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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Japan Scott number

 

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12 Jul 2021
10:25:26am

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Can anyone help with the Scott catalog number for these stamps?

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12 Jul 2021
01:56:18pm
re: Japan Scott number

The top stamp (the geisha) is Scott 4138d, I believe. I do know it's from the sheet #4138, with 10 designs, and I *think* the particular position of that stamp is "d", but I could be mistaken. The 2021 cv is $0.80 used.

The bottom stamp I haven't found yet. I have a feeling that it may be a personalized stamp, based on a couple of factors: the frame surrounding the design, which is a generic way of, well, "framing" any design, and also because the actual design is die-cut and can be removed from the stamp itself. (My guess is it's promoting a table tennis event.) But all of that is just a hypothesis. If I figure out any more of it, I'll post it here.

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12 Jul 2021
02:26:09pm
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It looks like I'm correct about the bottom stamp. Per the Sakura catalog, these are called "Frame" stamps (phonetically: 'fu-ree-mu' stamps). This type of stamp is broken out in a separate section in the Sakura.

The image you show would be from the tranche of frames offered beginning April 1, 2014 and available until October 1, 2019, when the first-class rate went from ¥82 to ¥84 and the postcard rate went from ¥62 to ¥63.

I used the term "tranche" because during that time period of the ¥62/¥82 rate, there are 25 different frame styles and sheet configurations.

Although Scott listed generic versions of the earlier photo stamps (the predecessor to frame stamps), I can't find any listing for these newer types, although I may have just missed it.

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12 Jul 2021
04:03:34pm

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re: Japan Scott number

Thank you for all the information.

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12 Jul 2021
05:30:51pm
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Happy to help. I learned a little bit along the way.

I feel pretty familiar with most Japanese issues prior to about 2001, when I gave up trying to chase new issues.

They've issued about a bazillion stamps since then, and I am now recently *slowly* trying to learn my way around them, primarily by trying to pick up some used examples, but I think I could spend the rest of my living hours trying to identify them and I wouldn't get finished.

Glad I was able to track these down (more or less).

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12 Jul 2021
05:44:21pm
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And now I've learned a little more.

On that bottom stamp, the Japanese characters at the bottom are for "Tokyo Marine Nichido", which is a big insurance company.

I should've recognized that "Tokyo 2020" is a code phrase for the Olympics, without using the Olympic rings (and the licensing costs). I see that Tokyo Marine Nichido is a corporate sponsor for the Tokyo Paralympics (and possibly for the Olympics themselves, but I'm not sure about that without doing some more digging).

Here is a press release from the Olympics site about their involvement:

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/paralympics/organising-committee/marketing/sponsors/tokiomarine-nichido-para

There -- now more than you or I wanted to know - lol!

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12 Jul 2021
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Can anyone help with the Scott catalog number for these stamps?

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Doug

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12 Jul 2021
01:56:18pm

re: Japan Scott number

The top stamp (the geisha) is Scott 4138d, I believe. I do know it's from the sheet #4138, with 10 designs, and I *think* the particular position of that stamp is "d", but I could be mistaken. The 2021 cv is $0.80 used.

The bottom stamp I haven't found yet. I have a feeling that it may be a personalized stamp, based on a couple of factors: the frame surrounding the design, which is a generic way of, well, "framing" any design, and also because the actual design is die-cut and can be removed from the stamp itself. (My guess is it's promoting a table tennis event.) But all of that is just a hypothesis. If I figure out any more of it, I'll post it here.

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APS #187980
12 Jul 2021
02:26:09pm

re: Japan Scott number

It looks like I'm correct about the bottom stamp. Per the Sakura catalog, these are called "Frame" stamps (phonetically: 'fu-ree-mu' stamps). This type of stamp is broken out in a separate section in the Sakura.

The image you show would be from the tranche of frames offered beginning April 1, 2014 and available until October 1, 2019, when the first-class rate went from ¥82 to ¥84 and the postcard rate went from ¥62 to ¥63.

I used the term "tranche" because during that time period of the ¥62/¥82 rate, there are 25 different frame styles and sheet configurations.

Although Scott listed generic versions of the earlier photo stamps (the predecessor to frame stamps), I can't find any listing for these newer types, although I may have just missed it.

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12 Jul 2021
04:03:34pm

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re: Japan Scott number

Thank you for all the information.

Doug

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12 Jul 2021
05:30:51pm

re: Japan Scott number

Happy to help. I learned a little bit along the way.

I feel pretty familiar with most Japanese issues prior to about 2001, when I gave up trying to chase new issues.

They've issued about a bazillion stamps since then, and I am now recently *slowly* trying to learn my way around them, primarily by trying to pick up some used examples, but I think I could spend the rest of my living hours trying to identify them and I wouldn't get finished.

Glad I was able to track these down (more or less).

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APS #187980
12 Jul 2021
05:44:21pm

re: Japan Scott number

And now I've learned a little more.

On that bottom stamp, the Japanese characters at the bottom are for "Tokyo Marine Nichido", which is a big insurance company.

I should've recognized that "Tokyo 2020" is a code phrase for the Olympics, without using the Olympic rings (and the licensing costs). I see that Tokyo Marine Nichido is a corporate sponsor for the Tokyo Paralympics (and possibly for the Olympics themselves, but I'm not sure about that without doing some more digging).

Here is a press release from the Olympics site about their involvement:

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/paralympics/organising-committee/marketing/sponsors/tokiomarine-nichido-para

There -- now more than you or I wanted to know - lol!

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