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Europe/Other : Request for help non-original stamp.

 

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josef57

06 Dec 2020
03:52:14am
Image Not FoundImage Not FoundGood morning A friend of mine seeing philatelist for many years, seeing this stamp told me that for him it is a well-known forger named Fournier, unknown to me, and that some of his stamps are worth more than the originals. what do you think and which are the ones that are most sought after by collectors ?.

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pigdoc

06 Dec 2020
08:39:23am
re: Request for help non-original stamp.

I often use this website as a quick reference for forged stamps:

Forged Stamps of Tuscany

It looks to me like the cancellation on the stamp is representative of Fournier's work.

I include many known forged stamps in my collection, just for reference. But, I wouldn't call myself a collector of forged stamps. I'm just an opportunist. I wouldn't pay more than $10. To me, a good quality image for reference is just as valuable.

-Paul


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josef57

06 Dec 2020
09:17:49am
re: Request for help non-original stamp.

I also think like her about it. I see how things are subjective, for example there are auction houses that these types of stamps are offered at quite reasonable figures. I don't understand why, perhaps because of my little experience anyway thanks.

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pigdoc

06 Dec 2020
09:53:19am
re: Request for help non-original stamp.

Here's a forgery I recently passed on:

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A "Clara Rothe" private packet post stamp. The genuine stamps were printed, but not issued as the packet company ceased operations prematurely. This one is an easy call as a forgery. It's the wrong color, for starters. And the quality of the printing is vastly inferior to the genuine stamps.

Very tempting, because the 'cancellation' looks like a manuscript "19" which would probably have been a French marking. Makes me think the stamp possibly could have actually been used, that is, passed off as genuine to the contemporary postal authority. On the other hand, it would have been very uncommon for such a manuscript marking to impinge on the stamp.

But alas, it sold for $14.28 on a proxy bid put in an hour before the listing ended. I put a bid of $11.66 on it, which was too low to win it, but high enough for me. I'll save my money for a real one!

-Paul

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josef57

06 Dec 2020
10:40:36am
re: Request for help non-original stamp.

Great. It shows how the high price is always the original. Unfortunately not everyone thinks so, on the other hand everyone does what they want with their money. Even through some catalogs I see that they are busy promoting this kind of stamps. Anyway congratulations for the competence in the matter.

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josef57

06 Dec 2020
03:52:14am

Image Not FoundImage Not FoundGood morning A friend of mine seeing philatelist for many years, seeing this stamp told me that for him it is a well-known forger named Fournier, unknown to me, and that some of his stamps are worth more than the originals. what do you think and which are the ones that are most sought after by collectors ?.

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pigdoc

06 Dec 2020
08:39:23am

re: Request for help non-original stamp.

I often use this website as a quick reference for forged stamps:

Forged Stamps of Tuscany

It looks to me like the cancellation on the stamp is representative of Fournier's work.

I include many known forged stamps in my collection, just for reference. But, I wouldn't call myself a collector of forged stamps. I'm just an opportunist. I wouldn't pay more than $10. To me, a good quality image for reference is just as valuable.

-Paul


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josef57

06 Dec 2020
09:17:49am

re: Request for help non-original stamp.

I also think like her about it. I see how things are subjective, for example there are auction houses that these types of stamps are offered at quite reasonable figures. I don't understand why, perhaps because of my little experience anyway thanks.

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pigdoc

06 Dec 2020
09:53:19am

re: Request for help non-original stamp.

Here's a forgery I recently passed on:

Image Not Found

A "Clara Rothe" private packet post stamp. The genuine stamps were printed, but not issued as the packet company ceased operations prematurely. This one is an easy call as a forgery. It's the wrong color, for starters. And the quality of the printing is vastly inferior to the genuine stamps.

Very tempting, because the 'cancellation' looks like a manuscript "19" which would probably have been a French marking. Makes me think the stamp possibly could have actually been used, that is, passed off as genuine to the contemporary postal authority. On the other hand, it would have been very uncommon for such a manuscript marking to impinge on the stamp.

But alas, it sold for $14.28 on a proxy bid put in an hour before the listing ended. I put a bid of $11.66 on it, which was too low to win it, but high enough for me. I'll save my money for a real one!

-Paul

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josef57

06 Dec 2020
10:40:36am

re: Request for help non-original stamp.

Great. It shows how the high price is always the original. Unfortunately not everyone thinks so, on the other hand everyone does what they want with their money. Even through some catalogs I see that they are busy promoting this kind of stamps. Anyway congratulations for the competence in the matter.

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