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Postmaster
08 Apr 2021
11:05:43am
Can you direct me to a comprehensive color chart of colors and shadings as used in Scott catalog descriptions? I find colors to be very confusing for s novice ae: pink, rose pink, pigeon blood pink, etc. Thanks for your help. Mike
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08 Apr 2021
12:44:25pm
re: Color Chart

Hi there,

You may already be well aware of this, but the Swedish Tiger website (https://www.theswedishtiger.com/) is a free resource and does have images of some color variants.

At this time Scott does not provide a color chart.

The best printed resource I am aware of (though I welcome correction) for US stamp colors is Encyclopedia of the colors of United States postage stamps by Roy White, though they are notoriously hard to find. Many philatelic libraries carry them, including the American Philatelic Research Library aka the APRL (https://stamps.org/services/library).

I really wish Scott/Amos Advantage would take some good lessons from the publishers of the Michel catalogs.

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08 Apr 2021
01:33:50pm
re: Color Chart

I don't have it, but Scott did actually produce a color chart for US stamps a while back. At first I was going to say it was about 5 years ago, but a quick online search suggests it was more like 15 years ago! (Of course, I keep thinking 1970 was about 30 years ago, rather than about 50 -- I am getting way too old!)

Anyway, perhaps keep an eye out for it on eBay, etc.

Here's a listing for it from Abebooks (although they don't have one in stock at the moment, it appears):

https://www.abebooks.com/9780894873737/Scott-Specialized-Color-Guides-U.S-0894873733/plp

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Postmaster
08 Apr 2021
04:56:27pm
re: Color Chart

Thank you for your replies. I will keep my eye open for one of the charts. The SwedishTiger
web page is a good source if all types of good info that is well presented. Thank you for letting me know about it. Mike

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08 Apr 2021
05:54:11pm
re: Color Chart

Do be careful about relying on digital resources for subtle color differences. There are threads on here and other sites about the problems with calibration of scanners, monitors, etc.

In fact, with colors, a lot of people (and I'm among them) think that you should use the print color guide that's produced by the same catalog publisher, because there is no consistency in naming conventions across publishers. Stanley Gibbons publishes one, as does Michel. The Scott one is harder to find and, for some reason, not maintained and updated, and, it really only applies to classic-era US stamps. (In fact, some sources I trust say that Scott is not even consistent in their naming over time.)

Scott produces some specialty guides on condition and pricing on early US. (In fact, I think there's a new one they're introducing this year.) Perhaps they include some discussion with that? I don't collect US, so I haven't explored these specialized resources very much.

So proceed cautiously.

Others here I'm sure can weigh in with their perspectives.

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08 Apr 2021
06:19:55pm
re: Color Chart

Colour shade has got to be the biggest problem in stamp collecting - especially early U.S. Also don't go by on line guides, they are usually different from the real colour and even differ according to your monitor. Stamps also fade or oxidize. GOOD LUCK! And yes, different colour guides are different as well. You must use a colour guide that goes with your catalog. There are some great guides out there, but even the guide fades or changes over time!

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10 Apr 2021
10:07:53pm
re: Color Chart

"... Can you direct me to a comprehensive color chart of colors
and shadings as used in Scott catalog descriptions? ..."



This may not be "SCOTT" colors, but it illustrates the size
of the problem with the colors of these stamps in a large,
long lived series..

click here

And those are only for decimal Machins. When I get the rest of
my stamp things from Texas. I'll look at the Scott Machin Pages
to se how these colors are handled.

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11 Apr 2021
04:57:00am
re: Color Chart

Doesn't Scott produce little Booklets for various stamps to show the different shades like they do in Germany and I assume others:
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11 Apr 2021
08:26:03am
re: Color Chart

Nice booklet charlie2009

But I have a question for you :
If the link in your post is not valid anymore would you than remove it please.

I am referring to : https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/collectables/shop/1Stampman

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Charlie2009
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11 Apr 2021
08:36:55am
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I have noticed this before. Everybody's link seems to work except mine. But if you copy this into your browser it will get you to the shop:https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/collectables/shop/1Stampman

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11 Apr 2021
09:32:32am
re: Color Chart

Charlie to fix the problem copy the link in your last post, go to edit members details and paste in the copied link rather than the existing one.

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Charlie2009
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11 Apr 2021
09:43:56am
re: Color Chart

Just did, still doesn't work.

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BrightonPete
11 Apr 2021
10:02:39am
re: Color Chart

There's a missing colon at the beginning...

It should be https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/collectables/shop/1Stampman

Does it work now?



Edit: it does now, but I thought it would lead to a colour chart!

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11 Apr 2021
10:08:14am
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Ok the websearch from your members link is
http://https//www.delcampe.net/en_GB/collectables/shop/1Stampman
from your post it is
https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/collectables/shop/1Stampman
Whether this is Stamporama inserting the extra http or not I'm not sure, Maybe Tim can tell us, perhaps try deleting the https from your members link. Leaving just the www.delcampe.net/en_GB/collectables/shop/1Stampman

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sheepshanks
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11 Apr 2021
10:15:12am
re: Color Chart

Not sure if I recall correctly but seem to remember that even SG did not always use the Post office descriptions of colour.

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Charlie2009
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11 Apr 2021
10:20:54am
re: Color Chart


Now it works, thank you!

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13 Apr 2021
01:13:14pm
re: Color Chart

" ... Not sure if I recall correctly but seem to remember
that even SG did not always use the Post office
descriptions of colour. ..."


Oh yes, definarilly.

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20 Apr 2021
07:47:37am
re: Color Chart

Stanley Gibbons have a useful colour chart with a perforated hole in each colour, which when placed over the stamp the best colour match can be obtained.Image Not Found

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20 Apr 2021
09:40:26pm
re: Color Chart

I use this one for US issues in general;


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For more intense I.D. work, I use this - which is very specialized for US Scott #'s 10, 11, 64, 65, 219D, 220, 267 and 279B;


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Upon reading the back cover-above- you will find that actual color chips are to be found inside to help with positive I.D.'s.

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