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09 Sep 2021
02:44:51pm
Some time ago I purchased a rather beautiful International Junior Postage Stamp Album from Scott Stamp and Coin Company Ltd. copyright 1930 and started a ten year project to see what stamps I could add to this nearly perfect 90 year old album. Since the album was in such extraordinary shape, I have elected to add only uncancelled stamps to the album.

In my usual approach to albums, I created an Excel spreadsheet with counts of the stamps required to complete each country or collectible entity within the album. For example, I break down some countries such as Austria to counts for Austria, Austria - Issued under Italian Occupation, Austria - Offices in Crete, Austria - Offices in the Turkish Empire, and Lombardy-Venetia. For this album, I counted the pictured albums, the empty spaces, the number of issues from the 19th century, and added columns for the number of stamps I have and the number of extras that get added to the album for various reasons (mostly to add items for a short set). I, also, created a column which adds the counts for pictured albums and space then divides it by the number of stamps I have to give me a percentage completion via a formula.

Total pictured or described stamps for this album was 21,886 with 642 spaces that are empty and available for adding a collector specified part of a set. This album had 5,732 pictured, described, or empty spaces which will require stamps from the 19th century for the location.

Here are some pictures of the album's cover and initial pages:

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09 Sep 2021
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Here is the first page in the album as of 9/9/2021 which contains stamps:

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09 Sep 2021
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Here is my first completed page in the album:

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09 Sep 2021
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Here is the first page with stamps not from the United States of America:

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09 Sep 2021
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09 Sep 2021
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Here is the first completed page for world stamps:

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And the second completed page:

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09 Sep 2021
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Here is the first completed country in the album, Azerbaijan, and note that it includes some extras:

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09 Sep 2021
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Here is another completed page, it is for Bavaria:

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09 Sep 2021
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Today, I marked a milestone for this album of 5,015 different stamps in the album for 22.26% complete plus 160 additional stamps that were added beyond the required stamps in the album. This was accomplished by completing a new page for semi-postal stamps from Switzerland and provided impetus for starting to document the progress for this album. I hope it proves interesting.

Here is the newest completed page for the album:

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Now the page I would most like to see completed is the next one in the album which is for Syria. Why you might ask do I find this page so challenging? It contains what is normally considered to be the rarest stamp required to complete the Scott International albums, Scott #106c or Yvert #90a (I don't have access to a Stanley Gibbons catalog which covers Syria in order to get the appropriate Stanley Gibbons number and Colnect doesn't show this stamp either nor do I have access to the appropriate Michel catalog.) This stamp is a 25 centiemes overprint on a green 10 centiemes stamp from the 1921-23 France stamp issued where the overprint reads Syrie Grand Liban. Normally this overprint is on an orange 5 centiemes from France while an alternate overprint of 50 centiemes was done on the green 10 centiemes French stamp. Most observers think that only one sheet of 100 stamps was issued based on the number of stamps that have been found to date. Interestingly a space for this stamp is not included in the Scott Brown album for 1920-29 nor in the Scott Specialty album for Syria. Currently Apfelbaum's has a "complete" expanded International album for 1840-1940 for sale that per their web site is 95% composed of mint stamps (although I think it is likely the collection is closer to 85-90% mint stamps based on a review of the 300 posted pages and some additional pages for Great Britain and Syria stamps that were sent to me by request). Even this monumental collection does omit the Syria stamp!

While this stamp is fairly expensive in the context of the International albums, the real problem is not its catalog value but the absolute rarity of the stamp. Of course, it is possible that someone somewhere does have a stash of these stamps which have never appeared on the market!

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21 Nov 2021
02:54:32am
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I have continued to add stamps to my 1930 copyright International Junior album and can now report that I have reached 5,155 different mint stamps in the album with stamps for 294 of 439 different stamp issuing entities that I have defined for the album. Part of the reason why my progress has been so slow is that I check new stamps that I acquire to make sure they are not missing from my primary collection which is an International 1840-1963 collection which includes pages for Parts 1A1-1B2 as that album has priority for new additions. The 1840-1940 portion of that collection has just reached 16,110 different mint stamps in its pages while the total collection is at 39,451 different mint stamps plus 1,014 tip-ins.

I continue to take the 1930 album with me during most visits for stamp shows, stores, and club meetings due to its physical size and to take advantage of any opportunities to check for new additions. The most recent additions were found in APS circuit books received by a local stamp club.

