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Typically means 'Circular Date' cancel.
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12:07:38pm
If you "google" this it says that CD cancel (circular date) is the same as "Bullseye cancel". I associate bullseye with multiple concentric circles, not usually with the date inside. Does anyone have an opinion?
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Hi Harvey,
I'm used to a "CDS" cancellation being a Circular Date Stamp so a stamp with a CDS has part or all of one of these postmarks.
On the other hand a "bullseye" cancellation is one that is more or less centred on the stamp.
Usually the bullseye is a CDS but it could be any small postmark that is centred on the stamp.
A bullseye postmark would then be equivalent to a "SON" (socked on the nose) postmark.
Yes, I have seen postmarks from New York etc. with concentric circles described as "bullseye" or "target" postmarks so I guess it depends what you collect and what terminology you prefer.
Of course others may well use quite different definitions. 
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On French stamps, Y & T refers to them as "cachet a date", and they come in several varieties. I was not familiar with the cd abbreviated notation before. 
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i normally see CDS as well, for Circular Date Stamp, which refers to strike from a device
SON refers to the placement of a strike on the stamp, and usually requires, at a minimum, that the location and full date be visible and fairly well centered on the stamp.
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I learned something today. I always assumed a bullseye cancellation was the cancellation made up of concentric circles, usually not containing a date. I really didn't think it was the same as a "socked on the nose" cancellation. I even Googled "bullseye cancellation" to make sure and I was definitely out to lunch (again!!).
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"I always assumed a bullseye cancellation was the cancellation made up of concentric circles, usually not containing a date."
Harvey I'm with you on this.
That is what I was taught back in the day when Noah was a boy!!
A cds cancel has the date in the middle.
Its just another example of non standardisation of philatelic terms throughout the world and as a Brit the rest of the world should follow us and stop mucking around with their own interpretations..
Well we Brits did invent the adhesive postage stamp!!
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Ian said "Well the Brits did invent the adhesive postage stamp".
I say that we are now "stuck with it"! 
So, we stick with the adhesive stamp! 
Enjoy our hobby and all stick together!
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My description of the cancel on this cut square would be SOTN (Socked on the Nose) four-ring bullseye. A tiny fraction of the circular date stamp (CDS) is visible at the left edge of the cut square.
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On many stamps in a recent APS approval book, individual stamps are noted as having "c d cancel" These used stamps clearly are not CTO cancelations but instead have a variety of different city cancelations. They are all from French colony stamps. What is this notation?
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re: "c d cancel" meaning
Typically means 'Circular Date' cancel.
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20 Oct 2020
12:07:38pm
re: "c d cancel" meaning
If you "google" this it says that CD cancel (circular date) is the same as "Bullseye cancel". I associate bullseye with multiple concentric circles, not usually with the date inside. Does anyone have an opinion?
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re: "c d cancel" meaning
Hi Harvey,
I'm used to a "CDS" cancellation being a Circular Date Stamp so a stamp with a CDS has part or all of one of these postmarks.
On the other hand a "bullseye" cancellation is one that is more or less centred on the stamp.
Usually the bullseye is a CDS but it could be any small postmark that is centred on the stamp.
A bullseye postmark would then be equivalent to a "SON" (socked on the nose) postmark.
Yes, I have seen postmarks from New York etc. with concentric circles described as "bullseye" or "target" postmarks so I guess it depends what you collect and what terminology you prefer.
Of course others may well use quite different definitions.
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re: "c d cancel" meaning
On French stamps, Y & T refers to them as "cachet a date", and they come in several varieties. I was not familiar with the cd abbreviated notation before.
rrr...
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re: "c d cancel" meaning
i normally see CDS as well, for Circular Date Stamp, which refers to strike from a device
SON refers to the placement of a strike on the stamp, and usually requires, at a minimum, that the location and full date be visible and fairly well centered on the stamp.
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20 Oct 2020
03:17:59pm
re: "c d cancel" meaning
I learned something today. I always assumed a bullseye cancellation was the cancellation made up of concentric circles, usually not containing a date. I really didn't think it was the same as a "socked on the nose" cancellation. I even Googled "bullseye cancellation" to make sure and I was definitely out to lunch (again!!).
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re: "c d cancel" meaning
"I always assumed a bullseye cancellation was the cancellation made up of concentric circles, usually not containing a date."
Harvey I'm with you on this.
That is what I was taught back in the day when Noah was a boy!!
A cds cancel has the date in the middle.
Its just another example of non standardisation of philatelic terms throughout the world and as a Brit the rest of the world should follow us and stop mucking around with their own interpretations..
Well we Brits did invent the adhesive postage stamp!!
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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
20 Oct 2020
04:40:59pm
re: "c d cancel" meaning
Ian said "Well the Brits did invent the adhesive postage stamp".
I say that we are now "stuck with it"!
So, we stick with the adhesive stamp!
Enjoy our hobby and all stick together!
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re: "c d cancel" meaning
My description of the cancel on this cut square would be SOTN (Socked on the Nose) four-ring bullseye. A tiny fraction of the circular date stamp (CDS) is visible at the left edge of the cut square.
Tom
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