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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

 

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stampbaby
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20 Dec 2020
04:32:23pm

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I have been unable to classify/catalog this Philippines Stamp, which, without the over-print (O.P.), is Scott's Catalog #76 (1880-86). At first, I thought the oval O.P. may be a postmark. However, if one looks closely at bottom perforation you will see the top of the O.P. for the next stamp that was attached toImage Not Found the sheet. The stamp is also mint with old gum on reverse. Any identification help will be much appreciated.

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nigelc
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20 Dec 2020
04:50:54pm
re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

Hi,

The stamp has been surcharged to convert it for use as a revenue stamp.

It's listed in the old 1915 Forbin catalogue.

It's listed under the heading "Recargo de Consumos" which I guess may be a sales tax.

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20 Dec 2020
04:58:03pm
re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

I see SG lists it as an 1889 postage stamp so I guess it was authorised for postal use even after getting this revenue surcharge.

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20 Dec 2020
06:53:51pm
re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

I think it is a telegraph stamp. I have the same stamp in blue and a denomination of 3, I have it labeled as a telegraph stamp - no memory of why, but I must have had a good reason!

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jillcrow

22 Dec 2020
02:15:17am
re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

There is a paragraph on this site below, suggesting that this cancel was fiscal rather than for Telegraph (about a third the way down):

https://gb-precancels.org/Telegraphs/World/Filip.html

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22 Dec 2020
05:44:48am
re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

The note in jillcrow's link refers to similar surcharges on telegraph stamps, stamps with basically the same design but with TELEGRAFOS at the top rather than FILIPINAS.

This note and most of the listing in the link have been copied from the old Hiscocks catalogue.

Some of these telegraph stamps went through the same cycle of being surcharged for use as revenue stamps when there was a shortage and then subsequently being authorised for use once again as telegraph stamps.

It would be great if we could see Harvey's stamp to see how it fits in with all this. Happy



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20 Dec 2020
04:32:23pm

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I have been unable to classify/catalog this Philippines Stamp, which, without the over-print (O.P.), is Scott's Catalog #76 (1880-86). At first, I thought the oval O.P. may be a postmark. However, if one looks closely at bottom perforation you will see the top of the O.P. for the next stamp that was attached toImage Not Found the sheet. The stamp is also mint with old gum on reverse. Any identification help will be much appreciated.

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nigelc

20 Dec 2020
04:50:54pm

re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

Hi,

The stamp has been surcharged to convert it for use as a revenue stamp.

It's listed in the old 1915 Forbin catalogue.

It's listed under the heading "Recargo de Consumos" which I guess may be a sales tax.

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nigelc

20 Dec 2020
04:58:03pm

re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

I see SG lists it as an 1889 postage stamp so I guess it was authorised for postal use even after getting this revenue surcharge.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
20 Dec 2020
06:53:51pm

re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

I think it is a telegraph stamp. I have the same stamp in blue and a denomination of 3, I have it labeled as a telegraph stamp - no memory of why, but I must have had a good reason!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
jillcrow

22 Dec 2020
02:15:17am

re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

There is a paragraph on this site below, suggesting that this cancel was fiscal rather than for Telegraph (about a third the way down):

https://gb-precancels.org/Telegraphs/World/Filip.html

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nigelc

22 Dec 2020
05:44:48am

re: Early Philippines Mystery Over-Print?

The note in jillcrow's link refers to similar surcharges on telegraph stamps, stamps with basically the same design but with TELEGRAFOS at the top rather than FILIPINAS.

This note and most of the listing in the link have been copied from the old Hiscocks catalogue.

Some of these telegraph stamps went through the same cycle of being surcharged for use as revenue stamps when there was a shortage and then subsequently being authorised for use once again as telegraph stamps.

It would be great if we could see Harvey's stamp to see how it fits in with all this. Happy



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