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I have never bought single items....have bought three v.large collections in the past....so would appreciate some idea...if bought/sold would pre "yellow box" mnh be good buy/sale at say 60% of catalogue?
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There is no surefire guarantee of what % of catalogue will sell here.
It all depends on what you list, when you start your listing, when your listing ends and whether you list at an auction starting price or Buy It Now price.
All I can suggest is list some 10 or 20 items and see how it goes.
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06:07:08am
If you are using a Scott Catalog for anything more than a great identifier or for comparable values between related issues, you will likely be disappointed.
For example, you have a set of ten stamps and the seventh on has a SC value higher than the total of the other nine.
If the other nine are being sold for 50 cents apiece that less common #7 will likely actually cost around $5.00. At least that is reasonable.
However the actual value to one collector is what he, or she, is willing to pay for it combined with what the owner is willing to accept.
Except for Stanley Gibbons, catalogs do not sell stamps. (And SG's sales is another story.)
Understanding all that takes time and experience. If you are puzzled about some specific stamp and its "catalog" listing, feel free to ask on this board or the one that precedes this one.
"The only dumb question is the one you failed to ask."
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in my local club and here, I find early GB (KGV and earlier) to be difficult to move at much more than 10/15%; above that, it tends to get few takers. That's not necessarily true for some of the larger and higher-value stamps (sea horse), but the definitives pretty much go begging. I think buying at 60% with goal of reselling is a bad bet; but selling at 60% would be wonderful and unusual.
I am NOT a collector of nor specialist of GB
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In my humble opinion, the only way most people (in today's market) would pay as much as 60% CV is if the item were really special and something the person really wanted. Some items are very scarce and sometimes you have to pay a bit more. To try to get 60% for a regular item would be very optimistic! Again, just my opinion!
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Also note that Scott values are also based on VF centering. I would not pay a premium for MNH gum on a poorly centered stamp.
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In my opinion GB earlies, save some very expensive items, are catalogued extremely high. The definitive set material, save a few top values, are readily available in collections, sales and trade materials. The stamps must be well centered and not heavily cancelled or they are very common despite the relatively high cataloque values. Any experienced collector with duplicates can probably offer all the Victoria & later definitives in quantity.
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have turned the For awhile a few years ago UK Machins were "The Cat's Meow,"as they said in the roaring twenties. That was before the Great Depression, of course. Lately Machins seem to have become more like what the dead cat left behind.
There has not been a good query in the Great Britain Topic about Machins in some time. Since we are offering opinions here, I think that the introduction of the "secret" marks concealed in the wavy background printing, plus the over pricing for new issues which in a year of two become quite common as they are being used on regular mail have had a deleterious effect on collector's attitudes and enthusiasm.
Plus all the technical jabberwocky about different printings, offset phosphor bands and different minor variants probably hold the average collector back. It takes about 600-700 different color/value issues just to get started and a 1,000 different variants only seems to open the almost bottomless field. Some years ago I predicted that the policies of Royal Mail would kill the goose that deposited a golden egg in the rushes below every working printing press every day.
UK produces many attractive issues that commemorate its long and colorful history and culture, but RM also issues long sets and often silly stamp themes.
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AOP2B was asking about BRITISH COMMONWEALTH George VI MNH Stamps.
Yes GB stamps are as common as muck.
I am sure that there is a demand for Commonwealth stamps but price will determine the amount of sales.
There are many desireable stamps from that era.
I still suggest they try 10 to 20 items in the auctions. If you don't try you will never find out.
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I doubt you will sell many if priced higher than 25-30% CV.
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Thanks to all for your postings.
As Ian reiterated I am only asking regarding British Commonwealth George VI MNH Stamps ( mainly 1936 to 1946 period).
I did a search on the APS Stampstore and whilst I found some George 6th mint material I found very little mnh and most were listed at 50% with some as high as 90%, ( reflecting their scarcity? )....if they sell or not is obviously another question.
I have used the APS stampstore as a selling platform for a number of years now and have been happy with the results but it is a list it and wait for sales site (the initial listing is for 2 years and then for an extra fee you can have 12 months more ).
Here on Stamporama depending on the number of days for the auction I choose I can relatively quickly see how they do.
Best wishes,
Brian.
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I can see that the maximum 14 days at auction here may be felt as detrimental.
There is an alternative available and that is to make up an Approval Book.
The High Value Approval Book allows 20 stamps as long as the selling price of each stamp is $3.00 or above.
The book can remain active for a lot longer than 14 Days.
"Simples"
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"Simples" indeed Ian.....I will try and use the approval books in the near future.
Thank you very much for your informative and helpful posts.
Best wishes,
Brian.
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I have a lot of King George 6th Commonwealth mnh material that is pre the yellow box notice in Scott that informs us that after that date all prices are for never hinged items.
