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25 Oct 2020
09:38:00am
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This is a Bulgaria SC B3. Not really up to speed on Bulgaria so I don't really know if these inverted surcharges are fairly common or fairly rare. Not sure of a value on something like this either. Any guidance would be much appreciated!

Art
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nigelc
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25 Oct 2020
02:26:23pm
re: Bulgaria

Hi Art,

SG doesn't list this variety but Michel mentions it.

In my very old 1998 Michel Ost catalogue the normal stamp is priced at 25 pf mint or used and this inverted surcharge is priced at 120 marks.

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Harvey

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25 Oct 2020
02:41:11pm
re: Bulgaria

I remember having a Romanian inverted overprint and sending SOR a picture - everyone assumed it was a fake! Are you "guys" being nice to Art? Angry Big Grin

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25 Oct 2020
04:47:11pm
re: Bulgaria

Nigel: I have a 2012-2013 Michel, and was going to look up a (slightly) more current price, but I wasn't confident in my determination of the Michel number.

If you could provide that, and also provide how the inverted overprint is listed (specific catalog number, footnote, etc), I'll take another stab at it for the original poster. Thanks!

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26 Oct 2020
12:25:41am
re: Bulgaria

"Nigel: I have a 2012-2013 Michel, and was going to look up a (slightly) more current price, but I wasn't confident in my determination of the Michel number.

If you could provide that, and also provide how the inverted overprint is listed (specific catalog number, footnote, etc), I'll take another stab at it for the original poster. Thanks!"



The basic stamp with the surcharge is Mi 137 "5 a. 10 St. rot" (5 on 10 stotinki red).

The variety is shown inline in parentheses as (V 120.-) where "V" is actually an inverted "A" with an arrow through the centre.

This "A plus arrow" is Michel's symbol for overprint (Ausdruck).


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26 Oct 2020
12:34:52am
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Another approach Michel take sometimes when giving an inverted overprint a full listing is to use the letter K as a suffix to the main catalogue number.

If they did that here you might see an entry with the number Mi 137 K

"K" here stands for "Kopfstehender" (basically: standing on its head).

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26 Oct 2020
02:18:54pm
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Thanks very much for the info, Nigel!

As best I can tell, I don't think they have a listing for the inverted overprint anymore? -- only for the imperf and/or the blue overprint.

Here's the listing from the 2012/2013 Southeast Europe ("Sudosteuropa"):

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If true, this would be yet another good argument for hanging on to old editions of catalogs!

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26 Oct 2020
04:08:48pm
re: Bulgaria

Wow! Thanks for the education! I know that many times, Scott will caution you to beware of forgeries. I didn't see anything like that. Are these stamps frequently forged? And just out of curiosities sake, why would the listing or mention be dropped?

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25 Oct 2020
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This is a Bulgaria SC B3. Not really up to speed on Bulgaria so I don't really know if these inverted surcharges are fairly common or fairly rare. Not sure of a value on something like this either. Any guidance would be much appreciated!

Art

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25 Oct 2020
02:26:23pm

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Hi Art,

SG doesn't list this variety but Michel mentions it.

In my very old 1998 Michel Ost catalogue the normal stamp is priced at 25 pf mint or used and this inverted surcharge is priced at 120 marks.

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Harvey

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25 Oct 2020
02:41:11pm

re: Bulgaria

I remember having a Romanian inverted overprint and sending SOR a picture - everyone assumed it was a fake! Are you "guys" being nice to Art? Angry Big Grin

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25 Oct 2020
04:47:11pm

re: Bulgaria

Nigel: I have a 2012-2013 Michel, and was going to look up a (slightly) more current price, but I wasn't confident in my determination of the Michel number.

If you could provide that, and also provide how the inverted overprint is listed (specific catalog number, footnote, etc), I'll take another stab at it for the original poster. Thanks!

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nigelc

26 Oct 2020
12:25:41am

re: Bulgaria

"Nigel: I have a 2012-2013 Michel, and was going to look up a (slightly) more current price, but I wasn't confident in my determination of the Michel number.

If you could provide that, and also provide how the inverted overprint is listed (specific catalog number, footnote, etc), I'll take another stab at it for the original poster. Thanks!"



The basic stamp with the surcharge is Mi 137 "5 a. 10 St. rot" (5 on 10 stotinki red).

The variety is shown inline in parentheses as (V 120.-) where "V" is actually an inverted "A" with an arrow through the centre.

This "A plus arrow" is Michel's symbol for overprint (Ausdruck).


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nigelc

26 Oct 2020
12:34:52am

re: Bulgaria

Another approach Michel take sometimes when giving an inverted overprint a full listing is to use the letter K as a suffix to the main catalogue number.

If they did that here you might see an entry with the number Mi 137 K

"K" here stands for "Kopfstehender" (basically: standing on its head).

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26 Oct 2020
02:18:54pm

re: Bulgaria

Thanks very much for the info, Nigel!

As best I can tell, I don't think they have a listing for the inverted overprint anymore? -- only for the imperf and/or the blue overprint.

Here's the listing from the 2012/2013 Southeast Europe ("Sudosteuropa"):

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If true, this would be yet another good argument for hanging on to old editions of catalogs!

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"You gotta put down the duckie if you wanna play the saxophone. (Hoots the Owl -- Sesame Street)"

www.hipstamp.com/sto ...
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upsguy62

26 Oct 2020
04:08:48pm

re: Bulgaria

Wow! Thanks for the education! I know that many times, Scott will caution you to beware of forgeries. I didn't see anything like that. Are these stamps frequently forged? And just out of curiosities sake, why would the listing or mention be dropped?

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