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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Transjordan surcharged Palestine

 

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foudutimbre
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15 Jun 2021
02:49:47pm

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Could someone tell me more on this surcharge, I doubt it is forgerie

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15 Jun 2021
05:15:51pm
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1948 Jordanian Occupation of Palestine, 3m Carmine-Pink, Overprint double. SG#P4a

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16 Jun 2021
05:04:01am

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Thank you very much for this valuable info.

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16 Jun 2021
10:28:26am
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Oh yes, it's not a surcharge. It's an overprint on a Transjordan stamp for use elsewhere. An interesting series as are all Middle East items from this era.
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16 Jun 2021
01:04:38pm

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The series from Transjordan. In spite of some low cat values, don't be fooled. Many are very hard to find.
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17 Jun 2021
07:03:35am

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Thank you Rrraphy for this presentation, as per the stamps shown the surchage is horizontal linear, however the one I am posting is curved, can this curved double surcharge forgerie or contrefeit?.


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17 Jun 2021
03:24:48pm

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I don't know Abd.., but I don't like the Arabic script and I would be quite suspicious.
On the other hand this is not an expensive stamp even as a double o/p. There are a lot of double o/p and inverted o/p which certainly do not warrant the 10x or more price premium requested in various auctions. I would not myself pay more than 5x the regular value, but it is a personal choice. Scott gives no guidance on pricing double and inverted o/p
Given the abundance of similar stamps, I would conservatively treat it as a counterfeit, if I was looking to buy it. rrr....

PS: currently Hipstamp has 2 double o/p on sale. I like the first one if I had to chose. (and the second one could well be counterfeit)

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18 Jun 2021
09:02:19am

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Thanks a lot my friend it is so much valuable infos


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foudutimbre

15 Jun 2021
02:49:47pm

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Could someone tell me more on this surcharge, I doubt it is forgerie

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Many thanks for your inputs

Foudutimbre

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15 Jun 2021
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1948 Jordanian Occupation of Palestine, 3m Carmine-Pink, Overprint double. SG#P4a

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16 Jun 2021
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Thank you very much for this valuable info.

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londonbus1

16 Jun 2021
10:28:26am

re: Transjordan surcharged Palestine

Oh yes, it's not a surcharge. It's an overprint on a Transjordan stamp for use elsewhere. An interesting series as are all Middle East items from this era.
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rrraphy

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16 Jun 2021
01:04:38pm

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re: Transjordan surcharged Palestine

The series from Transjordan. In spite of some low cat values, don't be fooled. Many are very hard to find.
rrr...

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foudutimbre

17 Jun 2021
07:03:35am

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re: Transjordan surcharged Palestine

Thank you Rrraphy for this presentation, as per the stamps shown the surchage is horizontal linear, however the one I am posting is curved, can this curved double surcharge forgerie or contrefeit?.


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rrraphy

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17 Jun 2021
03:24:48pm

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re: Transjordan surcharged Palestine

I don't know Abd.., but I don't like the Arabic script and I would be quite suspicious.
On the other hand this is not an expensive stamp even as a double o/p. There are a lot of double o/p and inverted o/p which certainly do not warrant the 10x or more price premium requested in various auctions. I would not myself pay more than 5x the regular value, but it is a personal choice. Scott gives no guidance on pricing double and inverted o/p
Given the abundance of similar stamps, I would conservatively treat it as a counterfeit, if I was looking to buy it. rrr....

PS: currently Hipstamp has 2 double o/p on sale. I like the first one if I had to chose. (and the second one could well be counterfeit)

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18 Jun 2021
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re: Transjordan surcharged Palestine

Thanks a lot my friend it is so much valuable infos


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