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The other month I came across a blurb from a stamp "club" that specialized in the swirly patterns put on old stamps to cut down on forgery. An example of this can be found on Scott US 63, 65 etc. I cannot recall the name of this group or how to contact them. There was a fancy word for the patterns of which I write. If anyone can help me out I would be most appreciative.
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US 63 and 65 had no patterns, swirly or otherwise, of which I am aware.
However, the design of 65, (A25 I believe) carried grills, starting in 1867, which were basically small points, as one might see on a cheese or ginger grater, embedded in them. Scott 88 and 94 are two such examples.
I don't know of a specialized grill society, although my dad was handy on them and some autos, such as the BMW, have distinctive ones.
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07:30:49pm
"US 63 and 65 had no patterns, swirly or otherwise, of which I am aware."
I beg to disagree.
Stamps of this period were covered in lathework and filigree in the corners.
However, I have not been able to find a stamp group using either of these two key words.
Roy
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Yes, exactly the filigree. The name of the club was different but I cannot recall:-(
But it was definitely centered around this topic.
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Are these 'swirly patterns' you refer to, cancels??
Or something else?
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Yitz, maybe a browse of this list will give you a moment of recall.
https://www.collectorsclubchicago.org/general-and-specialty-philatelic-societies-and-philatelic-libraries/
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I think that sort of pattern is called: guilloche
Jan
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From Merriam-Webster:
"lathework
: machine engraving
specifically : the part of the design of a stamp or currency note that is engraved by machine"
I was just checking a stamp from St. Lucia against the stampforgeries website. Here's what I found:
St.Lucia_QV_1p_red_Genuine
St.Lucia_QV_4p_Surcharge_Oneglia_Forgery
Not sure if that qualifies as lathework, but it didn't stop the forgers.
-Paul
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Yes, but the more proper term (I see now :-), thanks ) of guilloche I believe was intended to stop forgery. This can also be seem on paper currency.
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04:25:02pm
Greetings,
The other month I came across a blurb from a stamp "club" that specialized in the swirly patterns put on old stamps to cut down on forgery. An example of this can be found on Scott US 63, 65 etc. I cannot recall the name of this group or how to contact them. There was a fancy word for the patterns of which I write. If anyone can help me out I would be most appreciative.
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re: name of stamp group/club/society
US 63 and 65 had no patterns, swirly or otherwise, of which I am aware.
However, the design of 65, (A25 I believe) carried grills, starting in 1867, which were basically small points, as one might see on a cheese or ginger grater, embedded in them. Scott 88 and 94 are two such examples.
I don't know of a specialized grill society, although my dad was handy on them and some autos, such as the BMW, have distinctive ones.
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07:30:49pm
re: name of stamp group/club/society
"US 63 and 65 had no patterns, swirly or otherwise, of which I am aware."
I beg to disagree.
Stamps of this period were covered in lathework and filigree in the corners.
However, I have not been able to find a stamp group using either of these two key words.
Roy
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07:38:47pm
re: name of stamp group/club/society
Yes, exactly the filigree. The name of the club was different but I cannot recall:-(
But it was definitely centered around this topic.
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re: name of stamp group/club/society
Are these 'swirly patterns' you refer to, cancels??
Or something else?
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re: name of stamp group/club/society
Yitz, maybe a browse of this list will give you a moment of recall.
https://www.collectorsclubchicago.org/general-and-specialty-philatelic-societies-and-philatelic-libraries/
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02:28:10am
re: name of stamp group/club/society
I think that sort of pattern is called: guilloche
Jan
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03:35:22pm
re: name of stamp group/club/society
From Merriam-Webster:
"lathework
: machine engraving
specifically : the part of the design of a stamp or currency note that is engraved by machine"
I was just checking a stamp from St. Lucia against the stampforgeries website. Here's what I found:
St.Lucia_QV_1p_red_Genuine
St.Lucia_QV_4p_Surcharge_Oneglia_Forgery
Not sure if that qualifies as lathework, but it didn't stop the forgers.
-Paul
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05:03:00pm
re: name of stamp group/club/society
Yes, but the more proper term (I see now :-), thanks ) of guilloche I believe was intended to stop forgery. This can also be seem on paper currency.
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