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10 Feb 2021
07:18:56pm
Going through a bag full of these and notice some have phosphor bands, some visible without UV some with. (one and two bands)
Have looked in Scott but no mention of phosphor lines, web search turned up a couple of sites but again no mention. Although one site did state no phosphor.
Does anyone know if there is a list that will confirm which have bands? I have yet to soak most of these and would like to presort to an extent.

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jmh67

11 Feb 2021
04:48:21am
re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

As far as I remember, the lowest values of this series have no phosphor stripes at all, the medium ones up to the green "second class letter" values have one, all others have two. Pretty straightforward, but of course the boundary moved with the increase in postage prices. Hence you may e.g. find an old red (priority letter) 1.80 F stamp with two stripes and a newer green one with one. Any deviations from the rule would be less common varieties. Check colnect.com or the Yvert catalog for details.

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11 Feb 2021
08:55:37am
re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

Thanks Martin for the information, I guess I'll get a feel for them when I have enough soaked and dried.
I did notice that out of the whole bagful there was not a single coil stamp, so presume that the kiloware this lot came from did not have any business users contributing.
Will be looking for the coil stamps in used condition if anybody has them.

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jmh67

12 Feb 2021
01:33:42am
re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

I'm not sure, but I think I have seen vending machines for coil stamps when I worked in France for a few months (it was during the Marianne du Bicenténaire epoch, however). Still, I guess, people being who they are, most preferred to buy their stamps at the counter. Anyway, there is also a lot of information to be found on https://www.wikitimbres.fr - in French, of course. And if you really want to dive in deep, check out http://www.timbres-barres-phosphorescentes.fr/V2_Partie2/V2_2454_Marianne_et_Types_de_barres_Liberte.html or http://www.timbres-barres-phosphorescentes.fr in general.
That's something for the looooong winter evenings ...

-jmh

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12 Feb 2021
09:09:53am
re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

Thanks jmh, I'll check those sites out later.
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The only link that went anywhere for me was the wiki one.
Edit ok got the second one to work by cutting url off after the first fr

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jmh67

13 Feb 2021
04:45:25am
re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

Links corrected. Sausage finger syndrome ;-)

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10 Feb 2021
07:18:56pm

Going through a bag full of these and notice some have phosphor bands, some visible without UV some with. (one and two bands)
Have looked in Scott but no mention of phosphor lines, web search turned up a couple of sites but again no mention. Although one site did state no phosphor.
Does anyone know if there is a list that will confirm which have bands? I have yet to soak most of these and would like to presort to an extent.

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jmh67

11 Feb 2021
04:48:21am

re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

As far as I remember, the lowest values of this series have no phosphor stripes at all, the medium ones up to the green "second class letter" values have one, all others have two. Pretty straightforward, but of course the boundary moved with the increase in postage prices. Hence you may e.g. find an old red (priority letter) 1.80 F stamp with two stripes and a newer green one with one. Any deviations from the rule would be less common varieties. Check colnect.com or the Yvert catalog for details.

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sheepshanks

11 Feb 2021
08:55:37am

re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

Thanks Martin for the information, I guess I'll get a feel for them when I have enough soaked and dried.
I did notice that out of the whole bagful there was not a single coil stamp, so presume that the kiloware this lot came from did not have any business users contributing.
Will be looking for the coil stamps in used condition if anybody has them.

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jmh67

12 Feb 2021
01:33:42am

re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

I'm not sure, but I think I have seen vending machines for coil stamps when I worked in France for a few months (it was during the Marianne du Bicenténaire epoch, however). Still, I guess, people being who they are, most preferred to buy their stamps at the counter. Anyway, there is also a lot of information to be found on https://www.wikitimbres.fr - in French, of course. And if you really want to dive in deep, check out http://www.timbres-barres-phosphorescentes.fr/V2_Partie2/V2_2454_Marianne_et_Types_de_barres_Liberte.html or http://www.timbres-barres-phosphorescentes.fr in general.
That's something for the looooong winter evenings ...

-jmh

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12 Feb 2021
09:09:53am

re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

Thanks jmh, I'll check those sites out later.
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The only link that went anywhere for me was the wiki one.
Edit ok got the second one to work by cutting url off after the first fr

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jmh67

13 Feb 2021
04:45:25am

re: France 1982 Liberty Definitives

Links corrected. Sausage finger syndrome ;-)

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