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26 Jun 2021
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I am aware of one Active SOR member and one Inactive SOR member who are in EXTREMELY poor health. I MAY be the only SOR member aware of this. What are your thoughts about making the SOR membership aware of this? Best just not to say anything?? Thank you.
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26 Jun 2021
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All I can say is that I think it should be up to the person involved to let people know what his/her condition is. Some people are very sensitive about that sort of thing. Just my own personal opinion and it really may not be worth much. If I were ill I would prefer to tell, or not tell, people myself.

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26 Jun 2021
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I think I would not be that pleased if I had to find out the news was out and people would be like I heard you're not doing well...

It is a very private and sensitive subject.

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26 Jun 2021
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I suppose we have to hope that a close friend or relative of a member that passes lets the Stamporama admin people know. Its the decent thing to do.

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26 Jun 2021
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@1938324 (Bob),

A suggestion: Could you ask the members in question if they would mind having Stamporama's members know about their situation? Like the others who responded to your question, I wouldn't my own health problems advertised without my knowledge, but I certainly wouldn't mind contact with other collectors. My own health is far from great (nothing terminal, not yet!) but one of the things that keeps me going is contact with other collectors either here on the discussion board or via email.

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27 Jun 2021
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Thanks for all your thoughts and comments. I agree, it's a very private matter that should be left up to the individual having the difficulty. My thinking was if an SOR member passes, there are those who are going to be quick to say "But I had no idea he/she had a problem." Thank you.

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27 Jun 2021
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Am I missing something? I thought my suggestion made good sense. Confused

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27 Jun 2021
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Bob Your suggestion makes total sense. I would just like to think about this for a while. The INACTIVE SOR member may have already passed. The ACTIVE SOR member sent out a message to 25 people and received some blow back that I don't fully understand. Maybe best to just leave it alone.

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17 Jul 2021
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" ... a message to 25 people and received some blow back that I don't fully understand. ...."

Very strange.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

06 Oct 2021
06:16:19am
re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

" ... I certainly wouldn't mind contact with other collectors.
.........
... but one of the things that keeps me going is contact with
other collectors either here on the discussion board or via email. ..."


I agree and having spent a fair amount of time now and then
hospitalized, a cheery note from a friend would be welcome
to me.
While many people are very sensitive as noted, possibly overly
so, since we all have those days at the end of an IV tube, a
note need not go into specifics beyond that "John Doe" is ill
and might appreciate some good wishes.
And such a note would alert traders, buyers and sellers, that
completing a deal could be delayed for cause.
I distinctly recall such a situation some years back and I had
my daughter use my PC to post just such a note. At least no one
was worrying where a couple of payments we.

PS: Okay, not "We all have those days," is too broad, but
eventually just about all
WILL have the experience,
if we are fortunate, and for a few, prsonal feelings simply
won't matter



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06 Oct 2021
08:35:11am
re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

A tough topic to navigate for sure. So far the responses here have touched upon the privacy needs of the individual, the trading/selling implications, and the gossipy aspect all to be kept in mind. In a way, it boils down to whether or not the person would be comforted more by having a friend(s) to share the ordeal with, or to tough it out by one's self.

Perhaps the following approach might be of some value, or not. If I know the person, and am aware of a difficulty, the decision to share info widely resides with the person involved-their call and I respect that direction. I do make the assumption that there might be a need for SOR to be aware in case of transactions, so I make the decision to inform the MT privately about the situation. Often they have more info than I might, and can proceed as they see fit.

As a friend/associate a personal reachout privately to the person via the message board rather than the discussion board is a better first option than a public reachout. Then the preferences of the party involved can be honored. Sometimes a phonecall is a preferred option, again all to be the decision of the party involved.

Perhaps a better way to say what I am trying to say is to keep the focus on what is best for the person involved, rather than your own heartbreak, and be guide by their needs, not one's own.

Dan C.

