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foudutimbre
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29 Apr 2021
10:44:16am

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Can you help me to identify these two stamps

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Many thanks in advance

Foudutimbre
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nigelc
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29 Apr 2021
11:15:04am
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Hi,

These are from a propaganda issue from a revolutionary group in Crete in 1905:

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=7017#44218

Catalogues usually refer to them under the name Revolutionary Assembly.

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Harvey
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29 Apr 2021
11:47:29am
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I have the green one and for years had no idea what it was and put it with my Russia BOB with my Russia Offices in Crete. I eventually identified it but left it where it was so I knew where it was. There's all kinds of weird stuff out there, that's part of the fun!!

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gerom
29 Apr 2021
12:29:49pm
re: unknown country

I think they're genuines.
The stamps were forged.
You can check on the "stampforgeries".

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nigelc
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29 Apr 2021
02:20:35pm
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I collect Crete especially the foreign post offices so thanks Harvey for bringing up the Russian offices! Happy

Here's a block of Crete SG R1 / Sc #13:

I've always thought of these as rather strange looking stamps but I'm quite fond of them. Happy

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nigelc
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30 Apr 2021
10:30:38am
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When the western powers occupied Crete and enabled the creation of the autonomous Cretan state, Italy, Britain, Russia and France each initially took responsibility for the administration of a province of Crete.

The province administered by Russia was based in Rethymno (also called Rethymnon etc.) on the north coast and this is why we have RETYMNO at the top of these stamps.

And, yes, the genuine stamps are always as badly printed as this! Happy

The main symbol is the double-headed eagle of Imperial Russia.

Below the eagle it says in French, "TIMBRE POSTE PROVISOIRE" (provisional postage stamp).

The face value is 1 metalik (10 paras).

The round purple mark is a control stamp that was applied to the stamps as here with a quarter of this on each stamp.

The straight line (Greek) RETHYMNON handstamp is the Rethymno postmark, here applied CTO on each stamp.

These stamps were printed individually with a handstamp so the placement is uneven.

The vertical and horizontal lines are pencil guidelines made before the stamps were printed.

The Russian administration was a serious matter but the postage stamps appear to have been an afterthought following the successful introduction of similar stamps in the British area.

This Russian postal service only lasted from May to July 1899.

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foudutimbre
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04 May 2021
05:07:09pm

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re: unknown country

Many thanks for those valuable information

Foudutimbre

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