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Europe/Great Britain : 1st red Machin M14L

 

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Stampnut1953

01 Sep 2020
10:28:09pm
I was going through some of my duplicate Machins and came up with an oddity. At least I think it is odd. The security code is MT1L. Above the security code appears to be a repeat of the security code but only the 'MT' is visible. Probably a counterfeit??

Any one else experience one of these?
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PeatedMike
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02 Sep 2020
01:34:29am
re: 1st red Machin M14L

Any chance you can post a photo of this that picks up the coding you have described? It would be interesting to see.

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02 Sep 2020
10:05:48am
re: 1st red Machin M14L

MOUNT PLEASANT f Image Not Found

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02 Sep 2020
03:38:45pm
re: 1st red Machin M14L

On all the security Machins the letters above the source code is the repeat of the the letters MA, part of the repeated word MAIL that appears in the background all over the stamp. This is in the top right corner.
Are you sure that yours says MT?

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Stampnut1953

02 Sep 2020
05:57:50pm
re: 1st red Machin M14L

I double checked the stamp and then looked at several copies of the same stamp. The letters above the security code should be 'MA' but mine shows 'MT'. Right at this time I am unable to scan the stamp. As soon as I am able to scan the stamp I will post it on this thread.
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02 Sep 2020
06:17:30pm
re: 1st red Machin M14L

Here is a not very good example of a copy of this one. You can only see part of the A above the MTIL.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

03 Sep 2020
07:06:20am
re: 1st red Machin M14L

Several times late at night I thought I found some very
interesting variation of the security codes or some other
significant "tells." Upon re-examining the stamp the next
morning, or a few days later, I would look at my notes and
then at the stamp and wonder what I was thinking. That has
happened more often as my vision has been faltering.
In the enlarged scan shown, the "MTIL" is there, but I can't
see a second "MT" despite the enlargement.
You will have to rely on some member with sharper vision for
a definitive answer.

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03 Sep 2020
08:57:12am
re: 1st red Machin M14L

Charlie the scan is of one of my stamps, not the op's. We are awaiting that with baited breath. The images that Phos put up are not clear enough to see the background printing but I think they refer to a forgery. Not able to find anything specific but the Norvic website does illustrate a few just not the particular one in question.

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03 Sep 2020
01:22:07pm
re: 1st red Machin M14L

" .... the scan is of one of my stamps, not the op's ...."


You do not know how much better that makes me feel.
Maybe a little silly, but still better over all.

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07 Sep 2020
09:21:12am
re: 1st red Machin M14L

Bump, do we have an image yet?

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Stampnut1953

01 Sep 2020
10:28:09pm

I was going through some of my duplicate Machins and came up with an oddity. At least I think it is odd. The security code is MT1L. Above the security code appears to be a repeat of the security code but only the 'MT' is visible. Probably a counterfeit??

Any one else experience one of these?
Stampnut1953

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PeatedMike

02 Sep 2020
01:34:29am

re: 1st red Machin M14L

Any chance you can post a photo of this that picks up the coding you have described? It would be interesting to see.

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phos45

02 Sep 2020
10:05:48am

re: 1st red Machin M14L

MOUNT PLEASANT f Image Not Found

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sheepshanks

02 Sep 2020
03:38:45pm

re: 1st red Machin M14L

On all the security Machins the letters above the source code is the repeat of the the letters MA, part of the repeated word MAIL that appears in the background all over the stamp. This is in the top right corner.
Are you sure that yours says MT?

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Stampnut1953

02 Sep 2020
05:57:50pm

re: 1st red Machin M14L

I double checked the stamp and then looked at several copies of the same stamp. The letters above the security code should be 'MA' but mine shows 'MT'. Right at this time I am unable to scan the stamp. As soon as I am able to scan the stamp I will post it on this thread.
Stampnut1953

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sheepshanks

02 Sep 2020
06:17:30pm

re: 1st red Machin M14L

Here is a not very good example of a copy of this one. You can only see part of the A above the MTIL.
Image Not Found
Edit to show better image.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
03 Sep 2020
07:06:20am

re: 1st red Machin M14L

Several times late at night I thought I found some very
interesting variation of the security codes or some other
significant "tells." Upon re-examining the stamp the next
morning, or a few days later, I would look at my notes and
then at the stamp and wonder what I was thinking. That has
happened more often as my vision has been faltering.
In the enlarged scan shown, the "MTIL" is there, but I can't
see a second "MT" despite the enlargement.
You will have to rely on some member with sharper vision for
a definitive answer.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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sheepshanks

03 Sep 2020
08:57:12am

re: 1st red Machin M14L

Charlie the scan is of one of my stamps, not the op's. We are awaiting that with baited breath. The images that Phos put up are not clear enough to see the background printing but I think they refer to a forgery. Not able to find anything specific but the Norvic website does illustrate a few just not the particular one in question.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
03 Sep 2020
01:22:07pm

re: 1st red Machin M14L

" .... the scan is of one of my stamps, not the op's ...."


You do not know how much better that makes me feel.
Maybe a little silly, but still better over all.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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sheepshanks

07 Sep 2020
09:21:12am

re: 1st red Machin M14L

Bump, do we have an image yet?

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