I have never bought single items....have bought three v.large collections in the past....so would appreciate some idea...if bought/sold would pre "yellow box" mnh be good buy/sale at say 60% of catalogue?
Best wishes,
Brian.
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07:32:09pm
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
There is no surefire guarantee of what % of catalogue will sell here.
It all depends on what you list, when you start your listing, when your listing ends and whether you list at an auction starting price or Buy It Now price.
All I can suggest is list some 10 or 20 items and see how it goes.
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14 Jul 2021
06:07:08am
re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
If you are using a Scott Catalog for anything more than a great identifier or for comparable values between related issues, you will likely be disappointed.
For example, you have a set of ten stamps and the seventh on has a SC value higher than the total of the other nine.
If the other nine are being sold for 50 cents apiece that less common #7 will likely actually cost around $5.00. At least that is reasonable.
However the actual value to one collector is what he, or she, is willing to pay for it combined with what the owner is willing to accept.
Except for Stanley Gibbons, catalogs do not sell stamps. (And SG's sales is another story.)
Understanding all that takes time and experience. If you are puzzled about some specific stamp and its "catalog" listing, feel free to ask on this board or the one that precedes this one.
"The only dumb question is the one you failed to ask."
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
in my local club and here, I find early GB (KGV and earlier) to be difficult to move at much more than 10/15%; above that, it tends to get few takers. That's not necessarily true for some of the larger and higher-value stamps (sea horse), but the definitives pretty much go begging. I think buying at 60% with goal of reselling is a bad bet; but selling at 60% would be wonderful and unusual.
I am NOT a collector of nor specialist of GB
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14 Jul 2021
04:06:35pm
re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
In my humble opinion, the only way most people (in today's market) would pay as much as 60% CV is if the item were really special and something the person really wanted. Some items are very scarce and sometimes you have to pay a bit more. To try to get 60% for a regular item would be very optimistic! Again, just my opinion!
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
Also note that Scott values are also based on VF centering. I would not pay a premium for MNH gum on a poorly centered stamp.
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
In my opinion GB earlies, save some very expensive items, are catalogued extremely high. The definitive set material, save a few top values, are readily available in collections, sales and trade materials. The stamps must be well centered and not heavily cancelled or they are very common despite the relatively high cataloque values. Any experienced collector with duplicates can probably offer all the Victoria & later definitives in quantity.
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15 Jul 2021
01:05:12am
re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
have turned the For awhile a few years ago UK Machins were "The Cat's Meow,"as they said in the roaring twenties. That was before the Great Depression, of course. Lately Machins seem to have become more like what the dead cat left behind.
There has not been a good query in the Great Britain Topic about Machins in some time. Since we are offering opinions here, I think that the introduction of the "secret" marks concealed in the wavy background printing, plus the over pricing for new issues which in a year of two become quite common as they are being used on regular mail have had a deleterious effect on collector's attitudes and enthusiasm.
Plus all the technical jabberwocky about different printings, offset phosphor bands and different minor variants probably hold the average collector back. It takes about 600-700 different color/value issues just to get started and a 1,000 different variants only seems to open the almost bottomless field. Some years ago I predicted that the policies of Royal Mail would kill the goose that deposited a golden egg in the rushes below every working printing press every day.
UK produces many attractive issues that commemorate its long and colorful history and culture, but RM also issues long sets and often silly stamp themes.
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04:14:35am
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
AOP2B was asking about BRITISH COMMONWEALTH George VI MNH Stamps.
Yes GB stamps are as common as muck.
I am sure that there is a demand for Commonwealth stamps but price will determine the amount of sales.
There are many desireable stamps from that era.
I still suggest they try 10 to 20 items in the auctions. If you don't try you will never find out.
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
I doubt you will sell many if priced higher than 25-30% CV.
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
Thanks to all for your postings.
As Ian reiterated I am only asking regarding British Commonwealth George VI MNH Stamps ( mainly 1936 to 1946 period).
I did a search on the APS Stampstore and whilst I found some George 6th mint material I found very little mnh and most were listed at 50% with some as high as 90%, ( reflecting their scarcity? )....if they sell or not is obviously another question.
I have used the APS stampstore as a selling platform for a number of years now and have been happy with the results but it is a list it and wait for sales site (the initial listing is for 2 years and then for an extra fee you can have 12 months more ).
Here on Stamporama depending on the number of days for the auction I choose I can relatively quickly see how they do.
Best wishes,
Brian.
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10:11:39am
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
I can see that the maximum 14 days at auction here may be felt as detrimental.
There is an alternative available and that is to make up an Approval Book.
The High Value Approval Book allows 20 stamps as long as the selling price of each stamp is $3.00 or above.
The book can remain active for a lot longer than 14 Days.
"Simples"
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re: Catalogue % for pre yellow box mnh
"Simples" indeed Ian.....I will try and use the approval books in the near future.
Thank you very much for your informative and helpful posts.
Best wishes,
Brian.
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