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Harvey

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26 Dec 2020
10:43:24am
My cut off for Ireland is 1955 so according to Scott's there were only 4 coils to pick up. I checked out an on line stamp site to pick one up, so I searched Ireland coils. I noticed a fair number of the early overprints were called coils. They didn't seem to be singled out in Scott's and seemed to have two opposite sides with cut perfs. I know some must be coils since one strip of four had a paper leader. They are not given separate values in Scott's but I'm wondering if the specialized catalogs give a value. Also I assume paste-up-strips must exist and probably are more valuable. I wonder if any Ireland expert could comment on these coils - identification and possible value.
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26 Dec 2020
05:42:36pm
re: coils for Ireland

The coils were the stamps overprinted by Harrison. They were sent to Harrison in England because none of the Irish printers had the experience to print on the coil format.

I don't have access to a Scott Catalogue, but I believe that they are Scott 19 - 22 and 59 - 62.

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Harvey

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26 Dec 2020
06:43:48pm
re: coils for Ireland

Thanks Clive! Once I knew which stamps to look at, thanks to you, the comments are there in Scott's. I actually have some of them but had no idea they were coils. There's not much that the people in SoR don't know. It's great to have easy contact with so many knowledgeable people - a group of experts indeed!!!

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Collecting King George VI from all countries, and King Edward VII and King George V from the West Indies.

27 Dec 2020
09:55:04am
re: coils for Ireland

Here are some additional coils that you might want to consider. But Scott 68b is very expensive.

From the 1922 Defintive Set - Watermarked Gaelic SE
Scott 68b 2d Grey-Green Perf 15 x Imperf
Scott 87 1d Carmine Perf 15 x Imperf
Scott 87a 1d Carmine Perf 15 x Imperf - Single Top Perf
Scott 91 1/2d Bright Green Imperf x Perf 14
Scott 92 2d Grey-Green Imperf x Perf 14

From the 1940 Defintive Set - Watermarked Gaelic E
Scott 105 1d Carmine Perf 14.75 x Imperf
Scott 105a 1d Carmine Perf 13.75 x Imperf

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Harvey

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27 Dec 2020
11:25:49am
re: coils for Ireland

Thanks Tom. I'm a new Ireland collector, only a few months now. I'll check out your suggestions.
Edit: I just checked Scott's and the only one I'm not familiar with is 64b and that's a bit out of my price rangeSad. I have a couple of the others and am interested in the rest, Have a great week and thanks for the help.

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Collecting King George VI from all countries, and King Edward VII and King George V from the West Indies.

27 Dec 2020
11:41:29am
re: coils for Ireland

Here are the watermark Gaelic SE stamps plus the coils. I am missing the rare 2d one also.
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27 Dec 2020
02:22:43pm

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The 2p green coil - only have used:

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27 Dec 2020
02:26:30pm

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Ireland also issued coils perfed on all sides. These were constructed using “paste up” joints. The gerl coils have different watermarks, but some coils are indistinguishable once separated. But the edge perfs sometimes can be a clue

PASTE UP JOINT
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27 Dec 2020
02:28:39pm

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Gerl multi design coil strips

See the perfs on the first stamp - squished and short on one side? When you see perfs like that that is probably a coil stamp.


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27 Dec 2020
02:30:43pm

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Used 1 p. Coil pairs

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Harvey

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27 Dec 2020
02:40:44pm
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I would love to run into an Ireland "paste up strip". The only example I have is Canadian and quite rare - it is a paste up strip of four containing two each of MR7 and MR7a, Scott's gives it the number MR7v for a strip of two. It's one of my best pieces and I look at it often. How many of you have a favourite stamp or two that you look at often? Most of us long time collectors have a favourite treasure or two. That strip, and a NS #4 and #3a (bisect) tied to a piece of cover are mine, what stamps do you look at often? It's not the value, it's the fact that you have something rare, maybe almost unique.

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27 Dec 2020
03:02:13pm

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Harvey - favorite items is a really fun, clever idea for a new thread. Love to see what folks treasure most! Please do start that thread!

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Harvey

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27 Dec 2020
03:46:45pm
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Done - just started!

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Harvey

I think, therefore I am - I think!