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That's really nice/impressive jbaxter5256. About a year ago we were having our house repainted, rain gutters replaced, etc., and I found out that the G.O. Wiegner collection was for sale and stored in a warehouse in Palm City, FL (no Shipping charges). I figured my wife would mot know if I bought it, with all of the other expenses. That idea was blown when five 4' square boxes showed up in our driveway. In addition to the "tons" of stuff there were two of the International Junior Albums - in terrible shape. I have been looking at the stamps in these two Albums occasionally - nothing of much interest. I have been asked where I am getting all of the "stuff" I am listing on SOR, Ebay, and Hipstamp. Now you know the answer. G.O. Wiegner specialized in Canada, the Canal Zone, Japan, and the UN. I think his only mistake was specializing in the UN.

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21 Nov 2021
09:05:16am
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This has been quite interesting.
It is making me think seriously about doing the same thing (albeit with used) with my 1942 edition of the same album.
I am not a WW collector, but I do acquire WW stamps regularly from used albums/collections that I buy now and then.

Seeing these pages makes me keep leaning towards doing this myself...as if I don't have enough collections to keep up with now!

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21 Nov 2021
12:43:20pm
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As an additional item that may be of minor interest, I reported earlier that the 1930 International album has 5,732 spaces for stamps issued in the 19th century. This morning I went through the album and counted how many of those issues are currently present in the album adding a column for 19th century have stamps to my Excel spreadsheet and arrived at a total of 871 different issues of the 5,155 stamps currently mounted in the album! A side benefit was that I found a few stamps that were still in the margins and not mounted as yet since I checked every page of the album plus one country where my count had not been updated when the stamps were added to the album so got to add a few more stamps to my report from last night which has been edited to reflect the additions. Not a big move overall with only six stamps added to the count but somewhat significant in that an additional three stamp issuing entities were recognized as present in the album.

Of course, this totally pales in comparison to a local friend's 40 year collection based on a Scott Brown 19th century album which looks to be approaching 50% or possibly even higher based on the appearance of the album. He has never attempted to count the number of entries but it would really fascinate me to quantify his album further. I had acquired a 19th century Scott Brown album thinking that I might want to use it as a base for a collection but gave up before I even finished counting the entries by stamp issuing entity in the mostly empty album after looking at the catalog values associated with some of the earliest countries in the album and realizing it would be impossible for me to significantly fill it based on my projected lifetime and available budget for stamps. We did find two stamps for his album from the small number of stamps that had been previously added to my Scott Brown 19th century album by the original owner so I was able to gift him a bit of progress for his collection as a small recompense for the joy I received from seeing his album!

As a point of clarification, I consider a stamp to be an issue of the 19th century if the date heading in the album lists a beginning date of 1899 or lower which may slightly overstate both the number of 19th century issues possible for the album as well as of the stamps that I have that are 19th century issues. There are some stamp sets where the stamps have been grouped by Scott into a set of similar designs which were actually issued over a longer term that might encompass stamps actually issued in the 20th century. Since my collecting is often limited to album listed rather than catalog listed varieties this provides a somewhat consistent approach. In theory I could go through the catalog and pull out the actual issue dates of the individual listed stamps but given that catalogs sometimes change and are, also, often quite arbitrary on what date of issues is defined for the stamp this has its problems as well.

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22 Nov 2021
03:53:46am
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Image Not FoundA friend of mine gave me her father's world-wide collection in two volumes up to 1932. This gives me a lot of effort to continue it and try to complete the albums. I also use a world-wide single volume Y&T catalog from 1934. Therefore theoretically my collection, including the catalog, would stand on a one-foot shelf. Alas, the reality is slihjtly different: two yards plus a lot of boxes, spare albums, duplicates, etc. I do enjoy. MichelImage Not Found

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23 Nov 2021
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That is quite a nice Yvert album that you are using. Thanks for sharing the images!

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23 Nov 2021
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I have continued to add stamps to my 1930 copyright International album which happens to be physically small enough to actually carry with me to stamp club meetings, shows, etc. and can now report that I have reached 5,552 different of the 22,945 stamps required to complete the album for 24.2% complete with representative stamps from 309 defined collecting entities for the album. Sources for the stamps have included APS circuit books, red boxes at two local dealers, and a few items from eBay and Hipstamp. Also, I now have 949 different of the 5,778 different 19th century stamps in the album. I added a significant number of stamps for Iceland in particular this past week and have picked up quite a few stamps for the USA as well. Other than the very first page of the album all stamps in the album continue to be mint and it is starting to look quite nice. Other than this album and one other everything is currently in storage pending a cross country move which is currently projected to occur during November following a road trip down the west coast after completing sale of our home in a couple of weeks. Those two albums I hope to keep with me during the trip, probably my version of a child's security blanket. Happy

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09 Sep 2021
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Some time ago I purchased a rather beautiful International Junior Postage Stamp Album from Scott Stamp and Coin Company Ltd. copyright 1930 and started a ten year project to see what stamps I could add to this nearly perfect 90 year old album. Since the album was in such extraordinary shape, I have elected to add only uncancelled stamps to the album.

