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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

 

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vbernsd

06 Jul 2021
12:30:35am
Image Not FoundHi,

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These are the some of the envelopes Im trying to figure out if I should keep the stamps on.

Vic

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06 Jul 2021
02:34:19am
re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

Don’t remove the stamps! Not yet anyway. We’ll need to see detailed images to make recommendations.

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06 Jul 2021
08:13:53am

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re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I'm with Bob.

The stamp often has MORE value on cover. More importantly, an entire envelope tells a story the stamp never will on its own.

it's possible the person who sent you the covers has some history about them to share; that's a good starting point.

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Jack

06 Jul 2021
09:36:38am
re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I don't see any images posted. You probably need to try that again.

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jmh67

07 Jul 2021
04:39:59am
re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

David says it - the complete pieces are much more interesting than the stamps alone. BTW, pictures are fine here.

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Jack

07 Jul 2021
07:41:01am
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I would not remove the stamps from these covers.

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07 Jul 2021
08:38:15am
re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

The stamps, if removed from the covers, are effectively worthless as they are all very common.

If these came to me in a lot, the top one and bottom one would be included in my Buckacover.com inventory and would likely sell for $1.00 to $1.50. The top one because of the bold strike of a (common) Boston machine cancel and the bottom one because of the special delivery usage.

The middle cover would go back into the "junk" boxes because of the damage and no significant redeeming collectible qualities.

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07 Jul 2021
08:48:54am

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re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I agree with keeping the stamps on the envelopes.

In the first two cases, the stamps are part of the envelop (called a 'stamped envelop'). The only way to separate the embossed stamps from the envelop is cut them off -- creating what is call a 'cut square' which:

1. is generally worth much less than an intact entire stamped envelop

2. destroys the provenance of the envelop and stamp.

3. leaves you with a cancelled stamp with no uniqueness

Even better would be an envelop with the original contents

Stamped envelopes with cancellations from the appropriate time period are often worth more than the mint/unused envelops. Keeping the stamped envelop intact supports the actually usage and is evidence that someone just didn't cancel the stamp to increase its value.

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vbernsd

07 Jul 2021
09:41:24am
re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

Thank you for your responses. They saved me from making a costly mistake.

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07 Jul 2021
09:58:30am

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re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I didn't see the images initially; now I do.

Roy's explanation is a good one. I'll add that the Air Mail Special Delivery is a nice cover. That's one of the areas I collect. Happily take that cover off your hands.

David

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Tom in Exton, PA

07 Jul 2021
01:12:33pm
re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I agree. Never destroy a complete cover!

The airmail special delivery one is very nice. Check the back for a receiving cancel, that will tell you how long it was in transit. There are folks who research early airmail routes.

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vbernsd

06 Jul 2021
12:30:35am

Image Not FoundHi,

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These are the some of the envelopes Im trying to figure out if I should keep the stamps on.

Vic

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Bobstamp

06 Jul 2021
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re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

Don’t remove the stamps! Not yet anyway. We’ll need to see detailed images to make recommendations.

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06 Jul 2021
08:13:53am

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re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I'm with Bob.

The stamp often has MORE value on cover. More importantly, an entire envelope tells a story the stamp never will on its own.

it's possible the person who sent you the covers has some history about them to share; that's a good starting point.

David

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Jack
06 Jul 2021
09:36:38am

re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I don't see any images posted. You probably need to try that again.

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jmh67

07 Jul 2021
04:39:59am

re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

David says it - the complete pieces are much more interesting than the stamps alone. BTW, pictures are fine here.

-jmh

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Jack
07 Jul 2021
07:41:01am

re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I would not remove the stamps from these covers.

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07 Jul 2021
08:38:15am

re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

The stamps, if removed from the covers, are effectively worthless as they are all very common.

If these came to me in a lot, the top one and bottom one would be included in my Buckacover.com inventory and would likely sell for $1.00 to $1.50. The top one because of the bold strike of a (common) Boston machine cancel and the bottom one because of the special delivery usage.

The middle cover would go back into the "junk" boxes because of the damage and no significant redeeming collectible qualities.

Roy

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oldguy

07 Jul 2021
08:48:54am

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re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I agree with keeping the stamps on the envelopes.

In the first two cases, the stamps are part of the envelop (called a 'stamped envelop'). The only way to separate the embossed stamps from the envelop is cut them off -- creating what is call a 'cut square' which:

1. is generally worth much less than an intact entire stamped envelop

2. destroys the provenance of the envelop and stamp.

3. leaves you with a cancelled stamp with no uniqueness

Even better would be an envelop with the original contents

Stamped envelopes with cancellations from the appropriate time period are often worth more than the mint/unused envelops. Keeping the stamped envelop intact supports the actually usage and is evidence that someone just didn't cancel the stamp to increase its value.

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vbernsd

07 Jul 2021
09:41:24am

re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

Thank you for your responses. They saved me from making a costly mistake.

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amsd

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07 Jul 2021
09:58:30am

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re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I didn't see the images initially; now I do.

Roy's explanation is a good one. I'll add that the Air Mail Special Delivery is a nice cover. That's one of the areas I collect. Happily take that cover off your hands.

David

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Tom in Exton, PA
07 Jul 2021
01:12:33pm

re: Letter w/Stamp or Remove Stamp - Uploaded Image

I agree. Never destroy a complete cover!

The airmail special delivery one is very nice. Check the back for a receiving cancel, that will tell you how long it was in transit. There are folks who research early airmail routes.

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