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Oceania/Australia : PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

 

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Horamakhet
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21 Mar 2021
12:59:33am
Hi to all

This stamp is nothing remarkable, but unfortunately the scan does not show what I would love everyone to see and comment on.

When held to the light and tilted the stamp is shiny and glossy, and it looks exactly like it has been printed on the Gummed side.

Now I know that such a stamp does not exist according to the ACSC. How would I get a good scan showing the glossy surface of the printed side?

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Horamakhet

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Jack

21 Mar 2021
09:38:01am
re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Tilt at an angle and use a cell phone. I know this works with an iphone, it should work with any good cell phone camera.

Is this printed on both sides???

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pigdoc

21 Mar 2021
10:25:14am
re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Um, if it had been printed on the gummed side, and then soaked off the cover that it was applied to for use, wouldn't most of gum and/or printing be gone?

And, I would expect to see some kind of staining on the 'back' side - residue of the glue or mucilage applied by the user to stick it to the cover. Unless it was gummed on both sides. Perhaps we are seeing evidence of that staining in various places in the perfs?

Maybe I'm missing something in this logic.
-Paul

PS, remembering my days of making black & white glossy prints, the "glossy" is a result of drying the print face down on a sheet of smooth stainless steel. Perhaps whoever soaked this stamp off the cover dried it in a similar way. That might also explain what looks like ink loss in the upper left hand quadrant of the stamp.

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21 Mar 2021
11:33:51am
re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

I have a Canada stamp (460fi) printed on gum side. There is no used price and the mint price for a single is only $30, so obviously many were done this way. There is no gum on the reverse side, obviously, so how could you attach it to an envelope to use it? I can't understand how you could have a used copy of a stamp like this and if it were somehow attached to an envelope how could you soak it off without soaking off the image on the stamp? In my opinion a stamp like this could not be used. Think about it - unless both sides were gummed somehow!

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Horamakhet
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21 Mar 2021
06:37:14pm
re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Hi to all

Banknoteguy, unfortunately it is not printed on both sides.

pigdoc, that could be one explanation. I will check the ACSC to see if the variation in colour is listed as a Flaw.

I will do more research, and if need be send it to some-one who can give me a difinitive answer. All comments are greatly appreciated.
Regards

Horamakhet

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22 Mar 2021
02:35:58pm
re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Best solution and probably only workable solution for a scan that would show the glossiness would be to use a cell phone picture with appropriate lighting so that the reflection from the surface is visible to the camera. You may need to disable the cell phone flash so that an external light source provides most of the light as otherwise the flash will likely overpower the external light source.

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Horamakhet

21 Mar 2021
12:59:33am

Hi to all

This stamp is nothing remarkable, but unfortunately the scan does not show what I would love everyone to see and comment on.

When held to the light and tilted the stamp is shiny and glossy, and it looks exactly like it has been printed on the Gummed side.

Now I know that such a stamp does not exist according to the ACSC. How would I get a good scan showing the glossy surface of the printed side?

Regards

Horamakhet

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Jack
21 Mar 2021
09:38:01am

re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Tilt at an angle and use a cell phone. I know this works with an iphone, it should work with any good cell phone camera.

Is this printed on both sides???

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pigdoc

21 Mar 2021
10:25:14am

re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Um, if it had been printed on the gummed side, and then soaked off the cover that it was applied to for use, wouldn't most of gum and/or printing be gone?

And, I would expect to see some kind of staining on the 'back' side - residue of the glue or mucilage applied by the user to stick it to the cover. Unless it was gummed on both sides. Perhaps we are seeing evidence of that staining in various places in the perfs?

Maybe I'm missing something in this logic.
-Paul

PS, remembering my days of making black & white glossy prints, the "glossy" is a result of drying the print face down on a sheet of smooth stainless steel. Perhaps whoever soaked this stamp off the cover dried it in a similar way. That might also explain what looks like ink loss in the upper left hand quadrant of the stamp.

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21 Mar 2021
11:33:51am

re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

I have a Canada stamp (460fi) printed on gum side. There is no used price and the mint price for a single is only $30, so obviously many were done this way. There is no gum on the reverse side, obviously, so how could you attach it to an envelope to use it? I can't understand how you could have a used copy of a stamp like this and if it were somehow attached to an envelope how could you soak it off without soaking off the image on the stamp? In my opinion a stamp like this could not be used. Think about it - unless both sides were gummed somehow!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
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Horamakhet

21 Mar 2021
06:37:14pm

re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Hi to all

Banknoteguy, unfortunately it is not printed on both sides.

pigdoc, that could be one explanation. I will check the ACSC to see if the variation in colour is listed as a Flaw.

I will do more research, and if need be send it to some-one who can give me a difinitive answer. All comments are greatly appreciated.
Regards

Horamakhet

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jbaxter5256

22 Mar 2021
02:35:58pm

re: PENNY HALFPENNY BROWN BLACK OR CHOCOLATE

Best solution and probably only workable solution for a scan that would show the glossiness would be to use a cell phone picture with appropriate lighting so that the reflection from the surface is visible to the camera. You may need to disable the cell phone flash so that an external light source provides most of the light as otherwise the flash will likely overpower the external light source.

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