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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Where to look for?

 

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virgilp

22 Nov 2020
07:22:46pm
These are some overprinted Hungarian stamps. Are they listed somewhere?
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22 Nov 2020
07:33:40pm
re: Where to look for?

Nagyszeben 1919 / 31 different stamps

A search on the internet produced a paragraph that includes the following: "Some examples of municipalities that are included in the category of locals issues are: Zombor, Ada, Nagyszeben, Kluj, Pancsova, Perlak, Baranya III, Skalica, Lajtabansag (Western Hungary) and several others" Since your stamps are postmarked Pancsova and Nagyszeben, 1923-4, I'm guessing that the overprints could be local only. Both the overprint and the dates indicated that these are stamps of the royal restoration, i.e., the regime of Miklos Horthy.

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virgilp

22 Nov 2020
10:59:29pm
re: Where to look for?

Part of Transylvania was constantly a problem for Romania and Hungary. Two wars and dictators created a world of hate and pieces of land moving back and forth! Recently one overprinted stamp from Hungary by Romanian authorities in 1945, made a nice debate on this site.
Seems that Hungary did the same thing on Hungarian stamps, making another nightmare with local issues.
Ok, I am waiting patiently to get more inputs on these stamps. Virgil

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Benque

23 Nov 2020
02:59:12am
re: Where to look for?

Sounds like a very interesting area to specialize in. I have no idea of the prices one would expect to pay, but the historical aspect sounds fascinating.

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gerom

23 Nov 2020
08:19:04am
re: Where to look for?

Hello Virgil,
Salutari din Romania,
Overprint represents the coat of arms of the Romanian Royalty (NIHIL SINE DEO = Nothing without God).
Find information on "romaniastamps / forg / forgeframe.htm"
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virgilp

23 Nov 2020
10:52:19am
re: Where to look for?

Hi George,
Thank you for getting involved. Interesting piece, I missed it!
Interesting is that the overprint is shown in Michel, but nothing else. No stamps are shown.
Thank you for the discussion.

To Benque. As I mentioned before, Romanian and Hungarian stamps from 1916 till 1945 can foolish an uneducated buyer. To get involved there is a need of deep knowledge, a lot of real stamps for comparison, time and patience and money. Some stamps are not easy accessible, they are part of serious collections.
Virgil

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virgilp

22 Nov 2020
07:22:46pm

These are some overprinted Hungarian stamps. Are they listed somewhere?
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psgStamper

22 Nov 2020
07:33:40pm

re: Where to look for?

Nagyszeben 1919 / 31 different stamps

A search on the internet produced a paragraph that includes the following: "Some examples of municipalities that are included in the category of locals issues are: Zombor, Ada, Nagyszeben, Kluj, Pancsova, Perlak, Baranya III, Skalica, Lajtabansag (Western Hungary) and several others" Since your stamps are postmarked Pancsova and Nagyszeben, 1923-4, I'm guessing that the overprints could be local only. Both the overprint and the dates indicated that these are stamps of the royal restoration, i.e., the regime of Miklos Horthy.

Paul

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virgilp

22 Nov 2020
10:59:29pm

re: Where to look for?

Part of Transylvania was constantly a problem for Romania and Hungary. Two wars and dictators created a world of hate and pieces of land moving back and forth! Recently one overprinted stamp from Hungary by Romanian authorities in 1945, made a nice debate on this site.
Seems that Hungary did the same thing on Hungarian stamps, making another nightmare with local issues.
Ok, I am waiting patiently to get more inputs on these stamps. Virgil

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Benque

23 Nov 2020
02:59:12am

re: Where to look for?

Sounds like a very interesting area to specialize in. I have no idea of the prices one would expect to pay, but the historical aspect sounds fascinating.

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gerom

23 Nov 2020
08:19:04am

re: Where to look for?

Hello Virgil,
Salutari din Romania,
Overprint represents the coat of arms of the Romanian Royalty (NIHIL SINE DEO = Nothing without God).
Find information on "romaniastamps / forg / forgeframe.htm"
Image Not Found

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virgilp

23 Nov 2020
10:52:19am

re: Where to look for?

Hi George,
Thank you for getting involved. Interesting piece, I missed it!
Interesting is that the overprint is shown in Michel, but nothing else. No stamps are shown.
Thank you for the discussion.

To Benque. As I mentioned before, Romanian and Hungarian stamps from 1916 till 1945 can foolish an uneducated buyer. To get involved there is a need of deep knowledge, a lot of real stamps for comparison, time and patience and money. Some stamps are not easy accessible, they are part of serious collections.
Virgil

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