26 Dec 2020
10:43:24am

My cut off for Ireland is 1955 so according to Scott's there were only 4 coils to pick up. I checked out an on line stamp site to pick one up, so I searched Ireland coils. I noticed a fair number of the early overprints were called coils. They didn't seem to be singled out in Scott's and seemed to have two opposite sides with cut perfs. I know some must be coils since one strip of four had a paper leader. They are not given separate values in Scott's but I'm wondering if the specialized catalogs give a value. Also I assume paste-up-strips must exist and probably are more valuable. I wonder if any Ireland expert could comment on these coils - identification and possible value.

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26 Dec 2020
05:42:36pm

re: coils for Ireland

The coils were the stamps overprinted by Harrison. They were sent to Harrison in England because none of the Irish printers had the experience to print on the coil format.

I don't have access to a Scott Catalogue, but I believe that they are Scott 19 - 22 and 59 - 62.

Clive



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Harvey

I think, therefore I am - I think!

26 Dec 2020
06:43:48pm

re: coils for Ireland

Thanks Clive! Once I knew which stamps to look at, thanks to you, the comments are there in Scott's. I actually have some of them but had no idea they were coils. There's not much that the people in SoR don't know. It's great to have easy contact with so many knowledgeable people - a group of experts indeed!!!

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"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good, too. Yogiism"

Collecting King George VI from all countries, and King Edward VII and King George V from the West Indies.
27 Dec 2020
09:55:04am

re: coils for Ireland

Here are some additional coils that you might want to consider. But Scott 68b is very expensive.

From the 1922 Defintive Set - Watermarked Gaelic SE
Scott 68b 2d Grey-Green Perf 15 x Imperf
Scott 87 1d Carmine Perf 15 x Imperf
Scott 87a 1d Carmine Perf 15 x Imperf - Single Top Perf
Scott 91 1/2d Bright Green Imperf x Perf 14
Scott 92 2d Grey-Green Imperf x Perf 14

From the 1940 Defintive Set - Watermarked Gaelic E
Scott 105 1d Carmine Perf 14.75 x Imperf
Scott 105a 1d Carmine Perf 13.75 x Imperf

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Harvey

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27 Dec 2020
11:25:49am

re: coils for Ireland

Thanks Tom. I'm a new Ireland collector, only a few months now. I'll check out your suggestions.
Edit: I just checked Scott's and the only one I'm not familiar with is 64b and that's a bit out of my price rangeSad. I have a couple of the others and am interested in the rest, Have a great week and thanks for the help.

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Collecting King George VI from all countries, and King Edward VII and King George V from the West Indies.
27 Dec 2020
11:41:29am

re: coils for Ireland

Here are the watermark Gaelic SE stamps plus the coils. I am missing the rare 2d one also.
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philatelia

APS #156650
27 Dec 2020
02:22:43pm

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re: coils for Ireland

The 2p green coil - only have used:

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philatelia

APS #156650
27 Dec 2020
02:26:30pm

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re: coils for Ireland

Ireland also issued coils perfed on all sides. These were constructed using “paste up” joints. The gerl coils have different watermarks, but some coils are indistinguishable once separated. But the edge perfs sometimes can be a clue

PASTE UP JOINT
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Front of paste up coil strip


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philatelia

APS #156650
27 Dec 2020
02:28:39pm

Approvals

re: coils for Ireland

Gerl multi design coil strips

See the perfs on the first stamp - squished and short on one side? When you see perfs like that that is probably a coil stamp.


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APS #156650
27 Dec 2020
02:30:43pm

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Used 1 p. Coil pairs

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Harvey

I think, therefore I am - I think!

27 Dec 2020
02:40:44pm

re: coils for Ireland

I would love to run into an Ireland "paste up strip". The only example I have is Canadian and quite rare - it is a paste up strip of four containing two each of MR7 and MR7a, Scott's gives it the number MR7v for a strip of two. It's one of my best pieces and I look at it often. How many of you have a favourite stamp or two that you look at often? Most of us long time collectors have a favourite treasure or two. That strip, and a NS #4 and #3a (bisect) tied to a piece of cover are mine, what stamps do you look at often? It's not the value, it's the fact that you have something rare, maybe almost unique.

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APS #156650
27 Dec 2020
03:02:13pm

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re: coils for Ireland

Harvey - favorite items is a really fun, clever idea for a new thread. Love to see what folks treasure most! Please do start that thread!

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Harvey

I think, therefore I am - I think!

27 Dec 2020
03:46:45pm

re: coils for Ireland

Done - just started!

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