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Latin America/All : Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

 

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Calstamp

15 Oct 2021
06:59:46pm

Am hoping a Guatemala expert such as Mr. PhilB will set me straight.

Recently came into possession of a small country collection. My question pertains to the set identified by Scott as 114 through 123.

The catalogue indicates a perforation range of 12 to 16. Does this mean each stamp in the series was produced in multiple perforation varieties? Or does it mean the series in-toto ranges from 12 to 16?

Thanks in advance.

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15 Oct 2021
09:40:31pm
re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

Hello Calstamp, by some coincidence the Waterlow set of 1902 is one of my very favorites and the 10 cent Lake Amatitlan could by my favorite judging on the number of them that i have. To try and answer your question i went to my little Guatemala library . I found this in "The Postage Stamps of Guatemala 1871-1999 by Cecile M. Gruson and David L. Jickling. Recess engraved by Waterlow and Sons ltd. London in sheets of 100 (10x10) Authorized by decree of September 12, and issued on September 15 1902 excpt the 75c (October 11) a wide variety of perforations regular and iregular exist in the many printings of this issue. The most frequent perforations are 13.9 (e) 14.1 (d) and 14.9 (b) which were in use during the last 10 years . There were earlier Perforators guaging 13.7(g) 13.5(h) 15.6-15.8 (a) 14.2-15.2(c) and 11.8 or 12.5 (f). To be honest i do not get too involved with the perf sizes. Sadly Waterlow and the Guatemala 1902 plates were a victim of the London Blitz.

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Calstamp

16 Oct 2021
08:51:48am
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Thank you, philb. Appreciate the detailed response. Sounds like I now need to dig out my "duplicates" and check the perforation on each.

Agree, the "lake" issue is quite nice. Actually, the entire series is an example of the beautiful engraved stamps of the early 20C.

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16 Oct 2021
10:04:55am
re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

No problem, its nice to see interest in stamps from our Hemisphere !

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16 Oct 2021
01:29:57pm
re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

It is a really nice series, and I too had not paid much attention to the perforations. I did however see minor color variations worth displaying side by side. I too will, gage in hand, take another look at my duplicates.
Thanks for the explanations Philb.
rrr...

What gage do you use to tell apart a 13.9 from a 14.1, for example?

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16 Oct 2021
01:42:02pm
re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

Hello RRR, if i collected by the perfs it would never end..i look for cancels, different types of overprints, etc;

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16 Oct 2021
02:41:48pm
re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

The 13.9 or 14.1 seem by far the most common, but what gage do you use to tell apart a 13.9 from a 14.1? Next would be ~15 perf
There are definite color variations, but I cannot tell if they relate to a specific perf.
rrr..

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Calstamp

15 Oct 2021
06:59:46pm


Am hoping a Guatemala expert such as Mr. PhilB will set me straight.

Recently came into possession of a small country collection. My question pertains to the set identified by Scott as 114 through 123.

The catalogue indicates a perforation range of 12 to 16. Does this mean each stamp in the series was produced in multiple perforation varieties? Or does it mean the series in-toto ranges from 12 to 16?

Thanks in advance.

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philb

15 Oct 2021
09:40:31pm

re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

Hello Calstamp, by some coincidence the Waterlow set of 1902 is one of my very favorites and the 10 cent Lake Amatitlan could by my favorite judging on the number of them that i have. To try and answer your question i went to my little Guatemala library . I found this in "The Postage Stamps of Guatemala 1871-1999 by Cecile M. Gruson and David L. Jickling. Recess engraved by Waterlow and Sons ltd. London in sheets of 100 (10x10) Authorized by decree of September 12, and issued on September 15 1902 excpt the 75c (October 11) a wide variety of perforations regular and iregular exist in the many printings of this issue. The most frequent perforations are 13.9 (e) 14.1 (d) and 14.9 (b) which were in use during the last 10 years . There were earlier Perforators guaging 13.7(g) 13.5(h) 15.6-15.8 (a) 14.2-15.2(c) and 11.8 or 12.5 (f). To be honest i do not get too involved with the perf sizes. Sadly Waterlow and the Guatemala 1902 plates were a victim of the London Blitz.

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16 Oct 2021
08:51:48am

re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings


Thank you, philb. Appreciate the detailed response. Sounds like I now need to dig out my "duplicates" and check the perforation on each.

Agree, the "lake" issue is quite nice. Actually, the entire series is an example of the beautiful engraved stamps of the early 20C.

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16 Oct 2021
10:04:55am

re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

No problem, its nice to see interest in stamps from our Hemisphere !

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Retired Consultant APS#186030
16 Oct 2021
01:29:57pm

re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

It is a really nice series, and I too had not paid much attention to the perforations. I did however see minor color variations worth displaying side by side. I too will, gage in hand, take another look at my duplicates.
Thanks for the explanations Philb.
rrr...

What gage do you use to tell apart a 13.9 from a 14.1, for example?

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"E. Rutherford: All science is either physics or stamp collecting."
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philb

16 Oct 2021
01:42:02pm

re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

Hello RRR, if i collected by the perfs it would never end..i look for cancels, different types of overprints, etc;

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"And every hair is measured like every grain of sand"
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rrraphy

Retired Consultant APS#186030
16 Oct 2021
02:41:48pm

re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

The 13.9 or 14.1 seem by far the most common, but what gage do you use to tell apart a 13.9 from a 14.1? Next would be ~15 perf
There are definite color variations, but I cannot tell if they relate to a specific perf.
rrr..

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re: Guatemala: 1902 Historic Monuments and Buildings

"but what gage do you use to tell apart a 13.9 from a 14.1?"



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