait for the next growing season.
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Just a quick question .
Where might I find free, printable stamp pages for Pitcairn Island Stamps?
I acquired a few stamps, read about the Island`s history and I`m thinking about starting a new collection.Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Cheryl
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There is a download on AlbumEasy's web site
https://www.thestampweb.com/albums/free-downloads
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One of my favorite areas to collect.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
18 Oct 2021
04:20:31pm
re: Pitcairn Island stamp pages
Cheryl,
While I cannot help with your page query, I want to point out
that the Pitcairn Islands were settled by the mutineers of the
HMS Bounty under the command of Captain Bligh, a very cruel
taskmaster.. There are three books by Nordhoff and Hall.
(Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall.)
They wrote;
Mutiny on the Bounty,
Men against the Sea,
Pitcairn Island
You will get a lot more out of Pitcairn Island, French Polynesian
and Samoan stamps having read all three books. I first read them
separately when I was about 10 - 12 and again fifteen or twenty
years later after visiting the Bounty Replica from the movies
about the HMS Bounty all together is sequence.
I'd send you my copies, but they must have been tossed out at some
time over the years.
Charlie
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Charlie,
I live not far from Lunenburg where my shipbuilding cousins helped build the replica of the Bounty. Pitcairn Islands are indeed a n interesting country for stamp collectors.I have read a few books on the Bounty...now off to the library to seek a few you mentioned.
Cheryl
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I took a look at the album pages that Al linked to above. Who ever created the pages for Pitcairn Island has done a really nice job! They have the AlbumEasy code file there plus a PDF of the pages that you can just print.
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Was Bligh really that cruel? Any more than others at that time? And is he not worthy of recognition for his seamanship - after being cast way in a 23 foot open boat in mid Pacific with 18 men, he navigated 3600 miles to safety in the Dutch East Indies without losing a single man on the journey. Admittedly three of the men did die soon after landfall. But that's a pretty remarkable piece of leadership and seamanship.
Rather oddly, Ros and I encountered Bligh this summer. We stayed in the village of Manaccan in Cornwall, where I hear that Bligh appeared at the end of his career. It seems that in his later years, during the Napoleonic wars, he was sent by the Admiralty to report on the defensibilty of Fowey and the Helford river on the Lizard. The story is that the locals thought he was a French spy, and he was arrested by the constables, who took him to be interrogated by the vicar of Manaccan, a magistrate and the only person of any standing and education in those remote parts at that time. Bligh was locked in the vicar's coal shed for the night, but after all had departed, the vicar went out and questioned him through the locked door. Deciding after a few minutes' conversation that Bligh was indeed what he said he was, the vicar released him and took him into the vicarage, gave him supper and wine and had him stay the night. He left early the next morning.
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You must remember that at the time of the Bounty Mutiny, England was in a state of war against, who else, but France. Therefore wartime regulations were in effect.
The Court Martial acquitted Comanding Lieutenant Bligh of any wrong doing regarding the loss of HM Armed Vessel Bounty.
A few years later, a now Captain Bligh, of HMS Director, was involved in another mutiny. This one involved several ships, and was a revolt over seaman's pay and involuntary service. Bligh was not court martialed due to the nature of the mutiny and that many ships were involved.
Nine years later, Bligh was appointed Governor of New South Wales. Bligh found out that some senior officers of the New South Wales Corps, and well-to-do citizens were engaging in illegal private trading for profit schemes. Bligh was a confrontational leader, and would not compromise, a trait that was considered by some to be partly to blame for the Bounty mutiny. He attempted to stop this activity. The officer in charge of the corps, and 400 soldiers marched on Government House and placed Bligh under arrest and imprisoned for a year-and-a-half after Bligh tried to solicit help to end what became known as "The Rum Rebellion". In 1810, Bligh, still in prison, received a letter from the British Foreign Office with notice that the rebellion had been declared a mutiny, making it an illegal act. Bligh was freed, and the senior officer who led the mutiny was court martialed, and "cashiered" out of the service. That was a light sentence, considering the actions.