In my usual approach to albums, I created an Excel spreadsheet with counts of the stamps required to complete each country or collectible entity within the album. For example, I break down some countries such as Austria to counts for Austria, Austria - Issued under Italian Occupation, Austria - Offices in Crete, Austria - Offices in the Turkish Empire, and Lombardy-Venetia. For this album, I counted the pictured albums, the empty spaces, the number of issues from the 19th century, and added columns for the number of stamps I have and the number of extras that get added to the album for various reasons (mostly to add items for a short set). I, also, created a column which adds the counts for pictured albums and space then divides it by the number of stamps I have to give me a percentage completion via a formula.

Total pictured or described stamps for this album was 21,886 with 642 spaces that are empty and available for adding a collector specified part of a set. This album had 5,732 pictured, described, or empty spaces which will require stamps from the 19th century for the location.

Here are some pictures of the album's cover and initial pages:

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09 Sep 2021
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Here is the first completed page for world stamps:

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Here is the first completed country in the album, Azerbaijan, and note that it includes some extras:

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Here is another completed page, it is for Bavaria:

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09 Sep 2021
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re: Collecting the World in a Vintage Album

Today, I marked a milestone for this album of 5,015 different stamps in the album for 22.26% complete plus 160 additional stamps that were added beyond the required stamps in the album. This was accomplished by completing a new page for semi-postal stamps from Switzerland and provided impetus for starting to document the progress for this album. I hope it proves interesting.

Here is the newest completed page for the album:

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Now the page I would most like to see completed is the next one in the album which is for Syria. Why you might ask do I find this page so challenging? It contains what is normally considered to be the rarest stamp required to complete the Scott International albums, Scott #106c or Yvert #90a (I don't have access to a Stanley Gibbons catalog which covers Syria in order to get the appropriate Stanley Gibbons number and Colnect doesn't show this stamp either nor do I have access to the appropriate Michel catalog.) This stamp is a 25 centiemes overprint on a green 10 centiemes stamp from the 1921-23 France stamp issued where the overprint reads Syrie Grand Liban. Normally this overprint is on an orange 5 centiemes from France while an alternate overprint of 50 centiemes was done on the green 10 centiemes French stamp. Most observers think that only one sheet of 100 stamps was issued based on the number of stamps that have been found to date. Interestingly a space for this stamp is not included in the Scott Brown album for 1920-29 nor in the Scott Specialty album for Syria. Currently Apfelbaum's has a "complete" expanded International album for 1840-1940 for sale that per their web site is 95% composed of mint stamps (although I think it is likely the collection is closer to 85-90% mint stamps based on a review of the 300 posted pages and some additional pages for Great Britain and Syria stamps that were sent to me by request). Even this monumental collection does omit the Syria stamp!

While this stamp is fairly expensive in the context of the International albums, the real problem is not its catalog value but the absolute rarity of the stamp. Of course, it is possible that someone somewhere does have a stash of these stamps which have never appeared on the market!

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21 Nov 2021
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I have continued to add stamps to my 1930 copyright International Junior album and can now report that I have reached 5,155 different mint stamps in the album with stamps for 294 of 439 different stamp issuing entities that I have defined for the album. Part of the reason why my progress has been so slow is that I check new stamps that I acquire to make sure they are not missing from my primary collection which is an International 1840-1963 collection which includes pages for Parts 1A1-1B2 as that album has priority for new additions. The 1840-1940 portion of that collection has just reached 16,110 different mint stamps in its pages while the total collection is at 39,451 different mint stamps plus 1,014 tip-ins.

I continue to take the 1930 album with me during most visits for stamp shows, stores, and club meetings due to its physical size and to take advantage of any opportunities to check for new additions. The most recent additions were found in APS circuit books received by a local stamp club.