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I am aware of one Active SOR member and one Inactive SOR member who are in EXTREMELY poor health. I MAY be the only SOR member aware of this. What are your thoughts about making the SOR membership aware of this? Best just not to say anything?? Thank you.

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26 Jun 2021
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re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

All I can say is that I think it should be up to the person involved to let people know what his/her condition is. Some people are very sensitive about that sort of thing. Just my own personal opinion and it really may not be worth much. If I were ill I would prefer to tell, or not tell, people myself.

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26 Jun 2021
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re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

I think I would not be that pleased if I had to find out the news was out and people would be like I heard you're not doing well...

It is a very private and sensitive subject.

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26 Jun 2021
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re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

I suppose we have to hope that a close friend or relative of a member that passes lets the Stamporama admin people know. Its the decent thing to do.

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26 Jun 2021
09:56:52pm

re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

@1938324 (Bob),

A suggestion: Could you ask the members in question if they would mind having Stamporama's members know about their situation? Like the others who responded to your question, I wouldn't my own health problems advertised without my knowledge, but I certainly wouldn't mind contact with other collectors. My own health is far from great (nothing terminal, not yet!) but one of the things that keeps me going is contact with other collectors either here on the discussion board or via email.

Bob

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27 Jun 2021
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re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

Thanks for all your thoughts and comments. I agree, it's a very private matter that should be left up to the individual having the difficulty. My thinking was if an SOR member passes, there are those who are going to be quick to say "But I had no idea he/she had a problem." Thank you.

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27 Jun 2021
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re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

Am I missing something? I thought my suggestion made good sense. Confused

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27 Jun 2021
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re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

Bob Your suggestion makes total sense. I would just like to think about this for a while. The INACTIVE SOR member may have already passed. The ACTIVE SOR member sent out a message to 25 people and received some blow back that I don't fully understand. Maybe best to just leave it alone.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
17 Jul 2021
01:50:36am

re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

" ... a message to 25 people and received some blow back that I don't fully understand. ...."

Very strange.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
06 Oct 2021
06:16:19am

re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

" ... I certainly wouldn't mind contact with other collectors.
.........
... but one of the things that keeps me going is contact with
other collectors either here on the discussion board or via email. ..."


I agree and having spent a fair amount of time now and then
hospitalized, a cheery note from a friend would be welcome
to me.
While many people are very sensitive as noted, possibly overly
so, since we all have those days at the end of an IV tube, a
note need not go into specifics beyond that "John Doe" is ill
and might appreciate some good wishes.
And such a note would alert traders, buyers and sellers, that
completing a deal could be delayed for cause.
I distinctly recall such a situation some years back and I had
my daughter use my PC to post just such a note. At least no one
was worrying where a couple of payments we.

PS: Okay, not "We all have those days," is too broad, but
eventually just about all
WILL have the experience,
if we are fortunate, and for a few, prsonal feelings simply
won't matter



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06 Oct 2021
08:35:11am

re: SOR members in EXTREMELY poor health.

A tough topic to navigate for sure. So far the responses here have touched upon the privacy needs of the individual, the trading/selling implications, and the gossipy aspect all to be kept in mind. In a way, it boils down to whether or not the person would be comforted more by having a friend(s) to share the ordeal with, or to tough it out by one's self.

Perhaps the following approach might be of some value, or not. If I know the person, and am aware of a difficulty, the decision to share info widely resides with the person involved-their call and I respect that direction. I do make the assumption that there might be a need for SOR to be aware in case of transactions, so I make the decision to inform the MT privately about the situation. Often they have more info than I might, and can proceed as they see fit.

As a friend/associate a personal reachout privately to the person via the message board rather than the discussion board is a better first option than a public reachout. Then the preferences of the party involved can be honored. Sometimes a phonecall is a preferred option, again all to be the decision of the party involved.

Perhaps a better way to say what I am trying to say is to keep the focus on what is best for the person involved, rather than your own heartbreak, and be guide by their needs, not one's own.

Dan C.

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