Despite the three mutinies, and his confrontational style of leadership, Bligh excelled in his leadership, and seamanship abilities. He rose to the rank of admiral later on in his career, and was celebrated for a stellar career in the Royal Navy.
The leader of the Bounty Mutiny, Fletcher Christian, however, was never heard from again after landfall on Pitcairn. He is presumed to have been murdered by his men.
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Just an FYI:
The free Pitcairn pages Angore refers to only cover 1990 - 2005.
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Yes Thankyou
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"...Was Bligh really that cruel?... "
It appears the mistake Bligh made was stopping in the Polynesia for an extended period. He did a magnificent job for his seamanship ......
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Nordhoff & Hall's trilogy about the mutiny on the Bounty is a great read; my wife and I read all three books to each other just last year (and I had read them in high school). But they are historical novels, and as such cannot tell us precisely what happened in Tahiti, or on Pitcairn, or in the open boat that Bligh navigated to Timor. But yes, I agree that the trilogy makes the stamps of Pitcairn Island (and Tahiti) all that more interesting.
And Bligh, well, he probably has been badly mistreated by history. As Churchill said, "The traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash".
Bob
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09:22:32pm
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" ... "...Was Bligh really that cruel?... " ..."
In the customs of the Royal Navy of the day, Captain
Bligh was probably not much worse than other ship
commanders. Bligh was known as a man with a sharp
tongue and often he made enemies of other officers.
Discipline at sea was usually harsh in every navy, and
at times simply cruel. The prospect of the long voyage
to the West Indies and on to England might have felt
like a death sentence to some of the crew anyway.
Remaining in Tahiti for about six months allowed the
sailors to develop relationships that would never be
equaled at home.
Bligh's command was a victim of two further mutinies.
One when the whole British fleet rebelled and one as
governor of New South Wale.
Plainly he was, at the least, wanting in people skills.
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I had read about the harsh treatment of the crew but was surprised to learn about there being women and children on board . Something I did not know......
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' ... I had read about the harsh treatment of the crew
but was surprised to lean about there being women and
children on board ...'
Unless my memory has completely failed, there were no
women leaving Spithead on the HMS Bounty or initially
when leaving Tahiti for the return trip.
Although occasionally Captains did bring their spouse
along on for long voyages, and the HMS Bounty was
designed was a merchant cargo vessel, it had been
purchased by the Royal Navy for the voyage.
It was commissioned as an armed naval ship, subject
to Royal Navy rules.
Christian took her first to a nearby island, and then
back to Tahiti.
The mutineers soon realized that they they could not
remain in Papeete for too long.
So those who wished to avoid swift British justice from
a passing RN ship's Captain packed up, bringing their willing
companions along and set sail seeking a remote unsettled
island that might not be on the navy's maps. According to
modern research many of the Tahitians who sailed then had been
lured aboard and were actually kidnapped.
Pitcairn was ideal as it was quite off the beaten routes
and its Longitude and Latitude on existing maps was incorrect.
On that voyage there were women aboard, willingly or otherwise.
Once established on Pitcairn they took everything of use
ashore and burned what was left of the ship
They were safe for almost twenty years until a passing American
Whaling vessel stopped. Since relations with Great Britain were
not exactly amicable between 1800 and about 1820 I assume the news
did not get shared freely. It took about another fifteen or so
years before the Royal Navy found the descendants of the mutineers.
The entire story is fascinating.
The Replica of the HMS Bounty was moored at a pier in St Petersburg,
Florida for many years and open to the public. I took my kids and
visitors there several times and liked to point out that the sailor's
bunks, and hatches (doorways to you.) would have been very uncomfortable
for me as they we made for the men of the day and I am a foot taller.
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The length of time spent on Tahiti was due to their arriving too late. The breadfruit had gone dormant as the growing season had ended. They had to wait for the next growing season.
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