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That's really nice/impressive jbaxter5256. About a year ago we were having our house repainted, rain gutters replaced, etc., and I found out that the G.O. Wiegner collection was for sale and stored in a warehouse in Palm City, FL (no Shipping charges). I figured my wife would mot know if I bought it, with all of the other expenses. That idea was blown when five 4' square boxes showed up in our driveway. In addition to the "tons" of stuff there were two of the International Junior Albums - in terrible shape. I have been looking at the stamps in these two Albums occasionally - nothing of much interest. I have been asked where I am getting all of the "stuff" I am listing on SOR, Ebay, and Hipstamp. Now you know the answer. G.O. Wiegner specialized in Canada, the Canal Zone, Japan, and the UN. I think his only mistake was specializing in the UN.

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This has been quite interesting.
It is making me think seriously about doing the same thing (albeit with used) with my 1942 edition of the same album.
I am not a WW collector, but I do acquire WW stamps regularly from used albums/collections that I buy now and then.

Seeing these pages makes me keep leaning towards doing this myself...as if I don't have enough collections to keep up with now!

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As an additional item that may be of minor interest, I reported earlier that the 1930 International album has 5,732 spaces for stamps issued in the 19th century. This morning I went through the album and counted how many of those issues are currently present in the album adding a column for 19th century have stamps to my Excel spreadsheet and arrived at a total of 871 different issues of the 5,155 stamps currently mounted in the album! A side benefit was that I found a few stamps that were still in the margins and not mounted as yet since I checked every page of the album plus one country where my count had not been updated when the stamps were added to the album so got to add a few more stamps to my report from last night which has been edited to reflect the additions. Not a big move overall with only six stamps added to the count but somewhat significant in that an additional three stamp issuing entities were recognized as present in the album.

Of course, this totally pales in comparison to a local friend's 40 year collection based on a Scott Brown 19th century album which looks to be approaching 50% or possibly even higher based on the appearance of the album. He has never attempted to count the number of entries but it would really fascinate me to quantify his album further. I had acquired a 19th century Scott Brown album thinking that I might want to use it as a base for a collection but gave up before I even finished counting the entries by stamp issuing entity in the mostly empty album after looking at the catalog values associated with some of the earliest countries in the album and realizing it would be impossible for me to significantly fill it based on my projected lifetime and available budget for stamps. We did find two stamps for his album from the small number of stamps that had been previously added to my Scott Brown 19th century album by the original owner so I was able to gift him a bit of progress for his collection as a small recompense for the joy I received from seeing his album!

As a point of clarification, I consider a stamp to be an issue of the 19th century if the date heading in the album lists a beginning date of 1899 or lower which may slightly overstate both the number of 19th century issues possible for the album as well as of the stamps that I have that are 19th century issues. There are some stamp sets where the stamps have been grouped by Scott into a set of similar designs which were actually issued over a longer term that might encompass stamps actually issued in the 20th century. Since my collecting is often limited to album listed rather than catalog listed varieties this provides a somewhat consistent approach. In theory I could go through the catalog and pull out the actual issue dates of the individual listed stamps but given that catalogs sometimes change and are, also, often quite arbitrary on what date of issues is defined for the stamp this has its problems as well.

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Image Not FoundA friend of mine gave me her father's world-wide collection in two volumes up to 1932. This gives me a lot of effort to continue it and try to complete the albums. I also use a world-wide single volume Y&T catalog from 1934. Therefore theoretically my collection, including the catalog, would stand on a one-foot shelf. Alas, the reality is slihjtly different: two yards plus a lot of boxes, spare albums, duplicates, etc. I do enjoy. MichelImage Not Found

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That is quite a nice Yvert album that you are using. Thanks for sharing the images!

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I have continued to add stamps to my 1930 copyright International album which happens to be physically small enough to actually carry with me to stamp club meetings, shows, etc. and can now report that I have reached 5,552 different of the 22,945 stamps required to complete the album for 24.2% complete with representative stamps from 309 defined collecting entities for the album. Sources for the stamps have included APS circuit books, red boxes at two local dealers, and a few items from eBay and Hipstamp. Also, I now have 949 different of the 5,778 different 19th century stamps in the album. I added a significant number of stamps for Iceland in particular this past week and have picked up quite a few stamps for the USA as well. Other than the very first page of the album all stamps in the album continue to be mint and it is starting to look quite nice. Other than this album and one other everything is currently in storage pending a cross country move which is currently projected to occur during November following a road trip down the west coast after completing sale of our home in a couple of weeks. Those two albums I hope to keep with me during the trip, probably my version of a child's security blanket. Happy

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